Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[ReaperCharlie]

I actually just read the first few posts of the thread again, and I am now 99% positive that there are two cults. No more, no less.

It's funny, I checked; NOWHERE in the OP does it say that there ONLY two brothers... EXCEPT in the sample Bruno role PM. It says there are two. So there are at MOST two.
But by looking again at the sample "power role" role PM, it says that you are A godfather, and not THE godfather. So there are at LEAST two godfathers.

Unless Flay is deliberately trying to screw with us. Which it seems like he might be...

[Flameaxe]

Vote: Robo

. If it wasn't clear yesterday, I wasn't too hot on the whole "I reread, and HAMMAH, nothing else" chain of events at the end of day two. If you've read the game, I can only assume you suspect more than just the late Faraday. You must have something else worthwhile to say, or could have said during the end of the day.

Gurgi: Don't think I've forgotten about you, I'd still love to see more out of you, and your sudden hammer without anything else didn't help any read of mine I had.

[ReaperCharlie]

But why roleblock a roleblocker (i.e me) that had declared that they were going to RB either M=W or xvart?

Possible to allow a kill through from declared target?

So we can probably assume that the scum have successfully recruited one or more roleblockers already.

Unless they recruited YOU.

This post rubs me the wrong way. TOTALLY rubs me the wrong way.

It would totally make sense to recruit Andrius, and with 2 cults x 2 nights since his claim so far, that's 4 chances to recruit him.

I'm pretty dang sure he'd have been (and

has

been) recruited by now. Same with Yos2.

And the fact that Andrius hasn't revealed his results yet is shifty too.

[ReaperCharlie]

Target please .

Why would you ask for this?

This is getting ridiculous now.

vote ooba

Not surprised Chrono got blocked. He wasn't really town, so town rb-er would want to block him, yet scum roleblocker would want to block a potential bad power role, especially if your targetting his team mate.

poro? wtf?

As much as I want ooba dead, I totally agree.

What reason is there for Andrius not to have shared his results?

Let me rephrase: what TOWN reason?

[ReaperCharlie]

Dam# it. Now I'm totally torn between ooba, Yos2, Andy.

I am NOT down for a Robo wagon one bit.

The lynch target today should be NOBODY other than ooba, Yos2, or Andy.

When it comes down to it, probably Yos2 or Andy.

[Flameaxe]

@Charlie:

It would totally make sense to recruit Andrius, and with 2 cults x 2 nights since his claim so far, that's 4 chances to recruit him.

I'm pretty dang sure he'd have been (and has been) recruited by now. Same with Yos2.

I take it the whole "lets try to lynch recruiters ASAP" idea isn't a priority for you then?

[singersigner]

Hey guys, it's another home game, which means I'm pretty

V/LA though Sunday night

. My first instinct is to say that Ooba was probably recruited last night, but it makes sense that Andrius would've been by now, too.

[Andrius]

Yeah, great logic there RC.
Because I MUST have been recruited by now.
I investigated Lord Gurgi, who was town as of the NAR of me investigating him. So he is just lazy-ass town. No offense to Gurgi.

Oh well.
RC, WHY ARE YOU SO ADAMANT ON 2 CULTS? THERE IS CLEARLY ONLY ONE, BY M=W'S FLIP.

[ReaperCharlie]

I actually just read the first few posts of the thread again, and I am now 99% positive that there are two cults. No more, no less.

It's funny, I checked; NOWHERE in the OP does it say that there ONLY two brothers... EXCEPT in the sample Bruno role PM. It says there are two. So there are at MOST two.
But by looking again at the sample "power role" role PM, it says that you are A godfather, and not THE godfather. So there are at LEAST two godfathers.

Unless Flay is deliberately trying to screw with us. Which it seems like he might be...

lrn2read Andrius

[xvart]

Also, and this is going to sound really tinfoil-hatted, but is it possible that the whole Seraphim-replacing-out thing happened because he got recruited by vezok N0?

Ohhhh. This actually makes more sense then what I was saying yesterday about Me=Weird being the recruiter, coupled with what Reaper said about Seraphim's feelings towards cults.

Aim: Robo

Dam# it. Now I'm totally torn between ooba, Yos2, Andy.

I am NOT down for a Robo wagon one bit.

The lynch target today should be NOBODY other than ooba, Yos2, or Andy.

When it comes down to it, probably Yos2 or Andy.

Why would a cult recruit ooba last night? He has used up his loose canon ability (at least as he has described it), so he would only be an additional body. Why are we now killing recruits instead of the recruiter? This seems a 180 from the previous two days.

xvart.

[ReaperCharlie]

And besides, it didn't say Me=Weird had been recruited by the ONLY CULT. It said he'd been RECRUITED. And was purposefully nebulous.

It looks like Flay is trying to be tricksy, but there is enough evidence of two and only two cults if one is willing to PAY ATTENTION instead of ASSUME.

[ReaperCharlie]

ebwop: That was @ Andrius.

[Andrius]

Yeah, but they can both be godfathers in their own family. (Greek Mythology had 2 godfathers in a mini)
I can confirm that they're godfathers. Bad shit happens to me if I invesetigate them; aka, another way of postponing the demise of the 2-man scumteam.

So I'm still arguing for 1 scumteam.

vwith what Reaper said about Seraphim's feelings towards cults.

That might have been me, actually...


I'm really tempted to go along with the SpyreX-esque ballsy tinfoil gambit, but they haven't worked out so well in the past. XD

[Robocopter87]

DARNIT I FORGOT PLAYING WITH REAPER MEANS I HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHO THEY ARE REFERRING TO WHEN THE SAY RC.

I understand flameaxes reasoning against me but Inhims needs a little more work.

Please explain to me why you voted me.

PEDITX3
LEMME POST DARNIT

PEDIT AFTER MY PEDITX3
STOPIT!!!

[Andrius]

Aim: Robocopter87

I love your over-the-top ATE.

Seraphim, I will love you forever if this is true. <3

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, and this is going to sound really tinfoil-hatted, but is it possible that the whole Seraphim-replacing-out thing happened because he got recruited by vezok N0?

Ohhhh. This actually makes more sense then what I was saying yesterday about Me=Weird being the recruiter, coupled with what Reaper said about Seraphim's feelings towards cults.

Aim: Robo

Dam# it. Now I'm totally torn between ooba, Yos2, Andy.

I am NOT down for a Robo wagon one bit.

The lynch target today should be NOBODY other than ooba, Yos2, or Andy.

When it comes down to it, probably Yos2 or Andy.

Why would a cult recruit ooba last night? He has used up his loose canon ability (at least as he has described it), so he would only be an additional body. Why are we now killing recruits instead of the recruiter? This seems a 180 from the previous two days.

xvart.

Noooooo. You're not listening. I don't think ooba was recruited last night. I was voting him yesterday too. I think he's been scum for most of the whole time, if not THE whole time. For some reason in the back of my mind. Maybe it's cause of Star Wars mafia, but I can't help remembering that ooba is VERY good at using situational things to fool everyone. Go ISO him in Star Wars mafia and tell me if you can find his breadcrumbing of his fake claim. VERY effective. Could be the exact thing going on here.

And (call me paranoid), but it's entirely possible that the loose cannon thing was entirely by accident. In Werewolf Wisborg Asylum (Andrius and whoever else was in that game can back me up), Spyrex (who was a VT, but had been recruited) pulled COMPLETELY OUT OF HIS @$$ a fake claim (which he hadn't originally been given) of "Priest", which ENDED UP BEING A ROLE IN THE GAME. Not just breadcrumbing either. He flat out claimed it. When he was killed and flipped cult, I went under the assumption that he was originally a Priest but had been bitten by the werewolves. I about sh*t a brick when I found out that he was originally a VT and had completely fabricated the claim. It even fooled the ACTUAL Priest.

But yeah, I would still rather lynch ooba/yos/andrius than Robo. Andrius because he would now be a scum power role, Yos because Yos as scum is impossible to win against if you leave him alive, and ooba for the above.

I'm not AGAINST lynching Robo, because what you say above (especially based on what I said earlier about Seraphim hating cults and hating vezok) toooootally makes sense. But I still want to lynch the other three first.

[Robocopter87]

Aim: Robocopter87

I love your over-the-top ATE.

Seraphim, I will love you forever if this is true. <3

Talk to me bro, tell me your reasoning.

Yeah its not, Vezok was stupid and confused on the power his role had. Its not my fault he looked like an idiot.

Also,

I was wondering, why did a recruit die last night?
Like, if it was a scum kill, why did they kill each other?
If its a Vig kill of some sort, what happened to the Scum Kill?

[ReaperCharlie]

WAIT! I just realized what I just said, and it's

retarded

. I am

totally

down for a Robo lynch.

I wasn't connecting the vezok/robo dots, even though I WAS. LOOOOOOOL

[Andrius]

Last thing from me before I cram for an econ quiz I'll probably fail:

Anyone going to claim the kill on M=W?

[ReaperCharlie]

But FFS, don't run him up until we at least get some good discussion in for a few weeks. k g2g

[Robocopter87]

If Andrius is a recruit then he was not recruited last night but rather the previous nights.

[Yosarian2]

Target please .

Why would you ask for this?

This is getting ridiculous now.

vote ooba

I really don't get this, at all. Asking the claimed cop for his result is reasonable, and we still haven't actually gotten a response to the reasons we don't want to lynch ooba.

The night result is interesting. I'm not really sure if it implies one cult or two; Flay can be really trisky. If we are dealing with a case where both brothers started out on the same scum team, then I think it's possible Friend was a buddy of Me=Weird; he voted Serephem briefly, but then after the replacement request, declared him town:

holster

Seraphim (or Seraphim's slot I suppose) is town.

That being said, me=weird did vote for Friend for a while, so Friend probably isn't a lone recruiter or whatever; voting for your recruiter on day 1 seems unlikely.

Also, yeah; does anyone want to claim responsibility for the night kill?

[xvart]

But I was going to block M=W anyway.

Why?

Noooooo. You're not listening. I don't think ooba was recruited last night. I was voting him yesterday too. I think he's been scum for most of the whole time, if not THE whole time. For some reason in the back of my mind. Maybe it's cause of Star Wars mafia, but I can't help remembering that ooba is VERY good at using situational things to fool everyone. Go ISO him in Star Wars mafia and tell me if you can find his breadcrumbing of his fake claim. VERY effective. Could be the exact thing going on here.

And (call me paranoid), but it's entirely possible that the loose cannon thing was entirely by accident. In Werewolf Wisborg Asylum (Andrius and whoever else was in that game can back me up), Spyrex (who was a VT, but had been recruited) pulled COMPLETELY OUT OF HIS @$$ a fake claim (which he hadn't originally been given) of "Priest", which ENDED UP BEING A ROLE IN THE GAME. Not just breadcrumbing either. He flat out claimed it. When he was killed and flipped cult, I went under the assumption that he was originally a Priest but had been bitten by the werewolves. I about sh*t a brick when I found out that he was originally a VT and had completely fabricated the claim. It even fooled the ACTUAL Priest.

I see what you're saying, but claiming priest and claiming loose canon are not exactly in the same sphere of plausibility. However, ooba did make the suggestion yesterday that the cult started with two people (or the recruiter was initially able to recruit one of some random power roles) so it is possible that he had access to the loose canon information prior to the start of day one (if what he was saying is true).

If Andrius is a recruit then he was not recruited last night but rather the previous nights.

So did you recruit him N0 or N1?

xvart.

[ReaperCharlie]

However, ooba did make the suggestion yesterday that the cult started with two people (or the recruiter was initially able to recruit one of some random power roles) so it is possible that he had access to the loose canon information prior to the start of day one (if what he was saying is true).

Be that as it may, I merely suggest that loose cannon would be an entirely believable fake claim for someone who already has a night kill, AND that it would explain ooba's absolutely terrible choice of killing zwetasldgkjasdr, especially when he was otherwise a poster boy for town and killing him was almost a vezok-caliber stupid, at least for a TOWN vig. For a scum vig (or a godfather), it would have been quite smart. I'm actually gonna go back and read zwet in iso again now.

If Andrius is a recruit then he was not recruited last night but rather the previous nights.

So did you recruit him N0 or N1?

Heh heh. Lovin your style, xvart.

[Robocopter87]

Xvarts question not appreciated.