Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd like to know what you are claiming, so that I can reference it as evidence later on in the game.

You're not going to be here later in the game.

Jenni I already explained my take on verdant based on how the term is actually used in the game. And no I'm not going to summarize anything AGAIN. One summary per topic is plenty. I know it's a long thread but honestly there's an iso feature if you need it.

Again, I love how cocky you are.

You are not town, simply because you say you are.

[Ythan]

You didn't prove Nayru is aquatic, you proved that she is connected to water and the Zora. Also you keep failing to comprehend that the claim was cobbled together out of bits and pieces already seen in the thread.

With illogical banter you will vaguely refer to but not cite.

I repeat myself because you keep saying the same moronic nonsense.

None of my arguments? Yeah okay.

It's a stupid and pointless question. I'm not going to answer it just to be nice to you, you're awful. But I like that it gives you the opportunity to add such obvious nonsense to your case.

[Ythan]

I'd like to know what you are claiming, so that I can reference it as evidence later on in the game.

You're not going to be here later in the game.

Jenni I already explained my take on verdant based on how the term is actually used in the game. And no I'm not going to summarize anything AGAIN. One summary per topic is plenty. I know it's a long thread but honestly there's an iso feature if you need it.

Again, I love how cocky you are.

You are not town, simply because you say you are.

But see it doesn't matter that you think that. People who know how to play, they clearly know what's up. You are not relevant.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Do you want me to go back and post every comment in which you say "You bumbling oaf" or "you moron"?

That's illogical meaningless banter.

I proved Nayru CAN be aquatic. Which is more than you have done on your end.

[Hinduragi]

Keyword: 'can'

Nayru may just not have an element at all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'd like to know what you are claiming, so that I can reference it as evidence later on in the game.

You're not going to be here later in the game.

Jenni I already explained my take on verdant based on how the term is actually used in the game. And no I'm not going to summarize anything AGAIN. One summary per topic is plenty. I know it's a long thread but honestly there's an iso feature if you need it.

Again, I love how cocky you are.

You are not town, simply because you say you are.

But see it doesn't matter that you think that. People who know how to play, they clearly know what's up. You are not relevant.

What is the point of this response?

How does this kind of post aid the town?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Keyword: 'can'

Nayru may just not have an element at all.

Personal belief, based upon your opinion of Cupcake's claim.

I think it's real enough. Ythan believes other wise. Arguing this has become pointless.

[jenniwren]

Your link showed the word "verdant" used to describe the flourishing geography of Hyrule in the Zelda game. Obviously the words "verdant" and non-verdant" are not distinctions in the actual video game, but Dram and Reck wrote a PM to Zwet specifically describing him as Non-Verdant and told him that people who are of verdant races will not die specifically because they target him, meaning his abilities do not work on people that Dram and Reck have labeled Verdant.

They

chose to make this distinction for

their

game, even though it isn't a specific distinction in the

actual

Zelda game. The fact that they specifically labeled him as Non-Verdant and told him that Verdant people were naturally immune to his abilities implies that there are verdant people/races/characters or whatever in THIS game.

Other than that, I'm not sure what you're asking for.

Also, I read the thread, and I use ISOs, but this back-and-forth in which you guys repeat yourselves and insult each other and make useless comments is not helping anything. And seriously, the name-calling and disparaging comments about people is really uncalled for. You don't have to keep calling her a fool and saying things like she's irrelevant to prove your point. Just say what you have to say and be done with it.

[Hinduragi]

LL, why do you think that wasn't just added in as a botch? The connection's there a.k.a. it could've been added in via a google search pretty easily.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LL, why do you think that wasn't just added in as a botch? The connection's there a.k.a. it could've been added in via a google search pretty easily.

I don't argue this is possible.

I just think with the evidence provided (the Verdant, non-Verdant thing and the King Zora Aquatic claim) it is likely that this is true.

Ythan thinks differently. We get on like a house on fire.

There's nothing to describe it as, other than personal belief, based upon the evidence we've seen.

Ythan says that the fact CK3 claimed Zora Aquatic, makes the Aquatic claim by Cupcake more likely to be fake.

I say it makes it less likely.

-shrug-

[Hinduragi]

And you're willing to vote Ythan because he believes otherwise?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And you're willing to vote Ythan because he believes otherwise?

I'm willing to vote Ythan, based upon his vote of Cupcake.

He based his reasoning for his vote, off something as subjective as this. He had no real relevant proof.

My vote is not based upon Cupcake's claim. It's based upon Ythan's vote.

[GandalfIzSik]

And you're willing to vote Ythan because he believes otherwise?

I'm willing to vote Ythan, based upon his vote of Cupcake.

He based his reasoning for his vote, off something as subjective as this. He had no real relevant proof.

My vote is not based upon Cupcake's claim. It's based upon Ythan's vote.

Ythan has a valid point for his vote.
CupCake may just not have a element.
I'm not trying to role fish but I think it may be nice to know if any of the other Goddesess(if there are any) have an element with them, that would solve this.

[zwetschenwasser]

ah, but you are! you are indeed.

Unvote; Vote: gandalfhydra

[chesskid3]

But you don't have a vote *rubs it in*

We get on like a house on fire.

Giggitty.

More serious note: I'm ok with Moving away from the Ythan/LLD/Cupcake fiasco for now, since it has clogged up 30 pages just like my back and forths with Ythan. There are other people who need pressure, let's pressure them.

[Ythan]

I proved Nayru CAN be aquatic. Which is more than you have done on your end.

It's cute how you don't know what proof is. It's like being in a freshman philosophy class.

Keyword: 'can'

Nayru may just not have an element at all.

Slash may not be in the game. But let's not make this too complicated for her.

What is the point of this response?

How does this kind of post aid the town?

It demoralizes you obvious scum.

Other than that, I'm not sure what you're asking for.

Barinade has no connection to the forest and it clearly is referring to non-monsters when by verdant.

Also, I read the thread, and I use ISOs, but this back-and-forth in which you guys repeat yourselves and insult each other and make useless comments is not helping anything. And seriously, the name-calling and disparaging comments about people is really uncalled for. You don't have to keep calling her a fool and saying things like she's irrelevant to prove your point. Just say what you have to say and be done with it.

Not in an advice-taking mood.

There are other people who need pressure, let's pressure them.

Then do it.

Don't just ask other players to.

[chesskid3]

I knew you were going to say that, but at the time of that post, I was busy and I keep mixing up my reads in this game with those in Gorrad's :/

[chesskid3]

I'll make a case tomorrow morning (this morning)

[jenniwren]

Other than that, I'm not sure what you're asking for.

Barinade has no connection to the forest and it clearly is referring to non-monsters when by verdant.

Right...he isn't the verdant one...but verdant races are immune to his ability. No one said Barinade was verdant or connected to the forest in any way. The pm says "NON-VERDANT." That means "not verdant." When has anyone said that Barinade is verdant?

[Ythan]

Facepalm.

It explicitly refers to him as non-verdant when he has no connection to the forest, either positive OR NEGATIVE. There is no reason, at all, to believe that it refers to the Kokiri.

[jenniwren]

It explicitly refers to him as non-verdant when he has no connection to the forest, either positive OR NEGATIVE. There is no reason, at all, to believe that it refers to the Kokiri.

It is not a huge leap in logic to associate verdant with Kokiri. I know you are associating it with all prosperous humanoid races, but if you are town then you only have your PM and the PMs quoted in thread to work from, which means you may not have all of the information needed to make this call. The only way for you to get absolute proof one way or the other is if everyone race claims, which won't happen.

A)This is the closest you come to explaining your argument about this is here:

Verdant refers to Kokiri. Aquatic refers to Zora. I'm waiting on something to do with fire, but that would refer to Gorons.

Trying to attach elements in order to support Cupcake's botched claim.

B)

Pretty much. We have only seen Barinade described as non-verdant. Why would the boss from Jabu Jabu's belly be described as non-Kokiri? It wouldn't and she's full of shit.

Kokiri is a noun; verdant is an adjective meaning green and flourishing with vegetation. Zwet isn't described as non-Kokiri, but non-verdant, meaning he isn't associated with green/flourishing/etc. If the mods made some people verdant and gave them immunity to certain powers, then specifying them as being verdant or non-verdant would be important. You're trying to outguess the mods here.

If I've missed a point you're making, please fill me in, because I've gone over your ISO a few times and this is what I'm getting (well, and the summary I provided Friday morning). I can see that this all connects in your head, but it's not coming across to me the way that you may think it is, and I don't want to misunderstand.

[Dekes]

Sorry, unexpected L/A.

Agree with chesskid here.
Let the LL/Cupcake/Ythan argument rest for another day. Town is split on these two and the arguments revolve too much around flavor speculation and they involve way too much spamming where scum can lurk along. Tomorrow we'll probably have more clarification about the flavor after seeing some flips and can draw our conclusions accordingly.

But if you want a case on Cupcake not including any flavor speculation, it's here.

Btw, one more aspect of flavor speculation then I'm done with it. I have no problem believing zwet's flavor. I see it perfectly possible that a verdant race would be able to resist the electrical charges of Barinade. I do have a problem with the discrepancy between his original "only miller cpr doc" and the subsequently added info of reflexive which makes it a completely role than originally claimed...I'm not convinced zwet's role is town and therefore that zwet is town either.

I'd like people like ABR, ZONEACE, Mafuyu, zwet, jmj and whoever to stop complaining about the thread's length and weigh in more. Yeah, the thread is long and filled with spamming and I wish town would come to a consensus in the near future. But we'll definitely get there quicker if everyone shares their opinions. Just pick some points that stood out to you or look into Iso's of people who you find suspicious.

Like this:

maybe he's a night 0 cop!?!?!?!?!

@nik!!!!!!!

- are you claiming N-0 cop or something?

I'm not trying to role fish but I think it may be nice to know if any of the other Goddesess(if there are any) have an element with them, that would solve this.

Rolefishing at maximum.

unvote
vote ythan
for reason stated by LL
btw she is 100% right about what she's talking about

Okay, I'm still not read up, but Nayru is NOT aquatic. She's a goddess, her race would reflect that. Oh, and ythan is town, please stop bein stupid.

Contradictions.

- He's hopping on chess' wagon because chess is anti-town.
- He's calling for a policy lynch on chess long after he's been cleared by Nik.

Anti-town players don't get lynched on D1. They get vigged or are looked into later. And it's even easier with chess. If at some point someone gets vanillaized and chess is still alive, we'll lynch his sorry ass. If at some point Nik dies (he pretty much softclaimed daycop and I don't know how long scum will want to have him around, only because town is unsure about Nik's alignment) and flips scum, we'll lynch chess' sorry ass.

Bottom line of GIS' Iso: Zero scumhunting, contradictions, rolefishing.

GIS: Can you please specify which of you is saying what. I thought it'd be easier to differentiate between you two. And can you please give me a reason why I shouldn't vote you? Actually I don't think you can.

Unvote; Vote: GandalfIzSik

You should really work together as a hydra to avoid such mistakes

[Dekes]

EBWOP: "on these three"
And "completely different role than orignally claimed"

[BrookylnConstruction]

The BloodCov part of this hydra is VLA till Monday night probably. working 25 hours in these two days.

[Fate]

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