singersigner wrote:Yosarian2 wrote:singersigner wrote:Chronopie wrote:I thought that during the day it became a double vote?!?
It does. And that's exactly how I said I'd intend to use it, just not until the rest of the votes swing that way. Does that make sense?
Not..really, singer.
Do you really think a one shot doublevoter is more useful to the town then a one-shot vig, in a cult game where we have to kill the recruiters ASAP? I understand that night 1, you replaced in too late to have time to figure out who to kill, but why didn't you try to kill a likely recruiter last night? If you hit a recruiter, town is much better off, and if you hit someone who looked like a possible recruiter but wasn't, then at least that narrows down the list of suspects. Normally I'm a big fan of vigs holding back kills until later in the game, but in a game where there might be two cult recruiters recruiting multiple people every night, I don't see it.
This whole offer to use the double vote instead of a vig kill makes me feel like you're more interested in proving you're not a recruiter then in helping the town, which seems scummy to me.
Ok, so when you say it doesn't make sense, what you really mean is that you don't agree with it. Saying it doesn't make sense when it does only makes you look less intelligent. Just saying.
I'm saying that your move dosn't really make sense if you're town, and makes better sense if you're recruited scum.
In any case, yeah, I could use it tonight before anyone has the chance to recruit me. But you're right, I was trying to prove I wasn't recruited because if I'm wrong tonight (or I was wrong last night), you guys will waste time tomorrow focusing on someone who wasn't recruited and isn't a recruiter.
To me, it sounds like you think I should've used it last night regardless of who I hit. If I was wrong last night, I kill town. If I'm recruited tonight, I kill town anyway. What's the difference? This is to avoid a whole load of crap that could've ensued because of it.
There's a huge difference between "vig that tries to kill a scum, and either hits or misses and kills a scummy looking townie" and "recruited vig that either shoots a claimed pro-town power role or else holds onto the kill until endgame when an extra kill might win the scum the game."
That being said, I actually do want you to use your double-vote today; if you haven't been recruited yet, then using it now means scum won't bother to recruit you, and if you have, then I don't want you to be able to use your kill later. I'm just not really understanding why you, as town, wouldn't have killed; I'd been assuming the kill last night was made by you.
I could always just kill Ooba tonight and get this speculation over with, yeah? That way if I don't kill him, you guys will know I've been recruited to "save my buddy," and if I do, killing him will confirm whether or not he's been recruited, knowing that we won't be wasting a town's extra shot since he already used it.
I...don't know how that works that works. if you actually haven't been recruited yet, then if you send in the kill, and the cult sends in a recruit order on you, I'm not sure which comes first; my gut would be that both would happen at the same time, and you would kill and then be recruited afterwards, but I'm not sure.
In any case: I don't think you're the recruiter, and I do think you should use your double vote; doing so will 100% prove you're not the recruiter, I think. I do have suspicions that you might have been recruited by now, but even if so, I don't want to lynch you now.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
ooba (xvart, Andrius, Chronopie, ReaperCharlie)
