Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Exilon]

Oh, well.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gis

I can agree with this. STILL GOOD TO SEE HOW EVERYONE DROPPED LAMBDADELTA OFF SO EASILY. Specially herself with her scummy-opportunistic vote. Then she calls me opportunist.

Ray:

- LD chainsaw'd defended Cupcake by attacking Ythan. More, her flavour speculation isn't reduced to Cupcake's claim. I'm talking about some of her posts who just appear out of nowhere with stuff that doesn't really add any meningful content, except scan people's possible answers so as to gain some insight on the game's flavour /roles.
- Buddying doesn't have to be a scum tell, but I was using it as an example of what she has done which can be considered scummy.

[Bunnylover]

So their three wagons. (Player - reasons I see)
Cupcake - Flavor that she released is crap, lurking, not posting content.
GIS - Policy Lynch of Shotty + Gandalf, contradiction in his post.
SubStriker - Voted for a lurker when he lurking.
LLD - Protecting Cupcake and Attacking those who attacked Cupcake.

Out of the 4 wagons, the only one that makes sense is LLD. But I don't agree with LDD wagon since she protecting flavor stuff which I agree with.
SubStriker wagon is stupid in my eyes. Unless I'm misunderstanding it, its pretty much votes consist of stop lurking.
GIS wagon, eh I don't like it, but I do see the contradictions and having Shotty out of the way is always a +.
Cupcake wagon is blah, I don't think I've been involved in enough game to understand flavor and how it Scum/Town related.

Vote: GIS

@Aikage: Why is your vote on Mafyuu when you want a lynch of Fate/Ythan?

[Dekes]

We could always lynch Bunnylover instead.

Seriously, apart from getting slightly scummy vibes from Ythan, that you say can be explained by his playstyle of aggressive one-liners, you haven't expressed any suspicions towards anybody whatsoever. Fence-sitting and lack of scumhunting throughout the whole game so far. Who are your suspects and why?

You say that the LLD wagon makes sense and in the next sentence you say you don't agree with it. How is that not contradictory?

Then you go on and vote GIS out of policy reasons although you don't like the wagon at all. How are your reasons better to vote than the ones on the other wagons that you attacked?

Add some rolefishing on chess and zwet to the mix and there's a

Unvote; Vote: Bunnylover

Will switch back to GIS if needed, but I feel more comfortable with Bunny now.

@GIS
Gandalf, you simply excuse anything shotty says as being his usual VIness. It's your job as one half of the hydra to work together with him and express your mutual opinion. If shotty acts scummy that doesn't mean you and your hydra are absolved from any guilt just because your posts are half decent.

ZONEACE: I called diddin scum a long time ago and the way how Zone's stalling and lurking his way into D2 (it's not like he isn't active on the forums) only cements his scumminess, but he's not the right lynch for D1.

Substrike: I can get behind this wagon and it's more due to the fact that the last couple of posts he made was only exiting out of lurk mode to defend his vote on Cupcake and not addressing anything else only to go into lurk mode again.

@Exilon
I don't think anyone has dropped LL at all, it's just that the triumvirate of Ythan/LL/Cupcake is off the hook for today since their argument is heavily if not exclusively revolving around flavor issues and we should wait for more flavor and/or investigation results before we proceed in that area.

[GandalfIzSik]

GIS WAGON IS STALLING?


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

GANDALF WAS ON YESTERDAY BUT I DONT SEE ANY POSTS HERE.

LURK TO VICTORY?

I DONT THINK SO FUCKERS

Ya Gandalf was on Two days ago sir, but it was marathon day, so you can't hold that aginst him.
Also the language is not necessary at all. I have not been lurking, but rather busy IRL and with other stuff on this site. The wagon is not stalling, but it is just not advancing forward due to the fact that we haven't been acting scummy at all.

I agree with DTM that ythan needs to be checked out tonight.

I still need to catch up on this game, which will hopefully happen in the next couple of days. Meanwhile, my vote goes to fate.

Unvote, Vote GIS

Ok, so you have now lost the ability to think for your self, and instead simply jump on the moving wagon?
Also you are placing a vote blindly and I know that it is a blind vote due to the fact that you admit to not even being caught up. Stop following behind fate and think for yourself!

Stop right there.

STOP RIGHT THERE.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CATCHUP POST YTHAN/FATE STYLE.

DON'T EVEN FUCKIN WASTE OUR SPACE WITH THAT BULLSHIT.

YOU THINK YOU CAN FLATTER US WITH MIMICRY?

SHUTTHE FUCK UP AND SELF-VOTE.

Actually I make posts like that all the time, I will refrain so you don't flip a bitch and shit bricks more, but really that is not flattery it is simply a style of posting that has existed well before you Fate.

You "accidentally" hit it and the end of fully formed point that seems to indicate "im just pointing this out real quick"

Are you fucking backtracking and lying now too?

No we were not, but you are really starting to piss me off.
Fate stop repressing ideas that will start meaningful, and useful discussion.

I'm pretty sure that she's town. Scum doing what she has done in Day 1 would attract too much attention.

"Scum wouldn't act this scummy."

Why does anyone on the site still try to make this argument. Honestly it's about the worst one you can make that can apply generally to any game.

This is a terrible argument to make! Trust me I've used it to help me as scum sooooo much. And BTW I never say it, it's always my partners

Its been 3 fucking hours, and thats what you post Gandalf?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT RE-READ.

OH WAIT, ITS NOT COMING.


MORE.
GIS.
VOTES.

YAY KIDS LETS ALL VOTE FOR THE TOWN MEMBER BECAUSE HE IS STILL CATCHING UP!!!!
That about as pro-town as saying hey let's lynch the replacement because he will have to waste some of our time to catch up.

Chrono you don't post anything while you're here, so what the fuck do we care if you're NOT here?

Really dude chill, we can't all sit home all day in our mothers basement in our bright red race car bed waiting for the next post, some people have lives.

lol. Just Lol.

You read for three hours, come back, respond to me (no indication you are still reading in this post or anything_, and OH SHIT NOW MY COMP IS DYING IM ONLY ON PAGE 53.

YEAH IM CALLING BS.

POST A WALL FOR ME IN 30 SECONDS AND WE'LL SEE IF YOU CAN QUELL MY RAGE

Ok Gand is telling the truth here, he is not in the best situation or on the best terms with his mom here.

It took you 10mins and that post doesn't impress me at fucking all. You just skimmmed shit you could make quick responses too and posted it.

SO YEAH.

DIAF

NOOO! You DIAF!
And stop being an idea bashing ass hole. It's anti-town

UNVOTE: Ythan
VOTE: GIS

Just... Die. Honestly. I dislike Ythan, but at leat he can say something relevant when called upon to do so.

You on the other hand have just bashes me for "flavor speculation"... And then speculate flavor yourself, as seen here:

One point on the force field thing though: As far as I remember, Nayru's love doesn't disintegrate things, just blocks them.

In my world, they call that a contradiction.

WTF!! Another pointless and reasonless vote.
And it's not a contradiction at all.

That said, GIS is scum. This lynch needs to happen.

Explain now

noooo Ythan has less votes, why are people voteing gandalfiszik

i think we need to lynch Ythan or Fate i don't like his posts, they are hard to read because the caps

this game lasts a lot of days, i think we should lynch someon now. i would help but i cant sorry

you also can't contribute... oh wait!

Hey Reck next time you put all that effort into a setup maybe you should pay attention to who you let in.

I hope this doesn't mean me...
BTW I will never play with Fate again

Oh, well.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gis

I can agree with this. STILL GOOD TO SEE HOW EVERYONE DROPPED LAMBDADELTA OFF SO EASILY. Specially herself with her scummy-opportunistic vote. Then she calls me opportunist.

Ray:

- LD chainsaw'd defended Cupcake by attacking Ythan. More, her flavour speculation isn't reduced to Cupcake's claim. I'm talking about some of her posts who just appear out of nowhere with stuff that doesn't really add any meningful content, except scan people's possible answers so as to gain some insight on the game's flavour /roles.
- Buddying doesn't have to be a scum tell, but I was using it as an example of what she has done which can be considered scummy.

Ya sir you need a freaking reason now!
Also your i want x lynch so now i will randomly vote for y is noted

So their three wagons. (Player - reasons I see)
Cupcake - Flavor that she released is crap, lurking, not posting content.
GIS - Policy Lynch of Shotty + Gandalf, contradiction in his post.
SubStriker - Voted for a lurker when he lurking.
LLD - Protecting Cupcake and Attacking those who attacked Cupcake.

Out of the 4 wagons, the only one that makes sense is LLD. But I don't agree with LDD wagon since she protecting flavor stuff which I agree with.
SubStriker wagon is stupid in my eyes. Unless I'm misunderstanding it, its pretty much votes consist of stop lurking.
GIS wagon, eh I don't like it, but I do see the contradictions and having Shotty out of the way is always a +.
Cupcake wagon is blah, I don't think I've been involved in enough game to understand flavor and how it Scum/Town related.

Vote: GIS

@Aikage: Why is your vote on Mafyuu when you want a lynch of Fate/Ythan?

Bunny I hate you, like really. Policy lynch is not a good reason at all in this case. Go die.

GAND BUDDY!

if you want to vote bunny I'm all for it,

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Shotty's Half

[Bunnylover]

@Dekes:
Its true, I haven't said who I find suspicious or scummy. But I like to point out your contradiction. You say I haven't suspected anyone, but in that same sentence you say I suspected Ythan, but said I played that off. I suspected Ythan, I was given a reason why my suspicion was on him, due to his play style. Where have I fence sat? Was it during the LLD/Ythan debate? Because I swore I said that I agree with LLD, and I think I made one or two comments on it too. Lack of Scumhunt? That part is true. Which is why in my previous post I questioned Aikage, because I don't understand why someone ask, "Hey let get a wagon started on this person," But he doesn't vote for that said person. I'm not great at scum hunting, but I'm trying. Also, their are 28 players, and your saying I'm the only one who isn't scum hunting?
As for the wagons, I can understand why people are voting for LLD. I don't agree with it, but I can understand it. I don't have to agree with someone to understand another person argument. What I don't like about the GIS wagon is I believe people are putting up fluff reason instead of just out right saying its a policy lynch. I never said my reason were better to vote them, nor did I even give reason other then "Getting rid of Shotty is always +". So I'm curious to know what reason you are talking about? When did I attack anyone on the GIS wagon? I stated what that wagon was, nothing more nothing less.
On Chesskid, I asked for his powers. So i will give you that, I did rolefish.
On Zwet, I asked for his role pm so I can compare it to the previous one that was posted. Why was that bad? He had already claimed what he was, but unfortunately he posted a little more then I would have liked. So I refuse to give you the point for saying I was rolefishing on Zwet, as I was clearly not. I wanted to compare the miller text as their could be a difference between the previous posted one and Zwets that could lead us to find one scum. I thought that would be smart.

@GIS(Shotty): I know you hate me for that . But I feel comfortable with my vote on you, until someone who I find reeking of scum comes along. I wouldn't worry about anything though, I doubt my vote will stay on you enough for you to be lynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I tried to find something in that post that wasn't a "NO U" comment.

I really and truly did.

Shotty just posted a wall of worthless commentary, I insulting anyone who is against him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: that was directed @GIS

[GandalfIzSik]

@GIS
Gandalf, you simply excuse anything shotty says as being his usual VIness. It's your job as one half of the hydra to work together with him and express your mutual opinion. If shotty acts scummy that doesn't mean you and your hydra are absolved from any guilt just because your posts are half decent.

Have you ever played with shotty? If you haven't, you should take a look at one of his town games and see what I'm dealing with. Then look at one of his scum games and see the difference. I have FINALLY figured out how to read shotty. Hydraing with him has made it a little easier. The trick is to look at the effort he puts in. In his scum games, he'll post a bunch of one-liners that look like they say something, but really don't. In his town games, he does the same thing, but he'll have the occasional wall post too. And you can see that he puts effort into his scumhunting, even if his conclusions are retarded. He's scummy no matter what, and he doesn't contribute much no matter what. The difference is in the effort, whether it be wasted or not.

My point is, you can't put shotty up to the same standards as everyone else and expect to get a result other than scum. There are different signals.

I tried to find something in that post that wasn't a "NO U" comment.

I really and truly did.

Shotty just posted a wall of worthless commentary, I insulting anyone who is against him.

He failed, but he tried, didn't he?

[Fate]

"this is how you read my hydra buddy. He posts an occasional wall, no matter how stupid or unreasonable, but he's trying! Yeah its real easy to read shotty. Shotty is town this game, since he did some wall, so yeah, we're town."

Cool beans.

Die.

[GandalfIzSik]

Yeah, I realize that you guys think I'm coaching him. And you're right. I am. But if you're going to insist that shotty can't be read, then why are you voting for us based on what he's said, not what I've said?
Also, while I think Bunny is scum, I'd rather lynch LC today. Bunny is vigbait.

[GandalfIzSik]

Also, I didn't say that the wall post was what made him town. It's the effort behind the wall post.

[Ythan]

Don't worry, GiS, I meant Aikage. He is the most useless player in this game.

[chesskid3]

Why can't we lynch Substrike

[GandalfIzSik]

Why can't we lynch Substrike

Why would we lynch him?

[Ythan]

Because Cupcake and Lady are still alive.

[GandalfIzSik]

I tried to find something in that post that wasn't a "NO U" comment.

I really and truly did.

Shotty just posted a wall of worthless commentary, I insulting anyone who is against him.

Would you like me to point it out for you?
Also did you even read what I wrote, there;s no way it was all NO YOU because it wasn't even all about me!

[GandalfIzSik]

"this is how you read my hydra buddy. He posts an occasional wall, no matter how stupid or unreasonable, but he's trying! Yeah its real easy to read shotty. Shotty is town this game, since he did some wall, so yeah, we're town."

Cool beans.

Die.

ISO me fate!

[chesskid3]

Shotty reminds me of andrew94

[Ythan]

Burn!

[GandalfIzSik]

Shotty reminds me of andrew94

Ok so I logged off of the hydra and then saw this so i logged back in to say DIE!!!
YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!
I WILL NOT PLAY WITH HIM!
FUCK YOU!!

[GandalfIzSik]

Burn!

=(

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No we were not, but you are really starting to piss me off.

NO U Example 1.

This is a terrible argument to make! Trust me I've used it to help me as scum sooooo much. And BTW I never say it, it's always my partners

Contradiction Example #1 It's a scum tactic I use all the time! But I never use it! Yah....

YAY KIDS LETS ALL VOTE FOR THE TOWN MEMBER BECAUSE HE IS STILL CATCHING UP!!!!

How long you been catching up now?

Really dude chill, we can't all sit home all day in our mothers basement in our bright red race car bed waiting for the next post, some people have lives.

Nice attack. Learning that from Ythan are we?

Ok Gand is telling the truth here, he is not in the best situation or on the best terms with his mom here.

Why do we care? One half of the hydra can vouch for the other half? Sorry, that doesn't inspire confidence.

NOOO! You DIAF!

NO U Example #2

Bunny I hate you, like really. Policy lynch is not a good reason at all in this case. Go die.

More Attacks Example #2

And still... no scum hunting.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Shotty reminds me of andrew94

Who?

[Ythan]

The fact that I cruelly point out your personal flaws when I attack you as a playerslot does not make you any less scummy.

[GandalfIzSik]

The fact that I cruelly point out your personal flaws when I attack you as a playerslot does not make you any less scummy.

who's this at?