Wickedestjr wrote:I don't like AurorusVox's vote for MagnaofIllusion. Magna's comment you quoted was not reaching at all imo.
Wow, I went back and re-read the quote, and I misread it the first time. I
thought
he had suggested that all Furc had to do was to (actually) ward the target of the cult's craft fetish. What he's actually saying is that he could have just crafted a fetish of his claimed ward target. I don't know how that happened.
I had assumed that I had gotten my quotes mixed up and ISO'd Magna to get the right quote, and in doing that I've realised that he hasn't really been tunelling Furc that much either; Furc has been the focus of his scumhunt but he's dealt with other things too (moreso after Plum's prompt, but he did talk to others before that too). This is where I put my tail between my legs and pull this face
as I
Unvote
.
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Baby Spice wrote:Benmage however is more likely town as he is setting himself up to be a murderer suspect which cannot be in his personal beest interrest and is vaguely testable.
Baby Spice wrote:Ben is most definately not town.
Baby Spice wrote:I strongly suspect that Ben wants/wanted to go murderer hence what I said.
I'm not liking this from
Baby Spice
. What did Ben do to cause this shift from "more likely town" to "most definitely not town"?
The vote on Furc also doesn't sit well with me, as it could be opportunistic, and he accuses Furc of flailing which - if Furc has a reputation as VI - is an easy excuse for scum to give when voting.
Regarding Seacore
I've done a quick ISO, and whilst I don't see too much there to pin him as the biggest obvScum, his reluctance to vote Benmage despite thinking he's going to be a danger to the town caught my attention. That's ironic coming from me, I know - but I'd argue that its not hypocritical, because Seacore has never once expressed an interest in seeing Benmage clear himself as town at night (i.e. the whole reason why I don't want to lynch Benmage). His vote for Furc came after the Percypost which could be opportunistic scum.
SSBF's
vote on Furc is probably the least opportunistic. I think Furc is playing scummy but I'm treating that as VI since I don't see why he'd lie about warding AND not hearing a noise as scum (I've gone over this with MoI). I'd like SSBF's take on this argument.
xvart's
vote was from way back when and he promised to look over it again in light of the mod's comments.
Taking into account my previous reads as well, Baby Spice is looking the most opportunistic and contradictory of voters so far.
Vote: Baby Spice
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Oh, good to see SpyreX is here.
SpyreX wrote:A.) How many of these reads aren't prefaced with some kinda garbage. (Pro-tip: You say HITO might go murderer but are A-OK with Ben's kill fate plan because he might be lying?)
Hmm, let's see, in that post I had:
MoI - scummy (since changed)
Furc - town
Fate - town
Benmage - scummy
Lost Butterfly - scummy
Totallynotmafia - town
Bowser - scummy? (asked for clarification)
Hito - town (the murder comment was a joke, wasn't that obvious?)
Andrius - scummy
I didn't realise that "reasons" were considered garbage or that I had to make it look like that to count as a read, whoops [/sarcasm]
We can now add:
Baby Spice - scummy
Seacore - scummy
SpyreX wrote:B.) Its not "unstable". Its "Ohh snap he's town but could be MURDERER CULT EXTRODINARE ohh wait the mod clearly made that not be the case lets just go back to town."
MOST of what I said in my first post leant him being town/murderer, because they're the
same thing
at this point. There are no murderers, there are only townies - who MAY become murderers. And there was one
offhand
comment about him potentially being cult. Since then that's settled onto Town, and I've been very vocal about it. I didn't realise that reads had to be concrete from the very start, Mr. SpyreX, sir.
SpyreX wrote:C.)HAHAHAHA no.
No. How in the hell does that work?
Um. You think it's suspect that I didn't vote. You think it's suspect that I didn't vote for Benmage. What would have solved both of those problems? Why, by golly, voting Benmage.
SpyreX wrote:Not ordinarily. Always. And forever. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO KILL.
Unless, you want that kill to happen.
Herpaderpa, THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT. I've been saying that I *do* want the kill to be attempted, to get a CLEAR TOWNIE. Is that not worth
not
lynching someone today?
SpyreX wrote:This is gonna be real clear since you're all about omg read page and opt to leave out Ben's nested "I'm going to kill Fate" post RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE.
Before this day ends Ben is either going to a.) say he's not going to kill fate or b.) get lynched.
Luckily, Fate claims to have gone for the Occult Book, and I'm under the impression that THAT is the strategy that we're going to use (i.e. Benmage WON'T kill OR get lynched because we can clear him ANOTHER way).
If Benmage says he is going to kill Fate tonight, would you try to have him lynched instead?
Decided to wait for more understanding. Somewhere along the line reading the last infinity+1 pages someone actually explained the Percy rule edit thing. Now makes sense. Consider him likely town at this stage, unsold by current (pg 16) case on him.
