To be honest, I'm having severe problems concentrating on this game right now, because of [REDACTED]. So my heart's not really in this today.
Instead of writing another giant soul-sucking catch-up post, I'm just going to make a bunch of scattershot posts as I go.
I still need to check his other games, but I've lost my will to continue this wagon after that wide-eyed response from mongoose. It would be like shooting Bambi.
UNVOTE: mongoose
Leaning toward a RedCoyote vote at the moment, but hang on. I'm not fully caught up yet. Need to figure out the jason mess and get a better read on dry-fit and Furcolow.
Elmo wrote:How did he misinterpret it? It's not terribly easy to follow what IAI's saying, so maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick.
I'd noticed that wasn't really accurate, which was why I corrected myself in #111:
Also, I mischaracterized I am Innocent's response to Benmage. This is what he said:
Information Instead of Analysis? I analyzed the one thing worth analyzing so far. Your initial scummy plan. Yeah you nixed it, after you were called on it. I just took the call on it and completely blew it up in your face.
So basically, I don't like that you were so quick to defend him
to the point that you gave false reasons for his behaviour
. Yes, it's the irritating and overused "you're acting as though you know his alignment" tell; I understand the temptation to rush in to help a floundering townie. But where did your town read on him come from? Was it
solely
because you'd thought he'd missed Benmage's post?
Percy's answers satisfied me (his posts don't have that calculated "Look at how blindingly townish my painstakingly formatted text walls are, everyone!" vibe they did when I saw him as scum). RedCoyote's...eh. It's not so much that his arguments themselves are bad, but that he just comes across as oily and insincere and ingratiating in everything he says. It's hard to pinpoint what I mean, but a few examples:
Goodness, I think everyone here would probably benefit from slowing down and reading a little more carefully. XD
Seriously though, what do you want me to say? I made an early attack and was rightfully swatted back for not doing all my homework. That necessarily kicks my impression down a notch or two on the game as a whole. Now I'm going to have to think twice before I throw my weight at someone of more consequence, so to speak.
Rest assured, however, if I see something flagrant, be it in that group or not, I won't hesitate.
Can people tell me if this is normal with RedCoyote?
RedCoyote wrote:When you say, "can't keep track of your own posts", I'm assuming you mean, "can't keep track of other's posts". If this is wrong then let me know.
Nikanor's first post in the game is a dud, and it wasn't just an expectation of him analyzing all the posts prior to his. I was more concerned with the fact that Nikanor didn't really address anything of value. In other words, my vote could've just as easily came with the tagline, "for completely dodging everything important going on".
No, I meant "can't keep track of other's posts." I meant "can't keep track of your own posts." Because I think it's
ridiculous
that you voted Nikanor for not commenting on a mistake you yourself made.
After Oso voted for you for the contradiction, this is what you said:
RedCoyote wrote:Whoops. Good catch, Oso. I missed that post entirely.
Unvote; Vote: Nikanor for not catching that before Oso did.
Why did you mention the contradiction in the first place if it was a generic "stop posting fluff" vote? This sounds like you're trying to justify yourself after the fact.
RedCoyote wrote:You're definitely going to have to elaborate on this one. I'd also like you to talk a little bit more about Oso in your next post (especially if you're taking a liking to Elmo's arguments).
In all honesty, I don't have that much to say about him. I don't have a problem with his later posts. Basically, my initial gut vibe on Oso was town, but I thought Elmo had a good point that he was making too big a deal of your slip by trying to calculate scum motivations for it. It was the kind of thing where I didn't feel all that strongly about him, but I could intellectually agree with Elmo's argument that Oso's accusations were outlandish.
What made me think Furcolow was probably scum was the cautiousness of his first post, particularly the bolded:
Furcolow wrote:I'm here. My girlfriend is in the other room, and we are arguing.
I have to catchup on an ongoing game, and have 5 pages to read here. I might have to put it off for a few hours... probably less.
Anyone want to give me a quick synopsis?
What is the best wagon? Nikanor, IAmInnocent, RedCoyote, Oso?
I see some people are not on the wagons with multiple votes, yet lynching is good for town D1 as it gives the uninformed side of things we're on information.
Promise to catchup.
I know the setup is open, too, does anyone have any idea as to the most likely setup(s)? I'd like to know for analysis. I believe I will be making a word document or spreadsheet this game, just to try something new.
Him not noticing that the set-up was GIVEN IN THE MOD POST is probably a null tell, and I know placeholder catching up posts of this kind are always non-substantial. But he makes a lot of useless observations that seem designed to fake helpfulness even though they say nothing at all. Telling the town it's a good idea to lynch, for example. Bragging about his "analysis." And asking people to tell him who the best wagons were. Furcolow always spews the thread with crap arguments, but I'd got the impression he usually doesn't care about pleasing people or following other's opinions.
And speaking of which...hey, Furcolow, how's that word document coming along? That spreadsheet? What information exactly were you planning on putting there? What analysis?
I've heard that he's quieter and less prone to spamming as scum. But since then he's reverted to his charming obnoxious and irrational self. To be entirely honest, I've kind of skimmed over his posts, so I should give them a closer look to see if there's anything scummy beyond the usual inability to come to a coherent conclusion.
...But wait a minute. Why did you ask me this question? Because you didn't agree with my Furcolow read, or because of something else? (There is a very specific reason I'm asking this.)
...Dammit. I have to get off the computer now, but an answer to Sotty and comments on jason (to be honest, I can't make up my mind on him) coming later.
Mod note: Removed excess quote tag
seriously.
