The Return to Liten (Game Over)

[SpyreX]

Spyrex isn't making any sense. If there's a way to confirm the BP townie without outing another power role, this chucklehead would like to hear it.

I never, ever said there wouldn't be other pieces for it to be done.

However, going "WELP" in this situation makes little sense but time is a factor so I dont see it swinging around now.

IF I WERE A GUY WHO HAD A GUN and I'm right about SO I'd done be shooting someone on that wagon (hint: Twomz).

[Furry]

Unvote
Vote Nero Cain

Call it a change of heart or whatever the hell you want to call it but I just got chills over how I see his thought process go surrounding BP claim when you look at it closely. Not really a smart train of thought by any stretch, but it looks more like town melting down then scum melting down there. The BP claim just sits very bad with me though, I have played about 60 games and THINK I remember one with a town BP. This may be my first one they are that unbelieveably rare.

The risk/benifit of keeping SO around mostly lie in getting a non-cop to confirm him

NO COP SHOULD TARGET SO EVER, trackers go crazy

just needed to get that out there since if he isnt town he is probably GF or SK which should show up as town to most cops.

We really need to unwagon UT though, seriously. Now. That slot is definantly town.

Following need death in order of urgancy
1 - Nero Cain
2 - Feysal
3 - Twomz
4 - CES

If all four of them are alive tomorrow I will probably kill someone myself out of pure rage, and I like my roommates, please dont send me to jail.

Seriously though, NO UT LYNCH. NC DIES NOW. SERIOUSLY.

[Furry]

Its been two minutes and none of those four are dead damnit... deathify them in any way possible!

[SpyreX]

Give me something to bite a little on Nero and we can dance.

[Thor665]

We really need to unwagon UT though, seriously. Now. That slot is definantly town.

Wait, huh?

Reasoning pl0x!

[Furry]

Give me something to bite a little on Nero and we can dance.

My iso 16/17 also the fact that he refuses to comment on the UT/Bowser thing, "just believes" the SO claim and says that all he says on that matter. Then there is his scumtastic vote on MoI thats reasoning is "no one is going to follow me but im going to put my vote there anyway

just so I can avoid commenting on anything else

" italicized is elaboration, but you get the idea. He be scum.

@Thor - Look at the wagon. Also the fact that his wagon is just sitting there being all happy and whatnot. Also that its based off lurking which is crap since its turning into a double flake. UT is almost for sure town here, I bet my <Insert Celebrity of choice here> signed poster on it

[SpyreX]

I like your style.

Unvote, Vote: Nero

[Nero Cain]

the fact that he refuses to comment on the UT/Bowser thing

When did I say this?

[Thor665]

@Newbie Cain - how about when you inferred it by ducking all of my questions for you last page? Here[/url and here, get to work on that. Stop sandbagging and respond to this in your next post or I will vote you just out of a little spate of whiny tantrum for being ignored.

@Furry - what about the Thor is town/scum thing I pointed out? Have you sobered up enough to comment on it?
I'll consider the NC shift when I get a happier read on the slot, but I don't think you're running it up for anything more or less exciting then has been seen on the other wagons of the day.

[Nero Cain]

@prickTHOR or.....maybe I haven't had time. You do realize that was my first post since you've asked those questions so calling it ducking is a bit premature.

[Thor665]

Vote: Nero Cain

Maybe the 3rd post after will have content? We'll see.

[Furry]

the fact that he refuses to comment on the UT/Bowser thing

When did I say this?

When you havent talked about him all game despite him being near lynch the entire time.

@Furry - what about the Thor is town/scum thing I pointed out? Have you sobered up enough to comment on it?
I'll consider the NC shift when I get a happier read on the slot, but I don't think you're running it up for anything more or less exciting then has been seen on the other wagons of the day.

Dont think its much of a tell, sounds more like pissed off then a tell.

Ultra-wagon shift go! This lynches scum and probably catches other scum with their pants down.

[Thor665]

Dont think its much of a tell, sounds more like pissed off then a tell.

Really?
He types out that I'm judging him without knowing his alignment (as he types this he has to be thinking I'm misguided town)
In the next sentence he calls me out for some sort of odd bussing action on my buddy (at this point he's *accussing* me of being scum)
Pretty big jump from sentence to sentence, amirite?
Do you really think I was so under Tripod's skin as to cause that sort of angry slip? I've heard from reliable sources that I'm a pr*ck, but I think even I take a bit of grinding to really annoy people.

If you think Tripod's anger is excusable why do you not take into account the blatant newbie juice flinging from Newbie Cain's pores? He's made some really silly cases and clearly believes them, and sloppiness in answering questions and making logical pro-town moves is an easy outgrowth of that. Other then the bussing/distancing thing I asked him about last page I'm still not sure I really feel that case. Why is sloppy play from anger understandable and sloppy play from newbiness not?

[Thor665]

@Furry - also, what do you think about angry Tripod not even responding to my case next time he posted?

[Furry]

Dont think its much of a tell, sounds more like pissed off then a tell.

Really?
He types out that I'm judging him without knowing his alignment (as he types this he has to be thinking I'm misguided town)
In the next sentence he calls me out for some sort of odd bussing action on my buddy (at this point he's *accussing* me of being scum)
Pretty big jump from sentence to sentence, amirite?

I think this is just pissed off town going down.

Do you really think I was so under Tripod's skin as to cause that sort of angry slip? I've heard from reliable sources that I'm a pr*ck, but I think even I take a bit of grinding to really annoy people.

*shrug* I just think he is town and that was him just getting pissy about the wagon on him.

If you think Tripod's anger is excusable why do you not take into account the blatant newbie juice flinging from Newbie Cain's pores? He's made some really silly cases and clearly believes them, and sloppiness in answering questions and making logical pro-town moves is an easy outgrowth of that. Other then the bussing/distancing thing I asked him about last page I'm still not sure I really feel that case. Why is sloppy play from anger understandable and sloppy play from newbiness not?

I like emotions as tells more since I tend to play by them quite a bit, if I am in a bad mood, it manifests itself in my play quite a bit, so I like looking for those emotions and tells that are wrapped in htem. NC actually avoiding all of the central themes of the game is nearly as big of a tell as the rest though.

[Thor665]

Do you think he looked pissed at me when he called me pr*ckTHOR and basically told me to shaddap and wait for his replies to my questions?

[Feysal]

So after your long absence all we get is essentially setup speculation? You are really underwhelming me this game.

Apparently I should have been clearer. What I was saying about the setup was that I'd seen nothing that would imply or suggest we should have a strongman vigilante. I am trying to understand how and why Square Obscure got himself into this mess. Clearly he was concerned about being a vigilante target. That would make sense if he was anti-town. If he wants us to believe he is pro-town, I want him to explain his thought process. His wagon had died down, it did not appear the vigilante was gunning for him, and being bulletproof it should not have mattered if he was. What made him so worried he had to ask those questions and ruin that?

I was not suspicious of him before, but am now, because I don't know what pro-town reason he might have for being that worried. But, I wanted to give him the chance to answer at least. I'd seen HackerHuck vote him to L-1 (it was L-2 actually, but I had not checked), so did not vote.

[ThAdmiral]

So after your long absence all we get is essentially setup speculation? You are really underwhelming me this game.

Apparently I should have been clearer. What I was saying about the setup was that I'd seen nothing that would imply or suggest we should have a strongman vigilante. I am trying to understand how and why Square Obscure got himself into this mess. Clearly he was concerned about being a vigilante target. That would make sense if he was anti-town. If he wants us to believe he is pro-town, I want him to explain his thought process. His wagon had died down, it did not appear the vigilante was gunning for him, and being bulletproof it should not have mattered if he was. What made him so worried he had to ask those questions and ruin that?

I would also like to hear his thought process.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I never, ever said there wouldn't be other pieces for it to be done.

True, however wouldn’t this confirm procedure required directing / outing at least one more PR to make it work? I don’t see committing multiple PRs towards the process of confirming SquareOb as a good use of resources given he’s scumtastic and the plan could be monkeyed with.

When did I say this?

You didn’t have to say anything. By actively not commenting on any issues outside yourself you’ve told us you don’t want to.

Furthermore why post this when you just could have commented on the affairs ongoing involving UT, Square, and Admiral?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Following need death in order of urgancy
1 - Nero Cain
2 - Feysal
3 - Twomz
4 - CES

But we had so much fun last Liten-game!

P.S. Anyone else notice Squara Obscura hasn't posted BP flavour yet despite Wraith posting elsewhere?

[Square Obscure]

Sorry, I've got a lot of things to do at once on and offline and it's a bloody pain to switch in and out of this account.

Flavor: I've faced the Arkons before and know what kind of damage they're capable of doing, so in paranoia/nervousness I brought along extra protection.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I see. I suppose the rest of us left our kevlar vests home because we figured it'd be a cake walk? If we understand the flavour correctly, we're basically secret agents on an extremely difficult mission (plus sexy times, but that doesn't seem to be all that relevant here). Nervousness would be common and it's not paranoia when the threat is real.

Man, I love it when scum hydras can't come up with a good fake claim and stall; it makes the resulting sucky claim so much easier to analyse.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Oh yeah and

Mod

, could we get a VC please?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Unofficial Vote Count – Based on the last Mod Count –

(4) Untrod Tripod: danakillsu, Cogito Ergo Sum, Nikanor, Square Obscure
(8) Square Obscure: MathblasterGM, LunchMePlz, Untrod Tripod, Slaxx, ThAdmiral, MagnaofIllusion, HackerHuck, Twomz
(3) Nero Cain: Furry, Spyrex, Thor665
(1) danakillsu: apothecaryplusCRABCAKES
(1) Magnaofillusion: Nero Cain

Not Voting: Feysal

The following things need to happen –

Anyone who is not willing to lynch SquareOb based on his badly constructed fake-claim and is currenty voting for him needs to choose a viable other wagon (either Untrod or Nero) and go with it.

Anyone on either of the two alternate wagons who does not strongly believe in that wagon should make a move to another wagon of the three (SquareOb, Untrod, Nero) that they feel is most solid and stay there.

Anyone with a cute singleton vote (ApCakes and Nero) or not voting (Feysal) needs to support one of the main three wagons.

Deadline is Wednesday so we don’t have much time to screw around with this.

My vote will be staying with Square up until the last possible moment when I will support whatever wagon will lead to not having a No Lynch on Day 1. I’d prefer Nero over Untrod but will vote either at deadline.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

That looks accurate.

Unvote, vote: Square Obscure

, that's L-1.