Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[RayFrost]

Aikage has one vote out of their total of 10 posts, which is a vote on mafuyu. Last I recall, though, aikage is voteless.

[nameloc1986]

Hey I'm back from V/LA.

UNVOTE: nameloc

I think BE is scum, and he surely needs to post more.

VOTE: blooderection

I'll be back for more thoughts later.

[Dekes]

So apparently Aikage isn't voteless after all since all D1 modcounts show Aikage voting for Mafuyu.

Aikage:
a) Clarify and
b) Vote

[Nikanor]

A boss-cop investigating someone in the neighborhood of non-bosses is dumb. Don't inspect Substrike because you'll get a result of not-boss regardless of his actual alignment.

Investigating me is a bad idea as well, unless you think the boss-scum had five members in a game that very likely has more than one scum team.

[Ythan]

I expect that boss scum will have EXACTLY five members.

[Bunnylover]

@Dekes: He's answered the question of why he wanted to vote Ythan. He didn't personally answer me, but he did answer. His reason is off, he believes that they were buddying to the max. I think the buddying was too obvious to be an actual scum tell, but at least he gave his reason. I still have a null tell on Akiage, I do not like the lurking part that he is doing, but I do not find lurking = scum.

I am in support of a Substrike investigation. If he is town, we do not want to mislynch him. If we have the opportunity to prove what his alignment is, then I think we should do it. Nikanor I honestly think can wait till the next day, or something.
Also, based on yesterday investigation, and what we believe the shift is, do you think you can tell us who you believe you got your result on?

[chesskid3]

BOSS COP.
NOT COP

[Chronopie]

I expect that boss scum will have EXACTLY five members.

Why five? Why not six? or even seven? (although that may be OP)

We've had the components of Twinrova (yet not Twinrova ) flip. Probably an SK pair. Twinrova itself may be scum ofc.

It's quite possible that some bosses are millers, i.e Gohma, Dodongo.

Relevant

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P.Edit: If he is indeed a boss cop, rather than a standard cop, then the only players that would trigger a "guilty" investigation would be bosses, therefore a scum sage would not show. therefore investigating Sub is probably pointless.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When you fight Twinrova... You need to kill the sisters seperately.

Once you do this, they form Twinrova..:

After a few hits to each sister, they form into one boss -- Twinrova.

So, this raises the question: is there a person in the game who could end up being released into power as Twinrova? (under the assumption that Chrono is not lying about not being released from the sealed realm yet.)

[Bunnylover]

When you fight Twinrova... You need to kill the sisters seperately.

Once you do this, they form Twinrova..:

After a few hits to each sister, they form into one boss -- Twinrova.

So, this raises the question: is there a person in the game who could end up being released into power as Twinrova? (under the assumption that Chrono is not lying about not being released from the sealed realm yet.)

I think that Fate and his partner (forgot who that player was), had the power to form together into Twinrova and separate at will.
Since someone killed them while they were in their individual form, they didn't get the chance to use that power.
Or I thought of this
They each have an extra live, after been targeted by a kill and losing their life, they form together to form Twinrova. This would fix in with after getting hit they would form together. If this theory is true, the two night actions must have been used on it.
The second theory fits better with what you posted, but the first theory makes more sense. Sorry I can't come up with something more solid.

[Ythan]

I stated earlier that I suspect the bosses from the adult portion of the game might be a scum team and those from the child portion millers.

Bunny, I hadn't thought of your first Twinrova theory. Not bad.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When you fight Twinrova... You need to kill the sisters seperately.

Once you do this, they form Twinrova..:

After a few hits to each sister, they form into one boss -- Twinrova.

So, this raises the question: is there a person in the game who could end up being released into power as Twinrova? (under the assumption that Chrono is not lying about not being released from the sealed realm yet.)

I think that Fate and his partner (forgot who that player was), had the power to form together into Twinrova and separate at will.
Since someone killed them while they were in their individual form, they didn't get the chance to use that power.
Or I thought of this
They each have an extra live, after been targeted by a kill and losing their life, they form together to form Twinrova. This would fix in with after getting hit they would form together. If this theory is true, the two night actions must have been used on it.
The second theory fits better with what you posted, but the first theory makes more sense. Sorry I can't come up with something more solid.

I'm in concurrence with Ythan. I like these theories.

I'm also of the opinion that the 3 child bosses are miller (as seen in Kairyuu/Beefster and Zewt's claims), and that adult are 1 scum faction. I would be of the opinion that with such an obvious scum faction... There would probably be a second faction as well... But for now,'it makes more sense to focus on the Boss-Scum.

[Bunnylover]

It is not stretching it to say that the 3 childhood bosses are all miller. As it was Link who invaded their space and therefore the bosses were just defending themselves, so they can be seen as enemies, but not truely villians. This would fit perfectly in the "miller" field.
The adult bosses are villains as they must be defeated, so they are more then likely a scum fraction. The two witches are the Spirit Temple boss, which means their should be at least 5 bosses left. Those would be Ganon, Bongo Bongo, Dead Hand, Morpha, Volvagia, and Phantom Ganon. Since the witches flipped and the mod colored them orange, that means they are not town. Orange = Boss Scums for me now.
Now this is just speculation, but normally mafia are colored red. This can be totally off, but I believe their is another scum fraction out their. Unless the mod of this game just commonly doesn't uses red as mafia. The only problem is that I can't think of another group that work as scum. I was thinking maybe another fraction could be like the regular enemies Link faces or the mini-bosses Link fights such as Dark link, the Poe Sisters, BigOcto, and FlareDancer.

[chesskid3]

Ganon was a miller claim though, wasn't he? Zwet?

[Aikage]

wow almost a 100 pages. it hink less talk about the flavor would be good, since agmes are supposed to be made so that you cant just sy "well link is definitely town in this game ebcause its zelda." it hink we should focus on scumhunting.

blood is still scum! i looked throuh his posts again and he called fate "obviously town" !! defendin his buddy, and then he voted nikanor at the start of day 2 when nikanor was a mason who is confirmed adn stuff. and if be is scum i think him saying "wifom wifom" about substrike means those neighbors are good friendly neighbors that blood doesnt want us to believe.

also, dekes, i was votin mafuyu d1 but it didnt count and i still dont hae a vote. and im not votin today either because i think votin when i wasnt supposed toyesterday messed things up.

[DTMaster]

Sorry I got a prod. Will post sometime Tuesday complete with answers. Had to finish some labwork. :S\

[RayFrost]

1) I think that Fate and his partner (forgot who that player was), had the power to form together into Twinrova and separate at will.
Since someone killed them while they were in their individual form, they didn't get the chance to use that power.
Or I thought of this
2) They each have an extra live, after been targeted by a kill and losing their life, they form together to form Twinrova. This would fix in with after getting hit they would form together. If this theory is true, the two night actions must have been used on it.
The second theory fits better with what you posted, but the first theory makes more sense. Sorry I can't come up with something more solid.

1) I don't like this theory. Two players sharing a single role makes very little sense. How would actions resolve? What happens when one is targeted for a kill when they are combined? Twinrova only has their powers, not some super growth from the combination, making the idea of a combined role iffy, especially as there'd be no incentive to do it when you can only perform one active action per night. Only one died in the "individual" forms, but they were lovers, so one suicided. In addition, twinrova would technically be dead here, as there is no twinrova role existing in the game any longer.

2) If this were true, that would require two deaths shown: one for the individual deaths and one for the twinrova deaths. The number of kills would make them dying twice ridiculous, imo. There's also the fact chrono hasn't been unsealed (Evidence: chrono still has access to the sage QT. I doubt he'd be dumb enough to lie about something that easy to find out), meaning twinrova is still alive.

If we are really going to go into this, there's a really simple explanation for it. There's still a twinrova alive or there is no twinrova role in this game. As the mods said they don't lie in role PMs, it can only be the first.

[RayFrost]

P.S.

Vote substrike

It's staying until I hear back from exilon.

[zwetschenwasser]

Got prod, is sad he can't be more active in this game. However, I will say that I find exilon the scummiest at the moment.

[RayFrost]

I'd also like to point out that gohma isn't very innocent.

In fact, neither is barinade.

[vezokpiraka]

What is happening here?????
Oh gosh what did I get myself into?

I will come back in a minute. in the meant time can anyone show me all role PMs that got posted?

[vezokpiraka]

The people I replaced did nothing?

Why is Fate dead????? Reviver type role that is in this game please revive him. Like now if it's possible.

Who is responsible of the shift? Let us know or at least make the shift be 0. if this is th same role like in RMMMMMM than please help the town. Even if you are cum or whatever.

[nameloc1986]

Why is Fate dead????? Reviver type role that is in this game please revive him. Like now if it's possible.

Hey Fate was killed Night 1! He was scum (Koume), why do you want him revived and how are you sure there is a reviver role? I'm confused!

[mothrax]

@DTM: blatant misrep: What niknanor was asking for was chrono/sub outing any neigbor who was not attacking another neighbor and saying that made them obv-scum. I disagree. In your post you hit on exactly what I was trying to say, which is that just because a person has not outright attacked another player does not mean they are not scumhunting/ have a scum read on one of these people.

[mothrax]

@jenniwren: my case on BE was blatant sheeping and being obstinent. His attitude does nothing to help the town and he followed fate much of D1.
Yes he is still one of my top scum reads. as shown by:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Blooderection