Hydra Mafia (Day 4, I can't think of a clever title!)

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:02 am

BlackSpy here on my phone so don't expect fancy posting.

I agree re: Chime ... to much Reasonable Town Tm and not enough scum hunting.

Don't like deadline lynch but hate No Lynch.

CC is agreed as strong Town read.

Pineapple · Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:02 am

i hope town can pull a win outta this one. tomorrow is probably LYLO unless something surprising happens.

MasterSpy · Post Post #577 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:02 am

Well, that's the end of that.

PP, your ISO 42 essentially just says, "I don't know why PP took the stance he did on meta." That's not an answer. I want Ellibereth himself to come in this thread and explain why he backtracked his stance on meta. Why did he refuse to claim? Which posts were his and which were

Speaking of which, can you explain what you meant by the discussion about "reactions"? Paraphrase it some more. Ellibereth made it sound like he did it mostly for the lulz. What reactions did he say he was hoping to draw?

I disagree with Talitha on how easy it is to fake a last words post: on the contrary, I find townies ten to look about ten times more townish when their lynch is inevitable.

Current guess for a scumteam: PP-Bowser-Chimaira? (unfortunately, I have almost no read on IC and T&J, so either would probably fit in as well.)

Oh, and Crab Canon is obvobvobvtown.

This game is so annoying.

MasterSpy · Post Post #578 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:03 am

MagnaofIllusion wrote:BlackSpy here on my phone so don't expect fancy posting.

I agree re: Chime ... to much Reasonable Town Tm and not enough scum hunting.

Don't like deadline lynch but hate No Lynch.

CC is agreed as strong Town read.

So much for not revealing your hydra head. *snickers*

Crab Canon · Post Post #579 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:03 am

Unvote, Vote: Pineapple

Just in case the mod actually meant to not count my last vote. Best to make sure it goes through.

Pineapple · Post Post #580 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:04 am

Crab Canon wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Pineapple

Just in case the mod actually meant to not count my last vote. Best to make sure it goes through.

your vote was on me as of the latest vote count. PP's was the hammer.

Pineapple · Post Post #581 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:05 am

MasterSpy wrote:Current guess for a scumteam: PP-Bowser-Chimaira? (unfortunately, I have almost no read on IC and T&J, so either would probably fit in as well.)

what is that based on though? are there any particular connections between them? or do you have individual scum reads on each of them?

Crab Canon · Post Post #582 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:06 am

MS wrote:Current guess for a scumteam: PP-Bowser-Chimaira

If I was including Chimaira as scum, I would probably be strongly looking at this combination.

Pineapple wrote:your vote was on me as of the latest vote count. PP's was the hammer.

Oh, the mod must have fixed it then because it was on IC when it was originally posted.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #583 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:06 am

It was pretty much common knowledge at this point and I can't log onto MasterSpy on my phone.
So :p

Pineapple · Post Post #584 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:07 am

also worth mentioning that although i have both IC and PP as scum...i dont have a feeling that they are both scum.

Pineapple · Post Post #585 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:08 am

in other words i think one is scum...but at the moment dont really see them on a team.

Crab Canon · Post Post #586 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:10 am

Sotty, I would like you to answer before the day is up why Pineapple's vanilla claim assured you they were scum.

Fenhl · Post Post #587 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:17 am

Go town!

Pineapple · Post Post #588 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:17 am

O.o i thought you replaced out Fenhl

MasterSpy · Post Post #589 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:21 am

Pineapple wrote:
MasterSpy wrote:Current guess for a scumteam: PP-Bowser-Chimaira? (unfortunately, I have almost no read on IC and T&J, so either would probably fit in as well.)
what is that based on though? are there any particular connections between them? or do you have individual scum reads on each of them?

It's more individual scum reads, but they do fit nicely together.

That said, this post did make me consider a PP-Chimaira team:

Chimaira wrote:I like your Professor Paradox push now given the complete lack of contribution for that spot today. I do wonder how likely you think you are to get the support to make it a viable wagon to consider though.

But yeah. I've just ISO'd Chimaira and

really

looked at them for once. They really aren't at all as helpful as they look if you just skim over one of their "Rah, rah, let's all contribute and vote!" posts. And it's hard to tell with Zorblag (because he always does look IC-ish and mild-mannered), but I find the Zorblag head in particular to be pretty wishy-washy. He hasn't been very aggressive, or got into any back-and-forth. Case in point:

@Pineapple, your hammer post seems to be awfully concerned about how people will perceive you to me. Would you say that's a fair observation? I'm also curious how you justify the sentiment that you shouldn't have to share your thoughts on who's scummy just because your other head was asked about it (from Post 326.)

Also, it's ironic that he's the one who said this:

For what it's worth, those four might as well be my top four suspects at this point (though it's not like there isn't some stiff competition for a number of other spots; there's so much more to dislike than to like in this game.) They'd be there somewhat naturally anyhow and the not voting (even in a game with low participation) pushes them to the top. Mind you, it's not just those who aren't voting now who should be doing something. We need to start figuring out what sort of shifting needs to be done to get a lynch in before deadline; we're not short on reasonable choices but we lack discussion and the effort to get a cohesive process going.

...when he only posts once after that, to remind people that the deadline is three days away. I know he likes taking a leadership role, but he's content to sit back and coast and let the town dig their own grave.

Also, Zorblag, why did you suspect Tom and Jerry more than Professor Paradox? Your entire case on T + J was based on him

not voting

. It seemed like you were latching onto a surface scumtell.

Sotty occasionally makes a decent point, but I get the feeling she doesn't really seem to have her heart into what she's saying. Her Pineapple attack in particular felt lazy.

That said...Sotty, can you please elaborate on the friction that went on behind the scenes with Chimaira Head 2 v. 1 that made him/her replace out?

Parama · Post Post #590 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:22 am

I'm vigging Bowser tonight. Screw you all.

Mr Smith · Post Post #591 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:22 am

Parama wrote:I'm vigging Bowser tonight. Screw you all.

Crab Canon · Post Post #592 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:24 am

*hands Smith a bullet*

MasterSpy · Post Post #593 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:26 am

...why the fuck would you claim a role during twilight?

*headdesk*

MasterSpy · Post Post #594 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:31 am

Hey, Professor Paradox?

Three minutes elapsed between your vote and my asking you this:

MasterSpy wrote:PP, your ISO 42 essentially just says, "I don't know why PP took the stance he did on meta." That's not an answer. I want Ellibereth himself to come in this thread and explain why he backtracked his stance on meta. Why did he refuse to claim? Which posts were his and which were

Speaking of which, can you explain what you meant by the discussion about "reactions"? Paraphrase it some more. Ellibereth made it sound like he did it mostly for the lulz. What reactions did he say he was hoping to draw?

Any reason you didn't answer this immediately?

Ah, just realized something, though. I'm not sure Bowser-PP works as a scumteam given their early interaction (was PP one of the first on his wagon?). I should reread to see if it might have been bussing.

MasterSpy · Post Post #595 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:31 am

Oh, and on a fluffier note...LOL at Pineapple's appropriate avatar change.

Pineapple · Post Post #596 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:32 am

MasterSpy wrote:Oh, and on a fluffier note...LOL at Pineapple's appropriate avatar change.

i didnt do it...and i've been logged in this whole time.

Bowser · Post Post #597 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:46 am

Mr Smith wrote:
Parama wrote:I'm vigging Bowser tonight. Screw you all.

You meant to say that the mafia will be using their kill on the tracker. Because on the off chance you're not scum, it'd be better for you to not waste your kill

Fenhl · Post Post #598 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:01 am

Pineapple wrote:O.o i thought you replaced out Fenhl

Now that I have enough time again, I am following the game.

MasterSpy wrote:Oh, and on a fluffier note...LOL at Pineapple's appropriate avatar change.

MasterSpy · Post Post #599 (ISO) » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:07 am

*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*
*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*

I hate this town. I...I don't even know if one or both of you is lying. I just hate this town.

Hey, I've got an idea. Who wants to have a mass roleclaim right now, during twilight? Someone needs to post "I'M THE DOC" just for comedic effect.

So wait, Bowser. Since you're calling Parama scum, you think he's Mafia trying to claim his nightkill as a vigkill, and he's

faking

his kill on you just to confirm himself, even though he'd have been umpteen times better off just trying to get you mislynched tomorrow for the win (considering Smith wasn't under that much suspicion). Then...um, why would you reveal your role in the first place, if you think he's lying, instead of calling his bluff? I don't like that you're trying to paint him as obvscum AND STILL revealing your role needlessly. Why do you think he's scum?

Also, your tracker claim is missing something very important. Can you figure out what it is, and why it's scummy that you didn't mention it immediately?

And Parama, why did you even claim during twilight in the first...OMIGOD, I HATE YOU ALL.

*sobs*