Objection Redux - It's all over bar the shouting!

[Vi]

unvote

Vi's wagon is falling apart.

A curious reason to unvote from a random wagon.

Vi I feel left out too.
And why do you say Rhino is scum?

*Awkwardly shied away from my skyrocketing wagon because it looked too large in spite of it being obviously nonserious - I'm obv. probably not going to get quicklynched so it seems like an awkward attempt to put content in his post
*Jumped on the semi-skyrocketing Rico VasuaVe wagon after balking at doing the same thing with my wagon - contradiction in intent?
*Jumped on the VussVudio train as a counterwagon when he could have done that before with Fate - did he not want to vote Fate?

Also, I need more VV puns. That last one was a recycle.

[Faraday]

Vote count 1.3

Vi (4) -

VasudeVa, Papa Zito, Ellibereth, Gammagooey

]
VasudeVa (3)

SpyreX, Sociopath, Rhinox

Fate (1)

Vi

Not voting: (6)

Uncertainkitten, Fate, Jahudo, AlmasterGM, magnus_orion, Vezokpiraka

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is December 7th at 1pm GMT
Any mistakes in the VC point 'em out and all that.

Will give those who haven't shown up yet a prod/link to thread

[UncertainKitten]

@PZ: Well, you see, someone has to *say* she won't be lynched today or the magic doesn't work. And even if she's scum we can find her stupider scum buddies that out her as scum first. And Faraday being the mod has no bearing on his scumminess.

Faraday, you have failed to count my vote for you!

@Spy: You're Bad At Mafia, right? GO FOR IT!!!

@Vi: That was some heavenly humor right there . The game started a few days too late for these kinds of jokes though .

Unvote, Vote Papa Zito

He knows better.

Vi has a point on vezok.

[Vi]

@Vi: That was some heavenly humor right there .

That... was impressive, taking the obscure reference one step further.

PZ knows better than what?

[UncertainKitten]

Knows better than to question SP as if he's going to get an answer.

[Gammagooey]

Oh hey Rhinox just became the best vote around for pretty much the same reasons Vi said+ giving a ridiculous excuse for him to not vote Vi for all of d1.

Vote: Rhinox

Other Things-
Vi: If Rhinox is scum why aren't you voting him?
SpyreX: If you share whatever it is with us Fate would probably be the only one to actually Bitch about it, if it's stupid we'll probably call you stupid for it and move on.

According to the other thread Fate says he doesn't have a role PM yet but given last game I can't help but think it's just another stupid gambit.

[Vi]

Vi: If Rhinox is scum why aren't you voting him?

Because Fate has a special place on my priority list.

[Faraday]

Everyone now has a Role PM. Oops and all that.

[Papa Zito]

Knows better than to question SP as if he's going to get an answer.

So your plan is to let him coast unmolested, eh?

[Gammagooey]

Everyone now has a Role PM. Oops and all that.

>.> So it proooobably wasn't a stupid gambit then.
Psst hey Fate who scumz?

[magnus_orion]

vote: rhinox

good wagon

unvote

Vi's wagon is falling apart.

wut?
why, exactly, are you unvoting?

[UncertainKitten]

@PZ: My plan is to catch people pretending to be pro town by looking like they are asking constructive questions when in reality it's all fluff.

You've been doing a lot of that this game.

[Jahudo]

unvote

Vi's wagon is falling apart.

Sounds like scum just realizing their vote is on someone who is really tough to lynch day 1. Better to jump ship early so its not so

awkward

when its still there in a few pages and conversations get serious.

There was no revote, your original conditions had not expired (VV still on the wagon, Fate still hadn't posted), and your unvote reason does not have any substance (no one else unvoted first).
So why did you do it?

Vote: vezokpiraka

[Fate]

WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME?

[Fate]

Vote: Vuvuzela

LOL SCUM CAUGHT PAGE 2

[Fate]

Everyone now has a Role PM. Oops and all that.

>.> So it proooobably wasn't a stupid gambit then.
Psst hey Fate who scumz?

Oh hey look who got confirmed town for REALZ this time.

Yeah Faraday didn't send me mah PM till this mornin.

Rhinox for VV's scumbuddy 2010.

UK for scumpartner Wild Card.

Case closed bitches.

[Fate]

Mine is kinda along the same vein but a bit different and opens a whole can of worms I don't want to deal with.

Hmmmm....

I have a prediction and I want to see your words just for the satisfaction of knowing I was right or not (you know how it is) do tell.

[Rhinox]

Aww Rhinox, you need to stop being scum in my games.~

Also, how's the no-longer-a-puppy?

Probably pissed at me. Left her behind while I traveled away for thanksgiving.

Rhinox for VV's scumbuddy 2010.

Cuz we all know how that worked out LAST TIME

I like what Jahudo said.

unvote, vote vezok

[Fate]

Anyway, moving on to the road to victory:

Why we should lynch VV, Why Fate will die tonight, and why Town will either coast to victory on his Immortal Coattails or ignore all competence and fall into ruin:

VV:
ISO 1: "I like the start of this game already" What the hell does this even mean? VV was the FIRST to post, so it isn't like anything awesome had happened. There was no awesome D1 START flavor either, so this just looks like pressed posturing to "say something townlike" aka he's "Excited to be in a game with cool peeps!"


ISO2:

Male Platypuses are poisonous though. They can sweat poison! :O

---

Shouldn't we be wagoning the scum mastermind from the last game instead? Or are you just trying to prevent another run of RRUA!!!!!?~

Fate is vig/investigation/NK Fodder though. I'm not worried.
RRUA part deux is nigh impossible given my rolePM.

This is the post I was referring to BTW, what part of it DOESN"T scream scum to you?
1. Herp derp platypus
2. what the hell is RRUA?

3. here's when the lightbulb came on for me. Vig/Investigation/NK Fodder??? I'm not worried?

WELL HOLY FUCK. This is why VV is scum. Wait lemme post one more before I go rage:

Vote: Vuvuzela

It is better to rid the town of someone who will side with the scum eventually and drag everyone else down earlier than later.
Or he is scum.

objection, you friggen jackass.

Lady VaVa isn't a BAD lynch but I'd rather keep him around for comic relief.

C-comic relief!?

On a more serious note, why am I not a bad lynch?

HES SCREAMING SCUM.

"you ashole socio!" Forced as hell, he doesn't show any attempt to seek the alignment of Sociopath through Socio's policy vote on him.
2. Why am I not a bad lynch? What THE FUCK? Town doesn't have this mindset, SCUM has this mindset and uses it to say "look how town I am I consider myself a viable option for teh rope!!!" SCUM

ALSO NOTE WHATS MISSING FROM THIS POST: A hop onto the Fate wagon.

And why?

Well that brings me back to ISO #2 where VV is

afraid of attacking me

he says "well I'm not worried about fate cause DERP" but you know what DERP was? DERP WAS THE KING OF ALL FENCESITTING:

VIG....COP...////// NK FODDER? So basically VV is saying "Im not worried about Fate he'll be taken care of at night one way or the other as one alignment or the other so Im not gonna bother butting heads with him." HE KNOWS IF HE BUTTS HEADS WITH ME HE WILL BE LYNCHED. Also, he doesn't take into consideration GODFATHER BEING IMMUNE TO COPS, which he SHOULD be afraid of given our history of me as a scum Godfather,

ALSO

VIG? As SpyreX's gut pointed out, WHAT THE FUCK ME GETTING VIGGED? It was just padding to his little list to make it seem like he had all his options sorted out. VV KNOWS I would not be vigged nor have I ever been vigged.

SO VV FENCESITS LIKE A CHAMP, AND SCUMMILY AVOIDS ME WITH FAULTY REASONING THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BASED ON OUR COMMON META

AT ALL.

AND HE AVOIDS THE FATE WAGON THAT VI HAS VALIDLY STARTED (based on being a sexy all powerful mastermind and needing to lynch me despite all reads to catch me). And for what? FOR WHAT? TO SIT ON HIS BULLSHIT PAGE 1 LOLKICKZ Vi WAGON?

I DONT FUCKING THINK SO.

[Fate]

Aww Rhinox, you need to stop being scum in my games.~

Also, how's the no-longer-a-puppy?

Probably pissed at me. Left her behind while I traveled away for thanksgiving.

Rhinox for VV's scumbuddy 2010.

Cuz we all know how that worked out LAST TIME

I like what Jahudo said.

unvote, vote vezok

A vezok vote?

Oh I'm getting to you next, mr. fearmonger "if you tink im scum ull see how that works out!!?"

When did I eveN CALL you scum in that game? I had you down as a scummy/slight PR read, and you weren't on my vig list. So what the hell?

Making up meta in order to scare me away from suspecting you? NICE TRY LOL

[Fate]

Anyway closing words with VV:

VV can never get a read on me. VV not jumping on the fact that I haven't been posting in this game but in others should have rang alarms (or at the VERY LEAST he should've said "its unlike Fate to avoid a game, what the hell?) So all this adds up to VV SHOULD BE VOTING ME SINCE HE CANNOT EVER GET A READ ON ME AKA HE NEEDS TO POLICY LYNCH WITH Vi >>>> RVS LOL ON Vi WAGON.
VV is OBVSCUM when he's scum, and HE'S SCUMMY AS HELL RIGHT HER.

Ask yourself this: How do you think a player of VV"s caliber would post as scum in a game with a top tier cream of the crop player list? Now read his ISO.

Then vote VV. Vote him dead.

Next scum: Rhinox.

[Fate]

er... would have been nice to get a link to the new game thread or an announcement in the old one to know this was starting up

Shouldn't we be wagoning the scum mastermind from the last game instead? Or are you just trying to prevent another run of RRUA!!!!!?~

Vote: Fate

(L-7)

Vote count 1.1

Vi (5) -

VasudeVa, Vezokpiraka, Papa Zito, Ellibereth, Gammagooey

Not voting: (9)

Uncertainkitten, Fate, Vi, Jahudo, Sociopath, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, magnus_orion, Rhinox

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is December 7th at 1pm GMT

Mistake or is Vi really voteless?

Thats a mighty wagon vi's got by the way. Any good reason for wagoning Vi over anyone else?

vote: spyrex

to avenge the /inv 11 loss. I know Fate will be onboard.

~ Votecount fix'd.

What the HELL is this RRUA acronym that people (SCUM) keep bringing up? Did they discuss it in the damn QT or something? That's low class. (I know I'll have egg on face when someone points out to me what it means, but these are my thoughts as I'm posting them.

Anyway ITP: Rhinox's interaction with the joke wagon is scummy as hell. "Any reason for dis?" who he is directing that question at ILL NEVER KNOW, but I can only assume it was at VV who started the Vi wagon, in which case it would look like early game distancing.

(I wouldn't have been onboard the vengeance train BTW, I still think its better for me to keep SpyreX around as scum till endgame than to be paranoid about him. And next time, after 1.5 (Rapture was a .5 because I called Spy as scum but voted the lowball chance KoC scum because I hate KoC's play) *facepalms* I'll hopefully be able to read him))))

Aww Rhinox, you need to stop being scum in my games.~

Also, how's the no-longer-a-puppy?

Quoting this one instead of the scum post above it made by Rhinox as I want Vi to have the credit for successfully catching Rhinox first.

The fact that Rhinox wanted to distance from VV (or perhaps make VV that "first wagon of the day" that usually dissipates and never returns again) over going for a Fate wagon. Yeah I know Vi, you'll say its a hard pill to swallow they are scum together but TRUST ME HERE.

Anyway that VV vote was horrible and was essentially "for teh lulz" with no reasoning behind it. I'm of the opinion that you (town) only makes ONE RVS vote and then starts looking for scum. Rhinox's apparent TWO RVS votes are scummy as all hell. Especially when there was the "case" out there of me avoiding the game.

Aww Rhinox, you need to stop being scum in my games.~

Also, how's the no-longer-a-puppy?

Probably pissed at me. Left her behind while I traveled away for thanksgiving.

Rhinox for VV's scumbuddy 2010.

Cuz we all know how that worked out LAST TIME

I like what Jahudo said.

unvote, vote vezok

LOL THIS POST.

1. I come in, grand entrance, etc.
2. All he has to say is "lol fabricted meta LAST TIME don't vote me lol" There are multiple things he should have commented on but I'll withold these points for a sec for secret reasons.
3. HOPS ON THE VEZOK WAGON WHILST SHEEPING/BUDDYING JAHUNDO AND OFFICIALLY HOPS OF THE BUS TRAIN TO VV TOWN?

Yeah Scum #2. Guaranfucking teed.

[Fate]

^need to clarify #3, it should not read as VV TOWN the alignment, but more VV TOWN the destination at which the BUS TRAIN would arrive at VV's scumneck would be in a noose.

NEWAY, UK-WILD CARD:

Back history:
1. I was a mason with UK in malthusis's game where she was transparently town from her FIRST QT post (even though we weren't alignment confirmed)
2. I read through Objection mafia with the knowledge of UK being town (I was scum) and found her posts pretty unassailable.


CASE:
1. LOL MOD VOTE. Need I say more?
2. Vi is a terrible wagon?? But Vi was a fun wagon! A FUN FUCKIN RVS WAGON? ARE YOU ANTI-FUN? OR JUST SCUM AND TRYING TO BUDDY UP WITH PEOPLE?
3. Won con lol
4. More "I want to buddy Vi because Vi is sexx on earth" yeah I'ves seen this before in mixology mafia (another big name game) in which camn said "There's no way I would ever push a DGB lynch D1 so I'll buddy up to her like no tomorrow." (yeah different player different meta, but its the same SCUMTACITC used to buddy people who can't be lynched D1)
5.

@PZ: Well, you see, someone has to *say* she won't be lynched today or the magic doesn't work. And even if she's scum we can find her stupider scum buddies that out her as scum first. And Faraday being the mod has no bearing on his scumminess.

Faraday, you have failed to count my vote for you!

@Spy: You're Bad At Mafia, right? GO FOR IT!!!

@Vi: That was some heavenly humor right there . The game started a few days too late for these kinds of jokes though .

Unvote, Vote Papa Zito

He knows better.

Vi has a point on vezok.

Hey look at me jokey JOKEY LEMON SMOKEY! I'm content free and oh so delicious, many wagons and things have happened but I'm going to vote Papa Zito for vague shit!
Townie wrote: WHAT VAGUE SHIT? (your name escapes me, it may very well be Vi).
ScumKitten wrote:

Knows better than to question SP as if he's going to get an answer.

So Papa Zito pro-townly asking a townie question to SP, regardless of past history meta, is vote worthy HOW??

@PZ: My plan is to catch people pretending to be pro town by looking like they are asking constructive questions when in reality it's all fluff.

You've been doing a lot of that this game.

Building your Bullshit case that waas build on Sand with MORE bullshit. Nice criticizing his play from the goddamn sidelines with a faked town strategy of "im just gonna try and catch people who are looking pro-town!!" The logic that PZ is scum for asking a question he KNEW wouldn't have been answered, in an attempt to look pro-town for asking said question is

SCUMMY FUCKING DIRT FLINGING

Oh but wait, there's MORE. "doing a lot of that this game" NICE BROAD BASELESS STATEMENT. And of course the goddamn caveat is that UK can twist ANY of Papa TownZito's posts into "trying to look pro-town" because all of Zito's posts (theoretically, if he ist own) ARE pro-town. So shes going to twist anything good he tries to do as "pretending to be pro town for the sake of scum looking good."

ALL THE WHILE SHE CONTRIBUTES NOTHING MEANINGFUL IN THE WAY OF NOTHING.

The End.

That's it. That's all I've got. I don't really see much coming in the way to change these scumreads, you may say I'm arrogant as all hell thinking I've nailed the scumteam on page 5 (3? 4?), but these reads of mine are pretty solid. Look through some of my other games I never really get THIS amped THIS early, I usually tunnel on one or another, but this game I feel as though the pressure of playing with all your "cool peers" has increased the stress vs. performance graph to the MAX right side where performance goes to shit because of the stress.

YES WHAT IM SAYING MAKES SENSE.

TLDR:
UK
VV
RHINOX

IS THE SCUMTEAM.

<-IS CONFIRMED TOWN FOR NOT HAVING A ROLE PM UNTIL 2 DAYS AFTER THE THREAD STARTED, AKA I HAD NO BUDDIES THAT SAID "what the hell why isn't Fate in the QTz?"

THANKS BTW FARADAY, I MUCH PREFER THIS MOD ERROR TO THE OTHER ONE THAT TIED ME TO A DEATHPOLE WITH ZYRC ON IT.

YOU CAN ALL PROCEED TO SHEEP ME AND PROTECT ME AT NIGHT UNTIL THE GAME IS OVER, KTHX.

Actually I want to have a good game with good debates and shit. So let's not act as though I'm confirmed town. After all I did that stunt last game and you have no real reason to trust that this game, so just ignore it completely. It never happened. I feel asleep and never bookmarked the thread and forgot about it and THATS why I didn't post here yet.

Let's act as if you actually are trying to get an alignment read on me, that way I can improve my town game.

/StartThreadExplosion

[UncertainKitten]

So...would you like me to prove I've done the same thing with Glork

as town

?

Regarding the whole "buddying" thing?

And...the rest of your case can't even be taken seriously.

So here is my response.

Hi Fate. How's it going ^-^?

[Fate]

Hi scum, I'm feeling pretty good.

If you want to feel good about yourself note that YOU ARE the Wildcard, and probably my weakest scumread.

Of course you just jumped back up a notch by ignoring the rest of my case, which IS serious consider the extreme strawmanning you are giving Papa Zito.

Also "here is my repsonse to your case" NOT "here is my comment on your post and all its goodness, and whether I think you are right about some things wrong about others, and whether YOUR slot is town or not."

So yeah, I post three definite scum reads and all you have to say is "I have meta proving your case part A on me false, and case B i'll just dismiss with "it can't be taken seriously"

Screw Wildcard, YOURE THE FIRST ROUND FUCKING DRAFT PICK.