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Post Post #2900 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:02 am

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VP Baltar, 2884 wrote:@xvart - what made you decide to kill furc as opposed to someone who is less likely to be town?
Well the whole debacle and the early hammer yesterday was why I chose to stalk Furculow. And, although it is hypocritical of me to say, but his refusal to work with the town and being all over the place in terms his involvement of the grave robbing plan.
Furcolow, 2886 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if you were the person who stalked Lost Butterfly.

I'm not unvoting you. No way. If town really let you live, they deserve to lose.
You can't let investigators murder other investigators. No way.
Unless you think Andy is lying I couldn't have stalked anyone before last night. I was a firm believer that were not going to let you live to endgame anyway and your behavior all day yesterday reinforced my decision to take care of you now. Maybe if you straighten up I won't murder you or someone will rez you.

preview edit: Thanks, Benmage. I've heard noises everynight so I don't know what the pm looks like if you don't hear noises. Furc - I thought you weren't going to move your vote off me?

Also, Furc - why did you ward Iecerint?

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Post Post #2901 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 am

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Furcolow wrote:it's also funny xvart/el goosuki targeted each other with their second night actions
im not voting you
i want you to answer how you believe i would flip
I believe you would flip town. Nothing I have said this entire game has indicated otherwise as far as I recall.
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Post Post #2902 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 am

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Oops. I forgot El Goosuki's insanity for Cowering.

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Post Post #2903 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:06 am

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xvart, i am mad at you, and do not wish to talk to you
i warded iecerint because he is a good player
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Post Post #2904 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:07 am

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also, i didn't move my vote. i am still down for lynching your lying cultist ass.
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Post Post #2905 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:09 am

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Furc, I'm not sure why you're taking this attitude toward VP. Did he do something objectionable that I missed? EDIT: I understand that you're not voting him.
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Post Post #2906 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:10 am

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hai guys im xvart we have lost 5 of our allies, but i'm going to stalk mod confirmed town

you are so good xvart
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Post Post #2907 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:11 am

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I am tired of players like him thinking they know what is best for a town that is dying and in need of a leader. Players like VP Baltar would let us slowly rot away as opposed to actually trying to coordinate ways to confirm each other (WHICH ISN'T MURDERING FELLOW INVESTIGATORS XVART)
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Post Post #2908 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:12 am

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Furcolow, 2903 wrote:xvart, i am mad at you, and do not wish to talk to you
Compare how mad you are at me to everyone who was mad at you yesterday when you hammered when there were big bold letters telling everyone not to hammer.
Furcolow, 2904 wrote:also, i didn't move my vote. i am still down for lynching your lying cultist ass.
So you think I am Cult now?
Furcolow, 2905 wrote:hai guys im xvart we have lost 5 of our allies, but i'm going to stalk mod confirmed town
If I'm Cult I can't Stalk; but you will recall in one of my first posts that I am hesitant to kill you since everyone has flipped Investigator. If at least one of them was Cult I would have no problem killing you without remorse tonight.

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Post Post #2909 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:13 am

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Ye know, you'd think MoI would've claimed Murderer last night. Whatever.
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Post Post #2910 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:13 am

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guys please lynch xvart
i dont need to die. the fact he would stalk my slot is indicative that he needs to be removed from the game.
i understand benmage's targets, but i have no understanding for xvart. if he really wanted me gone, he would have stalked me night one (N0), and killed me already. If he was acting "pro-town" like he is claiming he did. His entire night actions haven't added up, with his late claim N0, and his "warding drippereth" n1 to "confirm me" which ends in his stalking me??? HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
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Post Post #2911 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:21 am

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Furc wrote:Players like VP Baltar would let us slowly rot away as opposed to actually trying to coordinate ways to confirm each other
/wrists

I was a leader in getting the murderer lynched yesterday and have been trying very hard to coordinate the town at night. I came up with the grave robbing plan (which was successful, sans El G). Meanwhile, you stamp your feet because you're stalked. I'm not saying xvart should kill you, but if you actually listened to others instead of posting like you're actually going to die in the next 4 seconds.
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Post Post #2912 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:24 am

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Furc, please stop with the VP hate. VP's been doing a shitload to get the town together. If he's scum, he's playing the long game, "be so helpful no one believes I'm scum", and that's looking increasingly less likely.

Xvart. Let's assume you kill Furcolow tonight. What do you think he's flipping, and how many insanities do you think he will have?
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Post Post #2913 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:29 am

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And for that matter:

Furcolow, do you think Xvart is more likely cultist or investigator? Would appreciate your thoughts on the %chance of each.
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Post Post #2914 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:17 am

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I think Furco's anger at VP is misdirected anger s/p people's failure to follow the plan.
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Post Post #2915 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:50 am

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@ xvart

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Post Post #2916 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:12 am

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Killing Furcolow off before we get too near lylo is a definate pro-town move.

He's randomness in action thought and voting, and his tendency to knee jerk vote whoever even looks at him funny is a detriment to the town in the long run.
and please don't get me started on that mod error crap again. It wasn't mod error but the belief that you couldn't stitch a fake claim together properly that puts you on the probably confirmed list.
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Post Post #2917 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:49 am

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ElG took Suicidal, too...?

Anyone entertaining killing off Furco gets pro-scum marks from me. His behavior this game has been as pro-town as Furco gets, and we have way too many players to kill before that (ElG, xvart in the short term; followed by players who are actually scummy).
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Post Post #2918 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:33 pm

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SpyreX wrote:OR, get this, Benmage is, like he's always been, going for murderer and making stuff up.
What am I making up? I'm bloody. You're bloody. I tried to kill you. I'm going to launder tonight. When Am I gonna be murderer? D20?

Noone is claiming rezz on you.

Why has SpyreX not be strung up yet?
xvart wrote:Yo Benmage - you never answered why you specifically wanted to rob Fate's grave.

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Pretty sure I did. Pretty sure I wanted to see if he had cult books. But I never made it mandatory for me to do so. Just that if possible I would've liked to. I didn't think it a major, because if the night actions went correctly, noone would've gotten gear.
Baby Spice wrote:Benmage. Since we're still waiting for all the claims, why did you suspect Spyre of being a cultist?
Do I have to? It's obvious I'm town playing towards the town WC. But his play didn't resemble town SpyreX. Moreover he wanted me dead. Plus all D1 despite ignoring me when I said I was killing Fate no questions he asked, he never bothered with me until the very end where there appeared some support to kill me. And he called for my death despite thinking me town. But again, his play really doesn't remind me of the strong town SpyreX i know... I don't feel like he's sunk his teeth into this game to get town to do the rights things. I think hes coating a bit too much.
Seacore wrote: I've had a brief readthrough,
El G should probably not be the lynch today. Instead, we should commission somebody to murder them. All three should be absolutely ashamed of their play, but I think they're less likely scum at this point.
I concur.

We should nominate a nonlikely murder, likely cult to do the job.
Seacore wrote:Actually, Spyrex, fair call. Put me on board with the El G lynch. I just can't shake this feeling that they aren't scum, just a three headed village idiot.
One who's parents are siblings.

But logically, you're right, we shouldn't give them a walk for this.
Give me a day or two, (life days, not game days) I'll vote for them when I get back home.
Uhm... SpyreX is a way better lynch. Plus we can confirm someone and get em killed with the murder plan.
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xvart wrote:Yes. I remember. My blood lust overcame me. But now I'm in a pickle after all the investigator flips because I don't think it is the town's best interest for me to kill my target.
I really hate this frankly. It's the perfect cult claim for gaining an insanity. "I stalked, but now I've come to my senses and won't be killing tonight. Sorry about the mess up guys." Perfect way to hide the ritual.
This resonates with me.
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Seacore wrote:El G should probably not be the lynch today. Instead, we should commission somebody to murder them. All three should be absolutely ashamed of their play, but I think they're less likely scum at this point.
Depending on what happens with Spyrex here, El G definitely should be the lynch today. Publically declaring they should be murdered is not going to work for a number of reasons. 1) you need to assign a murderer to them, which the cult can just kill. If you don't do this, you'll either have no one stalking or you'll have multiple targets stalking. 2) The cult can just ward El G to prevent the stalk tonight 3) The cult can just rezz El G even if they do let the stalk go through.

So you're talking like two nights of actions wasted and a number of insanities gained just so we can be in the same spot in a few days regarding El G and have to lynch them anyhow. I don't know if they are cult either really, but you don't get to blow your night actions two nights in a row and go 'whoopsee daisy, Is insane now!'
Grrrrrr, logic! VPB is right.
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hitogoroshi wrote:Also, you're missing the point on suicidal. If you really are a townie, you make LYLO happen a day earlier because the scum can daytalk gang-up and all vote you at once.
I think that having a nearly confirmed townie in the game until the end is a much greater benefit than what could POTENTIALLY bring the town to LyLo a day earlier. Potentially, because if we were in MyLo and not LyLo, this wouldn't be a problem.
Yeah but there are several insanities that don't really affect your ability to play this game. I fubar'd and got suicidal prior to the forbidden list. I don't like, nor advocate others getting it.
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Wraith wrote:@VP: It'll be bad in the future, if cult start outnumbering townies, but not right now. Why would we ever be voting our only really confirmed townie?
/kills self
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Iecerint wrote:Well, Benmage, too, maybe, but I meant how ElG used Investigate even though it was a useless decision.
Me too what?
hitogoroshi wrote:Furc, please stop with the VP hate. VP's been doing a shitload to get the town together. If he's scum, he's playing the long game, "be so helpful no one believes I'm scum", and that's looking increasingly less likely.
Yeah VPB is one of the better town reads.
Baby Spice wrote:Killing Furcolow off before we get too near lylo is a definate pro-town move.

He's randomness in action thought and voting, and his tendency to knee jerk vote whoever even looks at him funny is a detriment to the town in the long run.
Couldn't agree more. I fear he could be whimsical enough to even vote someone like VPB. But he’s been pretty townish, and it would be way too irresponsible for us to be voting him today.
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Post Post #2919 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:54 pm

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Furco had corrected me by saying they were responding to our treatment of you rather than that of ElG (in the event that xvart is scum).
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Post Post #2920 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:27 pm

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Killing furc at this juncture would be damn near the worst thing that could happen. Team "OHH NOES HES NOT A TEAM PLAYER" (note for the over-achievers I'd love to see a comparison of that group and who HASNT VOTED FOR ELG BECAUSE MY GOD talk about a scum-klaxon).

That said: Furc, this please lynch xvart business is not good. Please see ElG and do God's work.
ben wrote:What am I making up? I'm bloody. You're bloody. I tried to kill you. I'm going to launder tonight. When Am I gonna be murderer? D20?

Noone is claiming rezz on you.

Why has SpyreX not be strung up yet?
I'm waiting for whomever to go ahead and do it.

I'm not sure how to beat how stupid this is in your head though. You realize if I was cult AND got protected by cult when you said you killed me I'd just have said no, right? Not "yep, I had an attempt that matches up but there hasn't been a rez yet".

OHH NO WIFOM SHUT UP.

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Post Post #2921 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:13 pm

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Furcolow, 2907 wrote:I am tired of players like him thinking they know what is best for a town that is dying and in need of a leader.
1
Players like VP Baltar would let us slowly rot away as opposed to actually trying to coordinate ways to confirm each other
2
1
Are you suggesting that you are that leader?
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You mean like yesterday when you hammered after someone wrote in big bold letters DO NOT HAMMER while everyone was still coordinating and confirming town plans?

Furcolow - why did you not rez last night?

Also, if you are so convinced of your pro-town awesomeness someone will rez you tonight, right?
hitogoroshi, 2912 wrote:Xvart. Let's assume you kill Furcolow tonight. What do you think he's flipping, and how many insanities do you think he will have?
He'll probably flip Investigator and I'm guessing his insanity count is what he says it is.

i've got some things to say about the SpyreX situation but I'm waiting until after the final two people have claimed.

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Post Post #2922 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:24 pm

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Vote Count

*whisper whisper*


El Goosuki - 4
(El Goosuki, Wraith, Trilobite,
Furcolow
, SpyreX)
SpyreX - 3
(Benmage, VasudeVa, Andrius)
Benmage - 1
(totallynotmafia)
xvart - 1
(Furcolow)
Trilobite - 0 (
Wraith
)

Not Voting (14) - (
Andrius
, AurorusVox, Baby Spice,
Benmage
,
El Goosuki
, Feysal,
Furcolow
, hitorogoshi, Iecerint, kunkstar7, Nicodemus, nopointinactingup, Plum, Seacore,
SpyreX
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totallynotmafia
, Triglav,
Trilobite
,
VasudeVa
, VP Baltar, Wickedestjr,
Wraith
, xvart)
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Post Post #2923 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:13 pm

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xvart wrote:
Furcolow, 2907 wrote:I am tired of players like him thinking they know what is best for a town that is dying and in need of a leader.
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Players like VP Baltar would let us slowly rot away as opposed to actually trying to coordinate ways to confirm each other
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1
Are you suggesting that you are that leader?
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You mean like yesterday when you hammered after someone wrote in big bold letters DO NOT HAMMER while everyone was still coordinating and confirming town plans?

Furcolow - why did you not rez last night?

Also, if you are so convinced of your pro-town awesomeness someone will rez you tonight, right?
hitogoroshi, 2912 wrote:Xvart. Let's assume you kill Furcolow tonight. What do you think he's flipping, and how many insanities do you think he will have?
He'll probably flip Investigator and I'm guessing his insanity count is what he says it is.

i've got some things to say about the SpyreX situation but I'm waiting until after the final two people have claimed.

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Post Post #2924 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:48 pm

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xvart wrote:He'll probably flip Investigator and I'm guessing his insanity count is what he says it is.
:o
Xvart is sick in the head.
We feel justified in all of our earlier points about him.
Endorse painful death as a cure to what ails him.
At least he's made a very townie list of actions :?

We now hate ElG.
This breaks our hearts.
Those of us that have hearts.
Also, seriously, self vote *and* replacement talk AFTER non-night action of terribleness?
Terrible.

Can see a couple permutations on Spyrex situation.
Once rest of actions are declared will be willing to put down vote.
Will probably vote either Spy or ElG.
Barring super exciting commune of Feysal.

@xvart - no stalk of Baby Spice?
What happened to top suspect?
Defeated by anti-town confirmed town player?
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