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Post Post #2925 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:35 pm

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Did you Hear Noise?
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Did you Ward? If so, who?
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Did you gain Insanities, and if so, which ones and from what actions?
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List all of the insanities you currently have:
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hitogoroshi #2873 wrote:You're not a confirmed townie. Scum could have ritualed and rezzed one of their own. Costly and unlikely, sure. But you're getting awfully aggressive with this confirmed status and it's starting to feel to me like the bravado of a scum who "knows" he's surviving to the end.
According to the rules, this is incorrect. The cult needs a fetish of their target to ritual, and they can only craft fetishes of non-cultists.

However... there is the possibility that Wickedestjr was attacked by a murderer. The cult could have guessed this and deliberately not ritual anyone, making it appear Wickedestjr was the ritual target. If so, only the murderer would know. Maybe not very likely, but it does mean that Wickedestjr is not confirmed beyond all doubt.

From what I can tell, we've got claims from everyone except Nicodemus and nopoint.
How could you even think about speculating Wicked-scum if you were his rezzer?? Unless you did not really rez Wicked that night.

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@Hito: Wicked is way more confirmed town than any of you. If you speculate Feysal-Wicked-Nopoint cult gambit then please add another Triglav, who recently just confirmed me in your absurd speculation.

@xvart: YOU STALKED FUR? ...
@All: Why the fuck are we lynching ELG? We should be onto cult Feysal, Spyrex, Kunkstar.
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Post Post #2926 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:47 pm

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Defensive reaction by scum-NPAU is defensive. I'd bet Town Feysal and Wicked, scum NPAU. Just sayin'. In fact I'd vote this right here right now except . . .

I missed whoever said what the first time around about SpyreX but assuming that we get in the last (?) claim and it doesn't come out in the wash, yes well bottle of WIFOM back at you mate string up the gallows please.

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Post Post #2927 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:04 pm

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You suck at reading Plum. Triglav communed me.
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Post Post #2928 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:05 pm

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Hold up and I'll get back to you.
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Post Post #2929 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:06 pm

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Run by me how many Insanities you're supposed to have if you're telling the truth &c.?
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Post Post #2930 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:09 pm

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He has that information in his CD3. He has claimed 0 insanities, and I THINK Triglav just confirmed that.
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Post Post #2931 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:09 pm

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Didn't someone else claim to have Communed Feysal, though? Or did I just make that up?
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Post Post #2932 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:12 pm

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Plum wrote:I missed whoever said what the first time around about SpyreX but assuming that we get in the last (?) claim and it doesn't come out in the wash, yes well bottle of WIFOM back at you mate string up the gallows please.
I want a full apology when whomever the hell rezzed me comes clean.

I also want to know whats the dealio with the order of your list.
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Post Post #2933 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:21 pm

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You'll get one if and when.

Just the bunch of people up to no good I could think of off the top of my head. All about damn scummy. Question marks are more questionably so/I need to do more research.

Is Cult with 0 Insanities that implausible? Because that post of NPAU's is really just screaming WRONGNESS to me.
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Post Post #2934 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:24 pm

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So why doesn't a brother get a ?.

What happened to change your opinion on Wraith from scum ex machina to ?.

What is it that's got you in a dither with NP (I know what sure has my cackles raised but).
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Post Post #2935 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:34 pm

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It's not impossible (like, NPcult could use rez kits both nights), but it's relatively unlikely.
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Post Post #2936 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:40 pm

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Ohh yea Xvart I've got 2 not 1 insanities (THANKS BEN)

Is Xvarts the full insanity list? That seems way, way low.
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Post Post #2937 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:42 pm

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SpyreX wrote:So why doesn't a brother get a ?.

What happened to change your opinion on Wraith from scum ex machina to ?.

What is it that's got you in a dither with NP (I know what sure has my cackles raised but).
Re: Brother - Because I feel low odds that your rescuer will come at the last moment, Rapunzel. Never had a Townread on you this game which is close to a scumtell for you, protip.

Re: Wraith - Maybe he didn't deserve a ? but I haven't had time for reevaluation of him since Day 3; at least I've had new and scummy feelings on you and NPAU and xvart and ElG since the new Day dawned. Kinda like BS.
nopointactingup wrote:How could you even think about speculating Wicked-scum if you were his rezzer?? Unless you did not really rez Wicked that night.
Feysal had done an accurate evaluation of something not likely but possible to have happened. NPAU responded by voting him, accusing him of only thinking that because he didn't Rez Wicked and was scum. Because Feysal's evaluation was reasonable and clearly so, this feels super-defensive, like maybe it came from someone who himself didn't Rez Wicked and wouldn't dream of rocking the boat by suggesting even the slightest possibility of Wicked not being cleared. Feels horribly off.
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Post Post #2938 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:55 pm

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Re: Brother - Because I feel low odds that your rescuer will come at the last moment, Rapunzel. Never had a Townread on you this game which is close to a scumtell for you, protip.

Re: Wraith - Maybe he didn't deserve a ? but I haven't had time for reevaluation of him since Day 3; at least I've had new and scummy feelings on you and NPAU and xvart and ElG since the new Day dawned. Kinda like BS.
You better hope this is some amazing scum move because when I get cleared of being some kind of f-- scum we're gonna have some serious words.

A taste:

You've got 'new' scummy feelings on me since today began? Is this less 'scummy' feelings and more benmage's attempt on my life? Your case is, pretty much, I'm not town enough?

Your other reads with 'new' scummy feelings happen to include the other two really being talked about by the sane (ElG) and the slightly off (xvart).

But, the biggest one, the BIGGEST one is the fact you're rolling with I'm not town enough over 'I cowered'.

But, we'll wait. Until its time.
Feysal had done an accurate evaluation of something not likely but possible to have happened. NPAU responded by voting him, accusing him of only thinking that because he didn't Rez Wicked and was scum. Because Feysal's evaluation was reasonable and clearly so, this feels super-defensive, like maybe it came from someone who himself didn't Rez Wicked and wouldn't dream of rocking the boat by suggesting even the slightest possibility of Wicked not being cleared. Feels horribly off.
Thats a drop in the bucket compared to his avoiding the ElG wagon.
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Post Post #2939 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:01 pm

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No, seriously, he actually asked WHY ElG is being lynched over other people.
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Post Post #2940 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:10 pm

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Yes I've got new scummy feelings on you regarding the fact that you've got to be Rezzed or be lying and only Nico left to save you. Maybe maybe not, but I like the feeling of having called it and think my odds are good enough (given my reads on you all game) to warrant giving that a shot. It's painless and costs nothing. If xvart/VP Baltar have something to say after Nico claims, whatever he claims, I'm all ears. But yeah. I think probably I'm right. If I'm wrong you get your apology.
SpyreX wrote:But, the biggest one, the BIGGEST one is the fact you're rolling with I'm not town enough over 'I cowered'.
Wait what.

Drop in the bucket compared to your play with the MoI wagon as well. Weird as all get out. In any case, that's all good and well on NPAU. Complementary cases/scumtells on one player are good not bad, so thanks for bringing that to my attention as well.

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Post Post #2941 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:15 pm

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Drop in the bucket compared to your play with the MoI wagon as well. Weird as all get out. In any case, that's all good and well on NPAU. Complementary cases/scumtells on one player are good not bad, so thanks for bringing that to my attention as well.
What, wanting ElG the hydra that can't read or as we know now can't perform night actions with three heads active during night lynched over MoI until he /wrists in such a spectacular fashion that he had to go?

Yep, I went from a scum to a scum. My bad.
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Post Post #2942 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:41 pm

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I didn't say you should have wanted MoI lynched over ElG. That's not true as a point-blank statement. However.
SpyreX wrote:Check sig. I'll try to get on but not sure how much it'll be.

HOWEVER:
MoI wrote:1 and 2 aren’t true and furthermore are scum-tells. I’m far from the only person who has been abrasive in this game. And I did in purposely. I’m rather tired of getting killed very early in Large games when I am Town.
Antagonizing those players who are weak enough to rise to the bait was specifically designed to lower my NK threshold.
You may not like it but it certain isn’t indicative at all that I’m Cult.
What in the name of everything holy is this?

"I'm scummy on PURPOSE, yo" is garbage. In THIS setup with no PR's I have no words.

Ohh look ElG leaps after THIS?

Yeeehaw
This post filled me with all sorts of weird and scummy.
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Post Post #2943 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:45 pm

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WTF PLUM I'm not questioning the validity of Feysal's analysis. FEYSAL's ANALYSIS WOULD BE FINE. IF HE DID NOT REZ WICKED. The fact that he Rez Wicked and still didn't consider Wicked to be confirmed town IS A SCUM SLIP. The fact that you are not getting this either imply that you are stubborn headedly trying to defend your scumbuddy Plum.
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Post Post #2944 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:57 pm

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I'm sorry wait a minute. Wan't Feysal's theory that Wicked could, possibly, have gotten Murdered? While very very unlikely, doesn't that have everything line up?

Otherwise I'm just seeing someone throwing out accusations at me for no good reason. If Feysal were in any actual danger at this point you might have some sort of tell. But he's not, and you don't.
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Post Post #2945 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:03 pm

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Feysal wrote:
hitogoroshi #2873 wrote:You're not a confirmed townie. Scum could have ritualed and rezzed one of their own. Costly and unlikely, sure. But you're getting awfully aggressive with this confirmed status and it's starting to feel to me like the bravado of a scum who "knows" he's surviving to the end.
According to the rules, this is incorrect. The cult needs a fetish of their target to ritual, and they can only craft fetishes of non-cultists.

However... there is the possibility that Wickedestjr was attacked by a murderer. The cult could have guessed this and deliberately not ritual anyone, making it appear Wickedestjr was the ritual target. If so, only the murderer would know. Maybe not very likely, but it does mean that Wickedestjr is not confirmed beyond all doubt.

From what I can tell, we've got claims from everyone except Nicodemus and nopoint.
If Wicked was cult being stalked by murderer then the people who rezzed him are the Cult trying to confirm him as town. Feysal basically said he was cult by BELIEVING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO REZZED HIM WERE CULT.

Your case against me being defensive is also bullshit. I just got a confirm by Triglav why the fuck should I get defensive with you? I'm not happy that all the dead flipped Investigators, Xvart stalked Fur and ElG is being pushed for absolutely bullshit reasoning.
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Post Post #2946 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:10 pm

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If you got a confirm from Triglav - a semi-confirm, a voucher of lesser Insanity, whatever - why
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As for your point, wait what? I had been under the impression that Feysal's point was the Cult no-killed and two people ended up Rezzing him. In which case one of the two was prob-Cult. Not necessarily him of the two. Having said that I'll be going to sleep soon so we'll see how my brain settles out on the matter.
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Post Post #2947 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:19 pm

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I'M NOT.

The whole deal is this for anyone reading:


Feysal speculated that
Wicked is not confirmed town
because he could be involved in a cult gambit as followed:

1> Wicked is cult.
2> He was stalked N0.
3> The cult team
has this information
( becuz Wicked is Cult ).
4> The cult team decided to gambit No Kill and have one of their cults Rez Wicked so he would become confirmed town.

Yup, this is what he ( even if a tiny bit ) believes in, which means there is a part of him that believes himself to be cult-mate with Wicked. Think about it guys, if you successfully rezzed someone on a night with no kill, would you consider him to be cult in any circumstances?
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Post Post #2948 (ISO) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:43 pm

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nopointinactingup wrote:... which means there is a part of him that believes himself to be cult-mate with Wicked.
That makes no sense. Surely he would know for certain one way or the other?
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Post Post #2949 (ISO) » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:14 am

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part of me doesnt care xvart stalked me. he could be confirmed town for a day. one day. that's all he would get out of it before he got ritualed. hell, they might even ritual him right after he kills me tonight. that'd be 2 dead investigators. we really need that you guys. good job xvart.
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