Then I fail to see how a the flavor claim was the lynchpin of Square’s scumminess. Although I think this more or less seals that Scum don’t have Daychat. I would have expected Feysal or his other partners to help him out crafting a good flavor claim if they did.CES wrote:No.
Playing to win has nothing to do with having a stupid double-standard. Your statement that you will NEVER catch any 'Top Flight' player without them is wrong. Glork is one of those players that are considered ‘Gold Standard’ and I found it possible to successfully read him as scum in LOTR Mafia after only 1 Day. Having consistent standards is not a bar to scum-hunting.CES wrote:I play to win this game, not to improve this site meta. Without different standards you'll never catch players like Furry or Yosarian2 when they're scum and that's a near sure-fire way to lose. I do believe that ceteris paribus it's better to lynch a bad player by the bye but I refuse to let out-of-game considerations affect my play.
What exactly about:Slaxx wrote:Meh I don't see how after that post we can't at least give Twomz another day and lynch actual scum.
I love how everyone is ignoring the "Link me to Feysal" shit he said before Feysal claimed scum.
Is town?Twomz wrote:MoI, Almaster and LynchMe are most likely all town, but one of them could be scum (I doubt more than one could be). They might want to watch out or they'll tunnel the game into the ground though.
Thor and Furry look too town from my perspective. I noted my reasons for Thor earlier and it seems as if Furry could just have a very protown meta.
I'll probably never have a strong opinion on CES one way or the other.
NC is probably a VI or newbie scum.
APC is probably just a lurker, but I can see the case on them as scum.
Slaxx and HH are probably the most likely to be scum out of the remaining players.
ThAd is a SK, if he doesn't hit a good target (lurker or town approved likely scum) tonight, I'd say he's the best lynch for tomorrow. If he shapes up and hits scum, I'd say wait a bit, but still lynch him before LyLo if it gets there.
For today, the lack of movement on any wagon for a while is most likely due to scum being A) Lurkers (promotes APC/NC scum) B) Waiting for deadline to hop on the mislynch so they have 'no choice but to get on the largest wagon' and/or C) Already on it (unlikely that more than one scum are on my wagon, but could be possible).
Town being apathetic could also be an explanation. I know it's hard to sit at a computer after you ate way too much a whole four days ago, but there should be more activity this close to deadline.
?¿?MoI wrote:Then I fail to see how a the flavor claim was the lynchpin of Square’s scumminess.
You suggested we don't apply double standards to make bad players improve their game; that clearly conflicts with playing to win. And yes, Glrok can be caught Day 1; he's renowned for his scum-hunting skills, not for his ability to hide his alignment. Taking people at face value when you know they're good at fooling at you is just bad play, pure and simple.MoI wrote:Playing to win has nothing to do with having a stupid double-standard. Your statement that you will NEVER catch any 'Top Flight' player without them is wrong. Glork is one of those players that are considered ‘Gold Standard’ and I found it possible to successfully read him as scum in LOTR Mafia after only 1 Day. Having consistent standards is not a bar to scum-hunting.
Screw you. I gave the game quite a bit of my time at endgame even if it doesn't necessarily show in my posts; trusting Katsuki's words really wasn't unreasonable.MoI wrote:And excuse me if I trust implicitly your stance on playing to win given the way Magician Mafia unfolded.
No. I am referring to the fact that the group has been lynching well. 2 for 2.MagnaofIllusion wrote:Um, what?Admiral wrote:I agree. Especially when the group has been deciding as well as it has been so far.
You are characterizing that the Untrod shot was a group decision?
Let's not exaggerate. It's 0 from 2.MagnaofIllusion wrote:And you think the ‘group’ decisiosn have been going well given we are 0 for 3 on shots from you so far?
