Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[Chronopie]

Now Aim at Gurgi kthx. Best case scenario, he's the red CR. Else, we see what the cops come up with tomorrow.

[Darox]

Remember when I said that wasting the kill wasn't the cult aligned thing to do either?

[singersigner]

@SS: Because your waste of your shot on Double Voting looked like an attempt to prove role, therefore attempting to pass yourself off as a townie. (fyi: wasting your only kill wasn't a townie aligned vig to do. Therefore scum.)

I'm really going to enjoy everyone's reaction when Flay posts the sequence of events after game.

It WAS a town-aligned thing to do, because now the cults (cult?) know they can't use me. Sorry I didn't use it as a vig, but would you rather me have accidentally shot a townie, or remained town-aligned?

And last I checked, no one was "convinced" it was my double vote anyway. Y'all drive me crazy sometimes...

[Chronopie]

And last I checked, no one was "convinced" it was my double vote anyway. Y'all drive me crazy sometimes...

Last you checked was... Before Ooba flipped Town aligned LC. rite?

He was confirming what you were saying, we didn't

really

believe either of you. He died and flipped town. We reviewed what he said, and you said.

--

And I'd rather have had you use it to shoot scum, than waste it as a DV.

[xvart]

@Chrono: If you read this before I read pages back, what was the reason against Gurgi?

The only possible recruiters are Gurgi, Darox, Yourself, and possibly Robo. (Given that Xvart said that CRs are InvImmune, meaning "recruited" results rule out those particular players, but "Innocent" results leave the door open.)

Therefore Lynch each in turn works for me.

Lynch in turn? Best case scenario? You are on Yos2's team. I like your "lynching in turn with Robo at the end." Tell me, what do you think about having a Cult Doctor, two Bodyguards that most likely protect against recruiting, and two Roleblockers that can block the recruiting process?

@SS: Because your waste of your shot on Double Voting looked like an attempt to prove role, therefore attempting to pass yourself off as a townie. (fyi: wasting your only kill wasn't a townie aligned vig to do. Therefore scum.)

Actually, using her shot was a very town thing to do because recruiting is instant, so if she still had her shot at the end of the day when she got recruited she would have had another shot for us to use, a la kill and recruit.

xvart.

[Mr. Flay]

First Situation Report of Day Six

[1]

Robocopter87 (ReaperCharlie)

[1]

Lord Gurgi (Chronopie)

Holstered: Andrius, Darox, Flameaxe, Lord Gurgi, Porochaz, Robocopter87, singersigner, xvart, Yosarian2

With eleven alive, it will take six drawn barrels to kill somebody.

[Andrius]

Despite the general belief that I have to be scum if Robo is recruiter, I am not opposed to lynching him today based on his claim.

Reread soonish. Ugh. Life is kinda meh right now.

[Yosarian2]

Not so.
You are in the cult with the recruiter, and killing you is the 2nd-best play we can make. So yeah

Let me spell it out for you.

I think Xvert's group has either 4 or 5 members. 4 if his group killed ooba, 5 if he didn't. If either of those is true, then I think you have to lynch another member of his group today. If his group has 5 members, then if you don't lynch a member of his group today, town loses instantly. If his group has 4 members, and you don't lynch a member of his group today, then town could lose tonight if there's a lynch today and 2 kills tonight, unless my group managed to kill a member of his group tonight.

Or, you might trust xvert's claims about his group being really small. I don't know why you'd trust him, but if you do, then you still wouldn't want to lynch me today, you'd want to lynch my recruiter. Lynching me in that case could mean one townie gets recruited by us and another gets killed by Xvert, and would bring the town one day closer to losing.

In fact, let me put my money where my mouth is.

Vote:Xvert

[Andrius]

Yeah, I got that much. They either have 4/5 based on who killed ooba.
And since NEITHER OF YOU are claiming it then we're going to assume both of you won't fess up.
Your group had 3 on D4. Its D6. You have 5 now. They have a max of 5.
That means, AT MOST: 5:5:1.

So yeah.
Man. And if it IS 5:5:1 then it sucks. Bad.
Ugh.

[Andrius]

@ Xvart/Yos: So do you know what happens if both cults attempt to recruit the same person one night?

[xvart]

@ Xvart/Yos: So do you know what happens if both cults attempt to recruit the same person one night?

I would imagine that since it is instantaneous (so to speak) that whoever sent the pm to Flay first would get the recruit and the other person would fail. For example, if Quag sent the pm right at the beginning of night that person immediately (upon receiving Flay's pm) got access to communication with Quag. If Yos2's waited until the end of the night and tried to recruit the same person, it would likely fail in some way, shape, or form.

Another little tidbit of information about how the Cults work is that we were not provided a QT to talk in by Flay, and Erg0 sent me the one he had setup on his own. I don't see how that really helps, but just interesting to note.

xvart.

[Yosarian2]

Your group had 3 on D4. Its D6. You have 5 now.

Well, you shouldn't assume that. Xvart's cult is big enough that we are going to fail a significant amount of time by targeting someone who turns out to be in the other cult.

[Andrius]

Yeah, interesting. Just like... ummm... what game was that that I just read where they had to make a QT...
OH.
That Magicians/Hypnotists game.

So yeah. Reading thread.
Liking interactions.
Not liking how we just sat here and lynched bad town players every day.
Not liking Furcolow.
Probably not playing with him anymore.

predit @ Yos:
I need to assume that: we have to be ready for worst-case scenarios.
Though I will give you a hint, assuming my tinfoil is correct: I'm not recruited. And if tinfoil is correct, you know this too.

[Yosarian2]

I need to assume that: we have to be ready for worst-case scenarios.

It doesn't help you to assume the worst case scenerio, when you're in a situation where if the worst case scenerio is true, the town has already lost. The odds of a town winning a 5-5-1 endgame are close enough to zero to be not worth considering.

In fact, if you think the game is 5/5/1 and that you're the last townie, then the town's already lost, what you should want to do is lynch someone in Xvert's cult, get recruited, and win.

More realistically, in any game, you should always assume a scenario where your side can still win, and play as if that scenario is true (because if it's not, then what you do doesn't matter anyway).

[Andrius]

You make a good point, Yos. But I've never lost as cult, so if you recruit me you might as well just claim your numbers and players and we'll all just lynch xvart so I can keep my winning streak.

True. That makes sense.

See, I like it when you're helpful. Even if you are

my least favorite vegetable

scum.

In other words, I love inHim D1. And I stand by my VI = town reads. Meh. Goddamn Furcolow to mafiascum hell.

[Andrius]

18% done-ish.

I've narrowed down my Orange Recruiter reads to two players.

People should post. I like taking a break to chat.

I'm also considering not sleeping until the reread is done. lol

[Andrius]

@ Flameaxe: What do you think of Yos, Poro, and Robo?

Thanks.

@ Robo: What do you think ofxvart, SS, and RC?

Thanks.

[off-topic]
@ Chrono: You definitely should have killed Nacho. Bringing a Mason into LyLo is a horrid idea. XD I know what you were trying to do, but I was SO confused.

[Flameaxe]

Yeah, I did get a sexy message from Flay when I got blocked.

I guess I'm not opposed to a Robo lynch either. My read hasn't really changed at all from...well, from the day I replaced. The rest of my list would probably just be a tie between Gurgi and Darox, probably leaning towards Gurgi. Prozac still feels town to me. On the fence about SS, but leaning scum.

There was something specific that I wanted to say when I was reading up on my phone earlier...but of course. I forget...BRB when my short term memory comes back.

Gosh, people don't even read my posts anymore...

I'm still wary to trust anything Yos says. I still see no reason to.

[xvart]

Andy - what did you think about my directing the recruiter night actions?

xvart.

[Andrius]

Sorry, I'm doing alot of reading and having you just re-post is easier on me than trying to hunt something down whilst reading a 123-paged game.
Thanks.

Anything else you want to say? Who are the remaining townies?
Note: There can't be more than 4/5 of them, so.

predit: Sorry xvart, you want to re-post it again? I remember seeing it, but am in the middle of reading again.

[Darox]

So at this point I'm just waiting for Andrius to stumble onto the right answer for the wrong reasons (I have zero faith in his ability to get the right reasons) and tell us all what it is so I can watch everyone sheep him and continue to not get heard.

[Chronopie]

18% done-ish.

I've narrowed down my Orange Recruiter reads to two players.

People should post. I like taking a break to chat.

I'm also considering not sleeping until the reread is done. lol

One of the two is Gurgi rite?

[Andrius]

No, actually.
You forget that Gurgi investigated town by me on N2.
And IIRC, Recruiter can only flip scum when he kills/recruits, and orange did recruit, so we're good there.

I have this tinfoil regarding the only remaining townies as me, Darox, and Gurgi, since we don't work well together at all, but its more speculation than theory.

HEY DAROX.
What else would you have us do? Everyone seems complacant, so I took the time from my life to sit here and attempt to read the thread again. I'm NOT doing it to be sheeped. I'm doing ot for my own reads; and hopefully encourage some people to look into stuff and see what went down and we can get discussion going.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[xvart]

So at this point I'm just waiting for Andrius to stumble onto the right answer for the wrong reasons (I have zero faith in his ability to get the right reasons) and tell us all what it is so I can watch everyone sheep him and continue to not get heard.

What do you think of my plan to direct the RBers? Do think it benefits town?

xvart.

[Flameaxe]

I made that post about an hour ago...It's not that much of a read. I'll just do a list to make it easy and so I don't forget anyone.

1. Andrius - Scum if Robo is scum, town if robo is town. Most likely not a recruiter.
2. Chronopie - Not the recruiter due to my flavor on the night I was blocked.
3. inHimshallibe Katsuki Darox - 3rd place recruiter pick.
4. animorpherv1 Flameaxe - Worst mafia player ever, obv.
5. Lord Gurgi - 2nd place recruiter pick. Had a good spurt of activity day 3, not much beyond that. Makes me wary because of that.
6. Porochaz - Still feels very town to me. Haven't heard much from him today, so this read is really day 5 and prior.
7. ReaperCharlie - Not the recruiter. Has his all over the place moments (OOBA! OBVSCUM, AMIRITE? ) make me feel recruited.
8. vezokpiraka Robocopter87 - Really hasn't been doing much, imo. I feel like I've said this a few times throughout the game, and nothing really changed. Because of this, he's someone I find as quite scummy, as it really feels as if he's hiding behind his claim, and has been since said claim. Same comment of Andy applies here too.
9. TheLonging singersigner - Prob not the recruiter. Torn on recruited. Still dislike the whole "See? I'm a LC! Not scum!" business of day three (? Correct me on the day. Drawing a blank). Been quiet lately too, so I wouldn't at all be surprised if she is recruited.
10. xvart - Claimed recruit. Not a lot else to comment on there.
11. Yosarian2 - fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff fluff