Hydra Mafia (Day 4, I can't think of a clever title!)

[Parama]

Why the heck was Chimaira allowed to roleblock his partner? <_<

[Parama]

I didn't believe Chimaira was a town roleblocker but I also saw no way for him to be scum with TaJ. Faranor was on both scumteams I came up with, though.

I don't care. I'm not really reading anymore. Faranor is scum. Bowser is scum. If not him, then Chimaira. TaJ is scum with Bowser by PoE and IceCream is scum with Chimaira by PoE. I don't care if town wins or loses anymore, I just care if I'm right or not. Because even if I'm right, town's not going to lynch who I say to lynch anyways.

I actually would put all my money on:
Faranor
Chimaira
IceCream

atm.

Actually no let's go with Bowser/Faranor/TaJ for now.

[bv310]

Never figured that one out, tbh. I didn't see a reason why he couldn't, so I let it go ahead.

[Parama]

BECAUSE IT LEADS TO A SCUMTEAM OF THE TWO IMPOSSIBLE FROM TOWN'S POV.
MODS GENERALLY DO NOT LET MEMBERS OF THE MAFIA TARGET EACH OTHER. THIS IS THE STANDARD.
WHEN YOU BREAK THE STANDARD, STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS.
THIS GAME WAS HORRIBLY MODDED AND I HOPE YOU SHAPE UP BEFORE YOUR NEXT MODDING ENDEAVOR.

[Sotty7]

Random hydra's were the death of this game. Won't lie, I'm glad it is over as I'm sure everyone else is.

Thanks to Troll for stepping in and really helping me get back into this game at several different times.

Go scum.

EBWOP: I don't think it is standard that the mafia can't target each other. At least I have never heard of that before.

[Faraday]

MODS GENERALLY DO NOT LET MEMBERS OF THE MAFIA TARGET EACH OTHER. THIS IS THE STANDARD.

well this is not true.

[bv310]

In case you guys were curious, these are the original hydras and the replacements

Mr. Smith - Parama/Mykonian
Crab Canon - VP Baltar/Ojanen
IceCream - nopointinactingup/AKnottedRope
Professor Paradox - Ellibereth/Pacman280192 (Pacman was replaced by MacavityLock)
bv311 - a2rudeboy/Katsuki
Pineapple - Narsis/Fenhl (Fenhl was replaced by Antihero, after a few other replacements flaked)
MasterSpy - MagnaofIllusion/Espeonage (Espeonage was later replaced by Mina)
FourTigers - Furry/Quadz08 (Quadz flaked pretty quickly and was replaced by MacavityLock)
Bowser - UntrodTripod/CSL (CSL was replaced by Talitha)
Chimaira - Tasky/Sotty7 (Tasky was replaced by Zorblag)
Faranor - Faraday/Nikanor
TomAndJerry - Robocopter87/Lateralus (Robocopter was replaced by Charlie)



Preview Edit: There is nowhere in my ruleset that says scum can not target each other. It's not my job to tell them that what they chose to do was abnormal. In my opinion, it was a pretty good move for the same reasons you just stated. I did make some mistakes in modding this game, but I do not feel that this was one of them.

[bv310]

Also, Zorblag definitely wins my Best Replacement award, followed closely by Mina. Both of them turned around a stagnant hydra on entry and really helped their partner.

[Faraday]

I thought the set-up was pretty balanced actually.

Random hydras worked about as well as I expected, i.e. some very well others were terrible.

[Faraday]

yeah tasky was wrecking my head (no offense) so was glad he replaced out really.

[Faraday]

Preview Edit: There is nowhere in my ruleset that says scum can not target each other. It's not my job to tell them that what they chose to do was abnormal. In my opinion, it was a pretty good move for the same reasons you just stated. I did make some mistakes in modding this game, but I do not feel that this was one of them.

Yeah you need more frequent votecounts, to be more on the ball with deadlines, generally just be more with it when modding. Scum watchers can always target a scummate, don't see why a roleblocker should be any different really.

[Lateralus22]

Ah PoE... I thought you had some sort of extensive analysis maybe or some pretty big gut read and connected me up to Faranor some how. I was wondering why people didn't believe me wanting to catch Prof in the lie because I was telling the truth about that with the questions I asked before.

I don't really have much to say about the setup, I guess it was alright.

Apathy was a killer for the town, I think the mod actually played a part of the disinterest in the game. The lack of votes counts were just bad. Dunno about mafia members not being allowed to target eachother as I've never seen anything against it before.

I think hydra's really promoted lurking as that eased the burden off one player, leaving the other to feel the same. BaM rules really should have been enforced better if you wanted activity. The first part of the game was a let down due the lack of a partner who posted thought it was nice to have more control over my slot.

@FourTigers, I feel some of your pain

@Fara, I was telling the truth dude.

It'd be cool to the hydra qts. I don't mind sharing the scum qt though.

[Lateralus22]

EBWOP: It'd be cool to see the hydra qts. I don't mind sharing the scum qt though.

[Faraday]

no objection with the scum qt being posted either obviously. it's pretty standard.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm going to agree with bv310 here. He could have done better and there have been times I wanted to step in and do stuff, but while the roleblocking within the scumteam is unusual, I don't feel it should be illegalized. In my games, the only thing that the Mafia can't do to each other is kill each other, and for bastard mod games I've thought on and off about even allowing

THAT.

[Faraday]

i'll post the hydra qt if bv can edit out the password we used for it >_>

[bv310]

You could always just change your password for the hydra. For some reason I can't edit it out.

This is the graveyard, btw. http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/dBaCXwS2i3a It didn't get much use.

[Faraday]

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/uF8CnqZT6Mp here's the quicktopic then! I'm sure nik won't mind. ITT we discussed Martin, lurking and occasionally who we 'suspected'.

[Untrod Tripod]

My play was made of failure and AIDS. I cannot play effectively in a hydra. Sorry, all.

[Lateralus22]

Would be cool to see some townie qt's, thought btw I actually thought Sotty was pretty obvious since I played with her before. Was surprised Furry didn't know who I was.

[Sotty7]

What made me so obv?

[Lateralus22]

Ah I was talking about your hydra account, it just felt like your tone.

[Furry]

Would be cool to see some townie qt's, thought btw I actually thought Sotty was pretty obvious since I played with her before. Was surprised Furry didn't know who I was.

It had not been enough posts for me to figure anything like that out, later in the game I probably would have gotten on PP for not playing like I know you play.

Im stunned no one lynched Faranor for lurking which is an ultra-reliable tell for both of those heads. I cant think of any game from them where they dont lurk as scum.

ML should not have been allowed to rejoin the game after he was with me for a while. He posted in my QT, we discussed reads, our slot got killed and then he was reassigned. HORRIBLE move by the mod right there. If you really were concerned, he should have just waited for day to see if my slot was alive. Also you posted the dead thread link in my QT, while I dont think he would cheat, you had a player in the game with access to all the thoughts of a dead town player AND the green room. While I didnt have much of an issue with other modding moves, this was a move that was untolerable to me, something newbie mods even know not to do.

[Lateralus22]

though, Did you think my played differed from my town meta?

tbtw I didn't see any damage from it but ML shouldn't have been replaced into another slot with that knowledge.

[Parama]

ALso someone need to lecture smith hydra about how to actually play productively. Screaming at everyone is just going to make people not want to listen to you at all. I just started ignoring most of what he said and hoping that he was wrong/scum so he would shut up about stuff after a while.

In a perfect world, everyone sheeps Parama and town wins in the end.

It would really work 9/10 games.

Does Smith think that anyone actually believed the vig claim? It was almost as bad as doing a fake dayvig.

It was to draw and roleblock AND stay alive, but the later part would've been a bad thing to say in-thread. I know players on mafiascum, and dead men certainly tell no tales here.
See:

Oh, and big surprise, everyone is ignoring the cases I made at the lynch deadline (note: do not take this as proof that any or all of my cases were accurate). I should have just kept my mouth shut so as not to be NK'd.

Anyways, Myk actually had better reads than me most of the time, though he also convinced me not to suspect Chimaira. Faranor was all his thing (as was Crab, which I hated <_<) and he had TaJ as perpetually scum while I had him in town for a bit (ofc, he was scum at the end by PoE). I agreed with the Faranor scum read about as soon as I reread his ISO, and specifically pushed to lynch him in that last day...

I wish people would sheep me more. I know this sounds, arrogant, because I am arrogant and I don't give a damn what you think about me.