Stars Aligned III - The Tenth Day

[kunkstar7]

Where are we at with the graverobbing deal? I feel like we're stalling out here somewhat, and with the lack of Spyrex mention from Furpants, I'm finding way less likely that that possibility is what happened, so fine with that lynch to be honest.

Sheesh another cower...this bothers me because its similar to the El Goosuki deal all over again. Not enough to derail from Spyrex today, but methinks Nico is going to need some watching tomorrow.

[Seacore]

I think Nico's attitude means that he should see if Percy has a replacement waiting in the wings. If there is no replacement, Nico makes an excellent candidate for somebody to confirm themselves as an investigator in a day or two.

[Benmage]

Yawn, can we kill our first cult yet?

I read nico as genuine as El g.....not that it excuses the behavior, I'm leaning town, but a stalk tonight on him sounds fine to me

[AurorusVox]

I think Nico is banking on us not doing the same thing twice in a row without El G's flip. I support someone stalk/killing Nico and/or lynching him in later days. Otherwise the precedent is "Fuck up and take Cower? No worries!"

I know Benmage suggested he wanted me to graverob. Is that still the case?

[Benmage]

Yes, AV, you and I will rob grave the same person.

[Baby Spice]

Vote Nico

Spyre should have his actions tied up with robbing, not be lynched on the back of Benmage's hate.

Nico should be lynched as it's too risky to leave him alive, and he can't be trusted to dbl grave rob like he should be doing.

Lurkereffic for an entire day and night and cowered. (according to him)

Follow the rules or else. Because if there's no "or else" the cultists will have a freer hand.

Also, Xvart should launder and rob, and be checked for blood. Unlike Benmage there is the remote posibility that Xvart is already a murderer and should be watched accordingly.

[Benmage]

Benmage hate v spyrex?? I love spyrex.

[AurorusVox]

Okay. I'm happy to perform my graverob duties tonight, but I'm thinking there could be a benefit if I delay for one night; the fact is that I have occult books and zero insanities, and so may be one of the few people left that are able to make sure that one of the "no claimed insanity" people actually have no insanities. I was going to Commune tonight for that reason, but what do people think? Is it worth it? Just that if I rob tonight then I obviously won't be able to check those people on future nights. OTOH, I'm not sure if scum would actually avoid claiming gained insanities. But I just thought I'd put it out there for thought before I say "YES I WILL DO IT"

Thoughts?

[Baby Spice]

Don't convince us, convince Benmage. It's his pick that has you there.

[Wraith]

I can do a confirmurder on Nico if the town's okay with it.

[Feysal]

Once again I am a busy hito, someone else compiling the indanger list would make me a happy smile hito. Reference should be updated sometime soonish.

I've been too busy for the past couple days, and haven't had time to double check everything. But, I think everyone but Iecerint is potentially in danger now. Except maybe you and xvart since you were passed fetishes, but if you've heard unexplained noise twice or more, you should also be considered in danger.

My orchestra has its Christmas concert tomorrow, meaning I probably won't have time to compile the lists and double check the data until Friday. If we want to finish the day sooner, someone else is welcome to do it.

Okay. I'm happy to perform my graverob duties tonight, but I'm thinking there could be a benefit if I delay for one night; the fact is that I have occult books and zero insanities, and so may be one of the few people left that are able to make sure that one of the "no claimed insanity" people actually have no insanities. I was going to Commune tonight for that reason, but what do people think? Is it worth it? Just that if I rob tonight then I obviously won't be able to check those people on future nights. OTOH, I'm not sure if scum would actually avoid claiming gained insanities. But I just thought I'd put it out there for thought before I say "YES I WILL DO IT"

Thoughts?

I think it is worth it. Those of us who have been communing already have so many insanities that they cannot really check any of those who claim to have none. I was planning to do the same, actually.

[xvart]

Mmm I thought someone said it only needs one to perform the ritual.....so scum could be piling insanities on one individual.

Which brings up an interesting question: when there is only one Cultbag left does he/she automatically do the Greater ritual every night?

How many cycles has Andy claimed to have communed? I know he did me (yesterday?) but anyone else? I can see the point Seacore is making and if he is Cult he can select from the list of people that he knows isn't Cult that would make a good Commune target and know they won't have insanities greater than him.

Okay, so I can see the benefit of lynching SpyreX even if he is an investigator because it sets a precedent whereby cult will be forced to claim their rezzes, and the chances of the person who is ritualised having rezzed somebody who was murdered occurring often down the track is pretty slim (because of course from now on we are going to have to lynch people who are rezzed with no explanation) so unless we are really unlucky it shouldn't harm us too much. Besides, if SpyreX is an investigator he's clearly more worried about trying to guess the scum correctly than defend himself and try to actually be helpful.

Where do you get the idea that the people who are voting for Spy think he is a possible investigator? Not sure I like the tone of this, you seem to be making excuses for something that hasn't happened. The Spy wagon is happening because he was scummy on top of the unclaimed rezz. This is the second time you seem to be simplfying the votes on him.

~Sotty

I was thinking the same thing. The whole "even if he's an investigator" is really strange.

Well, this should come as a surprise to absolutely no one, but I was absent from the game over the whole night phase (visiting my girlfriend, mafia is not a top priority), and so I cowered and took twitchy.

Is anyone bothering/willing to check this against other posts in other games Nico might be in?

Spyre should have his actions tied up with robbing, not be lynched on the back of Benmage's hate.

There is more too it than that.

Also, Xvart should launder and rob, and be checked for blood. Unlike Benmage there is the remote posibility that Xvart is already a murderer and should be watched accordingly.

You are directing a lot of night actions with little substantiate the direction. How could I possibly be a Murderer already? MoI killed LB. Benmage attempted to kill SpyreX, and those are the only two Murders besides my Murder of Furcolow.

I can do a confirmurder on Nico if the town's okay with it.

So you can conveniently be "warded" tonight and it won't go through?

I've been too busy for the past couple days, and haven't had time to double check everything. But, I think everyone but Iecerint is potentially in danger now. Except maybe you and xvart since you were passed fetishes, but if you've heard unexplained noise twice or more, you should also be considered in danger.

I think I was passed a Fetish so that I would claim to have a Fetish and then the town would go "OH MORE UNEXPLAINED INSANITIES. LYNCH NAO." I don't think they had the intention of killing me last night.

[Benmage]

I'm fine with wraith killing Nico....let them waste a Ward.

[VP Baltar]

I checked Nico's iso. His claim of V/LA overnight at least matches with his posting on site. He was gone from Dec. 1 (when night started) until Dec. 5. That being said, he's been back posting since Dec. 5, so it is what it is.

[kunkstar7]

Is anyone bothering/willing to check this against other posts in other games Nico might be in?

It checked out, his last post before nightfall was 3 am Dec 1 (I believe this was before Percy announced the lynch, and before I received my Night PM, if my timeframe is correct), and he didn't post again on site until the 5th, a day after Day Four had started.

[VP Baltar]

toooo sloooooow

[kunkstar7]

Bah.

[Wraith]

@xvart: The town won't be warding me, so as Benmage said, the cult would only be wasting a player warding me.

[Percy]

Vote Count

*whisper whisper*

SpyreX - 6

(nopointinactingup, AurorusVox, Wraith, VP Baltar, Plum, Benmage)

Andrius - 2

(

Trilobite

,

Trilobite

, Trilobite, Seacore)

Nicodemus - 1

(Baby Spice)
Plum - 0 (

Trilobite

)
Benmage - 0 (

Trilobite

,

Trilobite

,

totallynotmafia

,

totallynotmafia

,

Iecerint

,

Iecerint

,

Nicodemus

,

Nicodemus

)
hitorogoshi - 0 (

Trilobite

,

Trilobite

,

totallynotmafia

,

totallynotmafia

,

Iecerint

,

Iecerint

,

Nicodemus

,

Nicodemus

)

Not Voting (11) - (Andrius,

Baby Spice

, Feysal, hitorogoshi, Iecerint, kunkstar7, Nicodemus,

Seacore

, SpyreX, totallynotmafia, Triglav, VasudeVa, xvart)

nopointinactingup has requested replacement. May take me a while to find one...

The deadline for today's lynch is Saturday, 18 December 2010 at 1:30:00 AM (default site time).

With 20 alive, 11 votes secures a Lynch.

[Seacore]

Personally, I'd like Plum to stalk and murder Nico.

[Plum]

Personally, I'd like Plum to stalk and murder Nico.

I thought you'd never ask. Was pretty disappointed when Stalking was explicitly UNSANCTIONED last Night. I'm up for this; anyone object to the idea in principle?

[Benmage]

Why are there so many people not voting?

[VasudeVa]

I have the hammer, so. (AGAIN IF SOMEONE STEALS FROM ME I WILL BE PISSED.)

Are stuff done and finalized?

Plum is for tomorrow lynching. I want AV to stalk and murder Nico. I read him as a Spy buddy but Trilo thinks otherwise. Maybe an AV murder can clear that up, eh?

----

Teh Plume case:

1.) ReaperCharles in the "Town alliance of AWESOEM" very early in the game but then quickly disappeared here with very little mention.
2.) SpyreX in the keep an eye on list, but little mention of SpyreX before hand.
3.) Despite having SpyreX in the 'keep an eye on' list, she was still planning out murders with SpyreX here which is...odd.
4.) Random Spy vs. Plum moments that seemed to appear out of nowhere and wasn't even valid to any discussion at that time. These, by all means, do

not

look like genuine Townie interactions at all. Hell, they don't even look like scum-Town interactions.
5.) Appearing only when mentioned, opportunistically voting for MoI and El Goo

[Seacore]

Benmage, we're waiting for nopoint to pass the test, although that should probably be discarded. If we get to night before the replacement, the role can't do anything anyway.

Graverob is not finalised.
Hito has not posted his night action list.
Sanctioned stalking has not been agreed to.

Benmage, I'd be realyl happy if you didn't have Andrius as your "town" component of the graverob.

Does anybody disagree that Plum should stalk Nico, and then kill him during N5?

[Seacore]

Actually, sorry, somehow I glazed over VV's post. I'm also happy for that.

I agree to sanctioning AV to stalk Nico and Murder him during N5.