Zachtown in the mountains (Game over TOWN WINS!)

[Furcolow]

@mod

sorry for colors in quoted post, i don't know how to fix all that

[Furcolow]

where am I OMGUS and pushing VIs

read the last quote in my 1159
you vote me for voting you
you also vote me
am i not a vi

[jasonT1981]

you want to accuse me of easy wagoning.. lets look at you and wagon placements

Final Vote Count of D1 P1

Dry-fit - 9 (Havingfitz, Locke Lamora, Benmage, KaleiÐoscøpe, Sotty7, Elmo, I Am Innocent,

Furcolow

, JasonT1981)
Furcolow - 2 (RedCoyote, Percy)
Jasont1981 - 2 (Nikanor, Dry-fit)
Benmage - 1 (Baby Spice)
Redcoyote - 1 (Mina)

Not Voting: (Lrdwhyt)

Final Vote Count of D1 P2

RedCoyote - 8 (

Furcolow

], Elmo, Sotty7, Havingfitz, KaleiÐoscøpe, Thor665, JasonT1981, Lrdwhyt)
Percy - 3 (RedCoyote, I Am Innocent, Locke Lamora)
Baby Spice - 2 (Percy, Mina)
Benmage - 1 (Baby Spice)
Lrdwhyt - 1 (Mina)
No lynch - 1 (Benmage)



With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

Final Vote Count of D2 P1

Baby Spice - 7 (Sotty7, Thor665, JasonT1981, Benmage, I Am Innocent, Percy,

Furcolow

)
Empking - 3 (Locke Lamora, Elmo, Mina)
Percy - 2 (KaleiÐoscøpe, Empking)

Final Vote count of Day 2 Phase 2:

Empking - 7 (Thor665, I Am Innocent, Sotty7, Elmo,

Furcolow

, JasonT1981, Benmage)
Mina - 3 (Locke Lamora, Percy, Empking)
Percy - 1 (KaleiÐoscøpe)

Not Voting: (Mina)

Deadline for Day 2 is Monday, December 6th at 8am CST

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch

hmmm, you say I like to wagon.. yet have been on

EVERY

lynch wagon yourself...

how is me doing it scummy... yet you have been on every lynch wagon as well? double standards much?

Note: Color tags removed. Read the rules.

[jasonT1981]

where am I OMGUS and pushing VIs

read the last quote in my 1159
you vote me for voting you
you also vote me
am i not a vi

were am I voting you for voting me..

And I never said you were a VI.. you accuse me of pushing VI and I asked where?

[jasonT1981]

Also.. this is 1159 and it was not by you.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14701

Another thread where scums purposely avoid voting/suspecting the same people.
The scums are: nobody special, haylen, twomz
The first vote count with majority of people voting looks like this:

VOTE COUNT

Andrius (1): mothrax
animorpherv1 (3): Zajnet,

Twomz

Bunnylover (1): InflatablePie
Haylen (1): seth
InflatablePie (1): SpyreX
MehPlusRawr (2): TheLonging, SaintKerrigan
Nobody Special (1), MehPlusRawr
Nachomamma8 (1):

Nobody Special

SaintKerrigan (1): Bunnylover
seth (2): Phaen, Me=Weird
TheLonging (1): Nachomamma8
Twomz (1): Andrius
Not voting (3): animorpherv1,

Haylen

, Kise

So I guess we can say that point three is pretty damn accurate in most cases.
I seriously picked these threads at random by the way.

the nearest post by you to it was 1152.....followed by next 1171...

so please, show me because 1159 was not yours nor were you anywhere close to a post there!

[jasonT1981]

Actually looking back aside from my mix up toady between you and Ben, which was unvoted when pointed out to me I made a mistake, the LAST time I voted you was day 1. Giving reasons for it too

sorry, have not been on as much been packing for London and had friends over to the house so not spent much time on here. I would suspect there is scum on my wagon as it seems an easy lynch now especially with how my words are twisted... Scum suspects are IAI, Elmo and Fur.. this post is all wrong in my opinion

unvote;
vote: jasont1981

i don't want him to be cleared
if he was scum he would have made the same defense he made
i haven't heard anything from him, and i read nikanor as town
we can take our time, there is no rush. even if we don't get a lynch by halloween, or if we do, the day will still keep going.

We have about 2 weeks still to lynch, so this isn't damning, but JasonT should have his vote out somewhere by now. I am happy to lynch him because I feel if he was town his vote would be

somewhere

.

He DOESNT want me to be cleared? why???? because it will actually mean him to scumhunt or look elsewhere.. as I said, I am the popular wagon.. this all feels like a easy jump on to me.

Has not heard anything from me? ive posted quite a bit... every day in fact near enough except for yesterday..

tries to make me scummier by saying I have no vote atm.. if he looks back I have had a few of them Furs post is nothing but a quick bandwagon jump in an attempt to push a lynch.

vote:Furcolow

if you look at this, he does NOT want me to be cleared... both scum didnt want me cleared either and both pursued me.. this is also Furs first mention or attack on me since day1... why wait to now to bring it up again? seems a rather long time to hold your opinion does it not?

he states he had not heard enough from me... I was very active day 1 posting a lot.. and posted every day (real time not game day)

wanna explain, Fur?

[jasonT1981]

Aside from my trip to London I was on every day.. also this

Guys, I am really sorry. But I am on V/LA as of now. I am getting an early night and leaving tomorrow morning and won't be back home until Tuesday afternoon/evening.. depending on how late I get back into Belfast on monday night.

cute you can't defend yourself, because you're "v/la"
sure.
for some reason, I don't believe this.

He knew I was V/LA... called fake on it.. then said I wasnt posting enough...despite knowing I was V/LA and had been posting when I was not V/LA

[Sotty7]

Percy, I am having serious flash backs to AA. Help me.

[jasonT1981]

I always knew there was a secret Alcoholic in you lol

[Sotty7]

In other news I'm gonna ISO my top suspects (Mina, Thor and Nul) so I can figure out where my vote goes. I may or may not respond some more to Nul's train wreck, we'll see.

[Furcolow]

i DID explain
do you not read?
go read my post about AGar
you were trying to jump on and get town cred
you are the last scum

[Furcolow]

i meant 1152 earlier
you quoted your OMGUS
your reasoning was forced after you wanted to OMGUS and is invalid

[Furcolow]

Aside from my trip to London I was on every day.. also this

Guys, I am really sorry. But I am on V/LA as of now. I am getting an early night and leaving tomorrow morning and won't be back home until Tuesday afternoon/evening.. depending on how late I get back into Belfast on monday night.

cute you can't defend yourself, because you're "v/la"
sure.
for some reason, I don't believe this.

He knew I was V/LA... called fake on it.. then said I wasnt posting enough...despite knowing I was V/LA and had been posting when I was not V/LA

um... my reply to you was 5 minutes after you made that post...
you went to london in 5 minutes?

[jasonT1981]

So are you going to adress as to why you're acusing me of easy waggoning when you were on every one yourself? are you going to address as to why you have not said anything more about me since day 1?

[Furcolow]

i wagon as town
it is in my meta
i do not know your meta

[Furcolow]

um... address WHAT?
i was on both fucking wagons
want me to quote mongoose trying to start one on me?
if you can find me specific incidents where there is no way in hell scum would have reacted towards you the way they did, by all means, i will unvote. i'm not going to do your work for you.

[jasonT1981]

Aside from my trip to London I was on every day.. also this

Guys, I am really sorry. But I am on V/LA as of now. I am getting an early night and leaving tomorrow morning and won't be back home until Tuesday afternoon/evening.. depending on how late I get back into Belfast on monday night.

cute you can't defend yourself, because you're "v/la"
sure.
for some reason, I don't believe this.

He knew I was V/LA... called fake on it.. then said I wasnt posting enough...despite knowing I was V/LA and had been posting when I was not V/LA

um... my reply to you was 5 minutes after you made that post...
you went to london in 5 minutes?

my point is you were callign BS on my V/LA.. yes you posted 5 mins after i posted my V/LA so what? that does not change anything. fact of the matter is that was my last post until i returned.. you also accused me of not posting enough when aside from my V/LA I had been posting every day.

[jasonT1981]

um... address WHAT?
i was on both fucking wagons
want me to quote mongoose trying to start one on me?
if you can find me specific incidents where there is no way in hell scum would have reacted towards you the way they did, by all means, i will unvote. i'm not going to do your work for you.

you were on ALL wagons of lynches! is the point i am making to cuounter your argument I was easy waggoning. whats Mongoose got to do with this? I am talking specifically the lynch wagons that you were on all off... yet accuse me of easy wagonning.

[jasonT1981]

fur, im not going to argue anymore with you, ive made my points.. you have made yours.. ive countered your arguements, your countering mine.. our fight will end up taking over this game and take away from being able to find the last scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Does anyone find it funny that most of Kscope's posts usually consists of one sentence along the lines of 'lynch x'


and hes been playing for

4

6 years

hahahahaaaha

Fixed.

Where is your Percy vote btw?

[Nul]

Still no reply, I feel so lonelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >:(
I guess I might as well type some answers that you guys will probably ask since we're probably on a different time zone.

Here are my player analysis:

Benmage

I really doubt he'd be scum seeing as his first post AND also the first post in this thread is:

Man, I was really hoping to be scum this game

I really, really, really don't think a scum did type that for obvious reasons.
And if you aren't satisfied with that, look at the interactions between Benmage and the confirmed scums. Not to mention the fact that Dry-fit's FIRST post was directed at Benmage.
Verdict... Cleared.

KaleiÐoscøpe

Attracting far too much attention with his posts and has made it clear that his entire existence on mafiascum is one thing and one thing only... Pushing wagons on people.
Also take note of the fact that Dry-fit's first vote was on Kscope.
Interactions with confirmed scums are evident throughout the early phase of the game.
He is also one of the first that pushed a wagon on Dry-fit thus more suspicion reduced.
Unless he suffers from some kind of personality disorder, I'd say the chances of him being scum are equivalent to the chance of picking out scum from the list randomly.
Verdict... Cleared.

Percy

Answers a question from Mongoose in post #67 when he could had easily let someone else answer.
But yes, his interactions with the confirmed scums are minimal AND his activity is little thus raising the probability of him being scum. However his average posts per day is two and that seems to be fine.

Take a look at post #195.

Townreads
mongoose
jasonT1981
Elmo
Oso
I Am Innocent
KaleiÐoscøpe
Locke Lamora

Let's just say for argument's sakes that Percy IS actually scum... Now take another look at the list...
Would he actually REALLY put his scum partner NUMBER ONE on his townreads??
That is just SOOOOO unlikely. I, for one, would obviously put my scum partner either on scummy or unsure. If I had to put a scum partner on townreads I would try to mix him into the list to blend in with my post.
Yes people.
The chances of Percy being scum has just dropped BUT the possibility is still there.
Verdict... 32% of being scum.

I Am Innocent

Interaction with scum: post #63.
Chances of being scum: reduced.
Makes a selfish and inexperienced action of voting himself. Again, chances of him being scum are reduced seeing as he joined mafiascum this year.
I actually attempted to self-lynch in order to trade life with a player I thought was scum in my first mafia game. Needless to say he turned out to be scum at the end.
In post #123, Mongoose actually does a character analysis of IaI although it was short. Chances of being scum are again reduced.
Verdict... Cleared.

jasonT1981

Interaction with scum: post #94.
Dry-fit votes jason: post #159.
Dry-fit accuses jason: post #181.
The funny thing is that jason completely ignores both Dry-fit's accusations. I guess this wasn't on purpose since he seem pretty clueless as to what's going on during the early stage of the game but that's one of the reason why he's number 5 on my list otherwise he'd be looking pretty good.
Not much to comment on but a reread has put made me think he deserves a bit more suspicion.
Also I wanna quote this post just for entertainment purposes (... and to support my statement that jason was pretty clueless during the early stage of the game):

unvote
vote: Nik

flat out lie. He is not a day cop.. If he was, he would know my proper role and not that I am mafia.

LOL. I actually flicked back to page one to make sure that I wasn't the one confused but god damn it if he is scum, he is a brilliant actor and deserves applause for taking a risk at being the "oh poor clueless me" townie.

Mina

Votes mongoose at post #110 (which is Mina's third post in the game) and also has several interactions with scums.
Although I have no idea why she pulled out.
Might have to raise Mina's probability to around 10% after a reread. I'll do some more investigation on her tomorrow.

Furcolow

mongoose votes furcolow in post #177.
votes dry-fit in post #168.
conclusion: low possibilities of being scum

sotty7

no interactions with confirmed scums during early stage till a point later in the game where i think he realized that both his scum partners are inexperienced and drawing too much attention and thus tries furiously to push the wagon to perhaps clear all suspicion

thor

dry-fit joins his wagon in post #159 which could go either way
1) nikanor is scum and dry-fit is trying to help him push the wagon
2) according to point three most scums will try to avoid suspecting the same people at the early game
and since i've already proven point three to be more common, i guess it is more likely case 2

got no time gtg already spent an hr writing this
will write more tmr

[Nul]

Ok im back on my ipod touch cos my parents kicked me off the laptop but illl still be awake for the next 10 mins so feel free to ask me any questions (as u can c if is really hard to type on a ipod touch with 2 sec delay on pressing the keys wtf

[Nul]

And theres alot more to prove furcolow isnt scum i just had no time

[Nul]

Also.. this is 1159 and it was not by you.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14701

Another thread where scums purposely avoid voting/suspecting the same people.
The scums are: nobody special, haylen, twomz
The first vote count with majority of people voting looks like this:

VOTE COUNT

Andrius (1): mothrax
animorpherv1 (3): Zajnet,

Twomz

Bunnylover (1): InflatablePie
Haylen (1): seth
InflatablePie (1): SpyreX
MehPlusRawr (2): TheLonging, SaintKerrigan
Nobody Special (1), MehPlusRawr
Nachomamma8 (1):

Nobody Special

SaintKerrigan (1): Bunnylover
seth (2): Phaen, Me=Weird
TheLonging (1): Nachomamma8
Twomz (1): Andrius
Not voting (3): animorpherv1,

Haylen

, Kise

So I guess we can say that point three is pretty damn accurate in most cases.
I seriously picked these threads at random by the way.

the nearest post by you to it was 1152.....followed by next 1171...

so please, show me because 1159 was not yours nor were you anywhere close to a post there!

yea i wasnt in dat game i just went n clikd sub forum of this topic which is theme park , scrolled down n cliked a complete game , took note of who were scums then browsed thru til i reached a votecount where a majority of the ppl had placed a vote

and no if u think dat finding one game where scums vote the same ppl debunks my whole theory because as i sed not everyone will follow these rules

[Nul]

By rules i mean trends