Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[AKnottedRope]

Did the mod Pm you and tell you anything happened to you?

[Ythan]

Bunny you are ridiculous. I would tell you to pay attention but you're getting lynched so

[Beefster]

Beefster please talk about something other than pointless hypotheticals.

How about a scum list? I need to post more of these.

Scum (in descending order of scumminess):
-Bunny (for insisting on attacking confirmed masons)
-Vezok (for voting opportunistically on bunny)
-DGB (Not playing to town meta)
-zwet (bad lurking)
-AKR (I don't remember why)
-Ythan (Potential buddying from bunny)
-DTM (Stretching facts, gut)

@zwet: PLEASE POST SOME CONTENT!

[Bunnylover]

You are impossible! How many times must we tell you that Cupcake cannot be scum!

Just claim so we can have you hang.

I SAID HE WASN'T IN THAT LAST POST X_X.
I was explaining why I put her in that categorize when I made the post. I should have made that clear, sorry about that.
This was where I said I was wrong about my read: And as I've been proven wrong out, no long one of my reads as she move to the town reads although I do not like her play at all and this whole confirmed thing is what she is riding on.
Although I need to start pre-reading my post so they are actually readable =/.

[vezokpiraka]

I do consider BL scummy and I am V/La but I found a network connection but I am not sure how reliable it is and I didn't know about it before.

I keep up with the game but I have nothing new to add. DTM is doing a great job of saying things and I usually vote people who I find scummy and there is enough support on them.

[mothrax]

Bunny, it might help if you put a line space between your main points.

[DrippingGoofball]

Substrike22

(3): JaBOC,

Exilon

,

Kdub

Just A Bit Off-Center

(1):

Le Cupcake

Ythan (1):

Nikanor

Lady Lambdadelta

(3): zwetschenwasser,

chesskid3

,Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

chesskid3

(13):

Substrike22

,

JMJ3000

,

GandalfIzSik

,

Fate

, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Chronopie,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Untrod Tripod

, mothrax
diddin (1): DTmaster
Mothrax (1): ZazieR
Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy"
Not voting: Kairyuu/Beefster,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

,

Aikage

, Ythan

One purple scum:

(15 points each color)
Bunnylover
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
Chronopie
mothrax

Ythan (4):

Le Cupcake

,

Nikanor

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Chronopie

Le Cupcake

(6):

Substrike22

, Ythan,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

Exilon

,

Blooderection

,

chesskid3

, zwetschenwasser

Lady Lambdadelta

(2): Kairyuu/Beefster,

Fate

Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy",

Aikage

Mothrax (1): ZazieR
EvilPacman (1): JaBOC

chesskid3

(2): mothrax,

GandalfIzSik

Blooderection

(1): DTMaster
GandalfIzSik (1):

Kdub

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, ABR,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, Bunnylover, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Untrod Tripod

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka/, Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

1/2 purple scum:

(25 points)
Ythan
zwetschenwasser

Le Cupcake

(1):

Untrod Tripod

Lady Lambdadelta

(2):

Blooderection

nameloc1986

(2): "Fluffy", "Bridget",

Aikage

Blooderection

(1): mothrax
GandalfIzSik (14):

Kdub

, zwetschenwasser,

RayFrost

,

Fate

, ABR,

Le Cupcake

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Exilon

, Bunnylover,Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

,

Nikanor

,Kairyuu/Beefster, Chronopie,

Substrike22

, Ythan,

JMJ3000

Substrike22

(5):evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

chesskid3

, DTMaster, JaBOC,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

GandalfIzSik

Not voting: diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

One purple scum:

(15 points)
zwetschenwasser
ABR
Bunnylover
Kairyuu/Beefster
Chronopie
Ythan

nameloc1986

(3): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot

Substrike22

(9): ABR, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Substrike22

,

RayFrost

,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,Kairyuu/Beefster,

Nikanor

Blooderection

(5):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

, Ythan,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax
Dekes (1): DTMaster

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka,

Aikage

,

Kdub

, Chronopie, Bunnylover

One purple scum:

(50 purple points)
Ythan
mothrax

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(7): ABR, evilpacman18 /Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Kairyuu/Beefster, Ythan

Blooderection

(7):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax,

RayFrost

,

Substrike22

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Kdub

(1):

Nikanor

mothrax (1): DTMaster
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

,

Kdub

, Chronopie, Bunnylover

Two purple scums:

(100 purple points)
mothrax
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(2): Ythan,

Kdub

Blooderection

(13):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax,

Substrike22

,

Nikanor

, Chronopie, Kairyuu/Beefster, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

RayFrost

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

KnightofCydonia

(2):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
mothrax (1): DTMaster

Aikage

(1): evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

One purple scum:

(20 points each color)
mothrax
Chronopie
Kairyuu/Beefster
Bunnylover
ABR

=============================

TOTALS
185 mothrax
115 diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
90 Ythan
50 Bunnylover
50 ABR
40 zwet
35 Kairyuu/Beefster
35 Chronopie
15 evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
15 Chronopie

Looks like mothrax need be dead.

VOTE: mothrax

[Reckamonic]

PLUSHIE: "Yay yay yay yay yay yay!"
BIG DADDY: "What's got you all excited?"
PLUSHIE: "Guess!"
BIG DADDY: "Uh... Christmas?"
PLUSHIE: "Nope!"
BIG DADDY: "Uhm... the fact that you're coming to see me in 12 days, 9 hours, 14 minutes, and 30 seconds?"
PLUSHIE: "Nope!"
BIG DADDY: "THEN WHAT?"
PLUSHIE: "Exams are over!"
BIG DADDY: "Oh. So you're more excited about THAT than Christmas and coming to see me? Jerk."

DGB (3): zwets, bunnylover, Mothrax
Bunnylover (6): Lady Lambdadelta, Le Cupcake, Albert B. Rampage, vezokpiraka, Beefster, Chronopie
Beefster (0): DTMaster
mothrax (1): DrippingGoofball

Not voting: Ythan, AKnottedRope

VEZOKPIRAKA HAS A FROG ON HIS HEAD!

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch!
Deadline is the 7th of January.
Prodding zwets.

[Beefster]

@DGB: is there any reason why you didn't mention the gray scums in your vote analysis?

[DrippingGoofball]

Is that a scum group or a SK or a survivor thingie?

[DrippingGoofball]

If the gray stuff is a scumgroup, one of Ythan and zwet is almost guaranteed to be a gray scum, in addition to high likelihood of being purple scum.

But I don't think Ythan is scum.

zwet might very well be, miller claim and convenient abilities.

But the suspicion on mothrax applies no matter what.

I have to leave now, more when I return.

[Beefster]

Gray is definitely a scum faction. Look at the flip. It appears to be the boss-scum faction.

Why don't you think Ythan is scum?

Good point about zwet, though.

[Beefster]

Kdub [BONGO BONGO],

Boss Area of Effect Redirector

, killed N3[/b]

Yeah. That. Boss faction right there.

[DTMaster]

Immediate responses.

1. Ythan: Ohhhhh that'd be clever. Then my voting bloc idea might not work then :<.

2. I'll make note of that LLD, when I reread. I'll do a quick Iso read then skim over in context to see where BL didn't produce the case. At the moment my rose coloured glasses show the attacks came from the Cupcake attacks.

3. BL it's mod confirmed that the mods are not going to lie.

How bastardly is slightly bastardly?

We're not going to directly lie to you in the role PMs, a la Reck's Mad Mad Mad Mind.
That's all we're promising.

Also the mod claimed

that it's possible that he could lie in our PMs in terms of Mason confirmed alignment

Erm... Deny?
In this game, a mason is alignment confirmed. This isn't a bastard mod like CEBM

Cupcake is mod confirmed both in role and in thread. Lol thanks mods.

4. Please elaborate on why?

Also BL too late QUICKHAMMMDARD TIME LOLZ

Unvote, Vote Bunnylover

[DTMaster]

EBWOP: err for 4 that applies to AKR since he just said: He finds BL scummy but I've been asking him to elaborate why.

[DTMaster]

Anyways Beefster if you believe I'm stretching the facts, by default you must believe my points are invalid. You agree with me though. Why?

You said my points were logical and that you couldn't counter them. But if I'm stretching the facts, that means I'm misrepresenting you. That also means I'm stretching invalid arguments to paint you as guilty. But you wrote in thread that my points are valid.

How can you say that I'm stretching the truth but be valid at the same time? You're contradicting yourself here in this argument.

[Beefster]

Anyways Beefster if you believe I'm stretching the facts, by default you must believe my points are invalid. You agree with me though. Why?

Not all of them. Even the biggest liar tells the truth every now and then.

You said my points were logical and that you couldn't counter them. But if I'm stretching the facts, that means I'm misrepresenting you. That also means I'm stretching invalid arguments to paint you as guilty. But you wrote in thread that my points are valid.

How can you say that I'm stretching the truth but be valid at the same time? You're contradicting yourself here in this argument.

They're never the same arguments. Some arguments are completely valid, while others are slight stretching of the facts. I guess it does look like I lump them all together, so I understand your confusion.

For the most part, your arguments against me are pretty understandable and thus valid. Whereas some of your arguments, on Aikage for instance, were in fact stretching the facts. You probably aren't in the same faction, but you get the idea.

[AKnottedRope]

Did the mod Pm you and tell you anything happened to you?

Beefster, this needs an answer. Badly.

DTM: I need beefster to answer this before I do anything, so hold off for a sec.

[mothrax]

@AKR if you are implying what I think, it is possible your vote came too late(after the rolling attack)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo DGB!

Nice way to leave yourself off all the vote counts you accumulated "scum points" for.

[AKnottedRope]

@AKR if you are implying what I think, it is possible your vote came too late(after the rolling attack)

Hm... Maybe.

[DTMaster]

1. Beef I sum up in your own words that you agreed with my end analysis of Aikage here as well. Thus your second example is quite invalid. Unless you're taking that back.

Umm... Beefster like I said

what is new that we learned that I haven't outlined other then Aikage is reading like a 100% idiot for doing a night action with his day action

. There isn't. I was basing my assumption on AIKAGE'S PLAY not his ROLE. His PLAY reads as NEWB. I'M INCORPORATING HIS PR STATUS as a NEWB PLAYER with a PR.

Beefster

why aren't you commenting on Aikage

? Why the fuck aren't you making a judgement call? You sir WON AND GOT AIKAGE TO CLAIM. You sir were pushing for A SCUM CASE on AIKAGE. This is what I'm ANGRY ABOUT. You sir WHO PUSHES FOR A CLAIM DIDN'T BOTHER EVEN READING AND ANALYZING YOUR HARD EARNED RESULTS THAT I ALREADY POSTED IN THREAD 2 WEEKS AGO.

YOU SIR ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT AIKAGE'S ROLE IS THAT YOU IGNORE THE IMPLICATIONS ON WHY AIKAGE DID HIS ACTIONS. YOU SIR IGNORED THE KEY POINTS IN MY DEFENSE THAT SHOWED AIKAGE WAS BEHAVING IDIOTICALLY ALL GAME.

Oh wait, YOU NEEDED A FULL CLAIM TO DO THAT. You IGNORED MY ANALYSIS ABOUT HIS MOTIVES BECAUSE HE BEHAVED LIKE A NEWB. YOU SAID MY POINTS WERE INVALIDATED BECAUSE AIKAGE CHOSE NOT TO CLAIM AND THIS INFORMATION WAS REQUIRED. RIGHT NOW YOU LOOK LIKE SCUM PUSHING FOR A CLAIM. MAKE YOUR FINAL JUDGEMENT CALL.

No more ALL CAPS, okay? His claim is consistent with the facts. It explains some of his play. You seem on the spot for the rest of his play. I didn't think I really needed to spell that out.

Also I read AKR plans, and this to me is conflicting with my read on him (i.e. PR declarations like this are generally someone who has some infos). I'll wait for the results, though Mothrax might be right and if he wanted to inflict something on Beefster by being targetted it might be too late. It's clear that I lost my vote, but AKR didn't.

[DTMaster]

I'll reread when I get home I'm at work atm :S. Retail + Christmas = awful.

[DrippingGoofball]

Gray is definitely a scum faction. Look at the flip. It appears to be the boss-scum faction.

If it's flavr-related, I'll take your word for it.[/quote]

Why don't you think Ythan is scum?

Mega-gut.

Good point about zwet, though.

I know, I know.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yo DGB!

Nice way to leave yourself off all the vote counts you accumulated "scum points" for.

I know my alignment.