Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Reckamonic]

Mod: Are you allowed to confirm a mod error in the format of the claim DGB posted?

I wouldn't use the term mod error, but KoC didn't have the name of who he was replacing in his PM either.

[Ythan]

AW SHIT SON

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Thank you Mod.

Ok, that solves that problem. If there are no other complaints about DGB (outside of the ones stated about me not liking her form of vote count analysis as scumhunting) then I think this has run its course.

[Ythan]

Al had more to say about her but nobody has picked up on it to my knowledge.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would never have supported DGB here without solid information. Yes, I have more than gut/opinion.

For now, I'll UNVOTE: . This can be dealt with later, and if you are vouching for DGB, then it's not worth pursing at the moment. We can always check that later.

I want to hear more from Mothrax and AKR. Supposedly something happened last night that has made them suspect each other?

P-Edit: I saw something about Sheeping DTM, but I don't see how she can be sheeping when my main problem with her is how she's putting too much of her opinions out into the town as fact. The two problems can't co-exist.

[Ythan]

Lady I am so proud of you right now! I take back everything I said. Actually I shift it to Cupcake.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Lady I am so proud of you right now! I take back everything I said. Actually I shift it to Cupcake.

Look. I'm not as stupid as you paint me to be >.<

I recognize the importance of pushing wagons and seeing where they lead.

Especially since not a soul in this game want to go ISO 150 pages of material.

So at this point, if anything seems off, I'm going to throw my vote at it. It's a tool, and should be used as one. Applying pressure, whether the outcome shows town or scum tendencies is never a bad thing. So long as you don't tunnel, and know when to back down.

There is nothing left to pursue, so I'm moving on.

[Ythan]

Was Beefster confirmed yes or no.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well... Not Role Confirmed, if that's what you're asking.

Cupcake had some kind of Meta-confirmation on the two millers, stating that it worked in the set up given.

Now that Beefster flipped town miller, Cupcake feels that Zwet is still confirmed, because it is now shown that a child boss claim has flipped miller.

The second "confirmation" on Zwet is much better than the first one using Meta...

[Ythan]

Pretty sure Cupcake wasn't the one to come up with that. I may have been the first person to say it, if you mean child-bosses-town/adult-bosses-scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Regardless, there is no outside conclusive proof that showed Beef as confirmed town.

[Ythan]

We had him claiming to be a child boss. Who is it that said this morning that he had been confirmed town..

[Ythan]

What a surprise that beefster died after we confirmed him as town last day though.

Oh nevermind, it was Cupcake.

[mothrax]

I am waiting for a seal of approval or hint as such if he is so inclined to disclose any more information on the matter.

[DTMaster]

Sorry I've been away I will be catching up now.

[DTMaster]

I find it odd that people did not discuss the possibility of busing (and even redirection but we have 2 re-directors flipped). We know based on Exlion's actions the frog does work. I find it more likely that the frog is working, and assuming DGB targetted Ythan we have the possiblity that DGB's action was redirected/bussed to Beefster.

It's possible that multiple people hit Beefster.

[DTMaster]

I also think ABR is town with the quote pulling.

[DTMaster]

Ok. I understand. There is a heavy softclaim that confirms DGB's actions that fits with my above ideal. Also if I'm reading it correctly Cupcake is playing the game through the QT (I'm slightly less mad). I'm confused though that Cupcake fingered DGB as boss-scum instead of just scum (implied information via roles). The popular theory is that Ythan is defending his scum buddy. (Though I don't know how Poe scum came into play here)

Tl;dr: We have possible role information that capture's DGB's action as correct via Ythan since he believes DGB statement. We have possible role information from Masons.

If the above implications are correct, then it's possible that we have scum caught in a cross fire (similar to Kingdom Hearts Mafia where we had two scum tunneled into each other. We might have something similar where we have role actions from different scum overlapping)

1. DGB since you full claimed I would like for you to claim your actions and ask the mod for your predecessor's actions.
2. I would like the masons to converse and discuss the possibility of a mass claim. I implied the above based on the specific faction naming but if it's a scum read then don't mass claim . However DGB still is a good suspect due to the meta reads.

[Katsuki]

@DTM: Massclaim is not needed yet. DGB is scum.

[Le Cupcake]

@DTM: Massclaim is not needed yet. DGB is scum.

@LLD: I hate to keep saying this, but check QT.

[Le Cupcake]

Regardless, there is no outside conclusive proof that showed Beef as confirmed town.

There was.

[Le Cupcake]

Mind as well shine a little light on the DGB matter.

Firstly, her fakeclaim PM is terribly constructed. A sage does not have a different role-name from their sage name (in this case, Kaepora Gabora), from their sage name (Rauru). Secondly, there is still one scum-sage remaining anyways, so it seems that DGB is the one.
Then there is the fact that one of her abilities is eerily similar to one of mine, and I doubt there'd be two similar protective roles present amongst town, considering that we are pretty much town's main protective power.

I do not believe there is any need for the other sage to claim.

[Le Cupcake]

Passive Abilities:

Sage of Light

- If investigated, your identity will show up as

Rauru

.

This is pretty much straight out of a fakeclaim. Remember substrike anyone?

[Ythan]

I find it odd that people did not discuss the possibility of busing (and even redirection but we have 2 re-directors flipped).

I believe I did.

The popular theory is that Ythan is defending his scum buddy.

Hardly popular.

@DTM: Massclaim is not needed yet. DGB is scum.

Because? Oh right you're tunneling.

Regardless, there is no outside conclusive proof that showed Beef as confirmed town.

There was.

Too bad you never did post it and never will explain it.

The owl isn't the sage. He's a reincarnation of the sage. If you knew anything about the game we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[DrippingGoofball]

I find it odd that people did not discuss the possibility of busing (and even redirection but we have 2 re-directors flipped). We know based on Exlion's actions the frog does work. I find it more likely that the frog is working, and assuming DGB targetted Ythan we have the possiblity that DGB's action was redirected/bussed to Beefster.

But then, Beefster shouldn't have died.