Furcolow wrote:waiting on a wagon to vote.
haha the irony!
note he does NOT want me to be cleared... easy lynch as I was under a lot of pressure at the time due to fake cop claim reaction. Also a reaction to a legit V/LA that the mod and some players knew aboutjasonT1981 wrote:sorry, have not been on as much been packing for London and had friends over to the house so not spent much time on here. I would suspect there is scum on my wagon as it seems an easy lynch now especially with how my words are twisted... Scum suspects are IAI, Elmo and Fur.. this post is all wrong in my opinion
He DOESNT want me to be cleared? why???? because it will actually mean him to scumhunt or look elsewhere.. as I said, I am the popular wagon.. this all feels like a easy jump on to me.Furcolow wrote:unvote;
vote: jasont1981
i don't want him to be cleared
if he was scum he would have made the same defense he made
i haven't heard anything from him, and i read nikanor as town
we can take our time, there is no rush. even if we don't get a lynch by halloween, or if we do, the day will still keep going.
We have about 2 weeks still to lynch, so this isn't damning, but JasonT should have his vote out somewhere by now. I am happy to lynch him because I feel if he was town his vote would besomewhere.
Has not heard anything from me? ive posted quite a bit... every day in fact near enough except for yesterday..
tries to make me scummier by saying I have no vote atm.. if he looks back I have had a few of them Furs post is nothing but a quick bandwagon jump in an attempt to push a lynch.
vote:Furcolow
also this, too big to quoteFurcolow wrote:cute you can't defend yourself, because you're "v/la"jasonT1981 wrote:Guys, I am really sorry. But I am on V/LA as of now. I am getting an early night and leaving tomorrow morning and won't be back home until Tuesday afternoon/evening.. depending on how late I get back into Belfast on monday night.
sure.
for some reason, I don't believe this.
scum slip in bold?Furcolow wrote:he's not my partner
i have no idea as of his alignment
i just dont want to mislynch
vote: dry-fit
That's not a smart play for either scum or town to offer, so I'm not sure what you expect my conclusion of it to be. How about you instead address my logic for clearing furc instead of just dismissing it by calling it fail - I'm sure in that giant wall o' text on furc you addressed those points already.Equinox wrote:I bet my own lynch on this.Deal?
And then Furcolow jumped right back on jasonT1981 as if he never suspected Dry-fit at all:Furcolow wrote:Remember when furc sort of blindly lumbered onto the Dry-fit wagon "following his heart" as his only real logic and then suggested Dry-fit should be quicklynched? Quicklynched! Dry-fit had just then managed to barely tie with the other top wagon, and furc had left the alternate top competing wagon (on jasonT who had "scumslipped" remember that?) to try to get Dry-fit lynched.
In the third commentary track, Equinox wrote:In post [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2601221#p2601221]267[/url], Furcolow wrote:i likeddry-fits#257
I'll assume he meant post 255, which was indeed written by Dry-fit, since Benmage's 257 is about scum advantage in mountainous games in general. Eh. On the surface, if you didn't pay any attention to the game at all, Dry-fit's post does look like it makes sense, with the comment about the RedCoyote wagon tacked on the end. Oh, hey, wait a minute. What the hell happened to Furcolow's suspicion of Dry-fit, anyway?
(This is why I'm taking so fucking long.) Isolation of Furcolow reveals: Post 168 (iso 17), votes for Dry-fit presumably on gut. Post 183 (iso 18), happy with a "quicklynch" of Dry-fit. Post 185 (iso 19), explains his vote on Dry-fit. Post 196 (iso 20), buddies Percy and asks him to join wagon against Dry-fit. Post 212 (iso 21), Dry-fit is still suspicious. Etc., etc. Post 230 (iso 27), of {jasonT1981, imkingdavid, Furcolow}, Furcolow thinks jasonT1981 is most likely to be scum.*
* = {jasonT1981, imkingdavid, Furcolow} taken from Oso's 229.
Continuing Furcolow isolation. Post 233 (iso 28), Furcolow votes jasonT1981. Dry-fit has completely vanished from this guy's reads. In the meantime, Furcolow continues tunneling jasonT1981 and even attacks him for going V/LA. Post 267 (iso 33), where I am now, Furcolow "likes" Dry-fit's post. And there's really nothing Dry-fit said between 212 and 230 that could break a scum read.
jasonT1981 wrote:Sotty7 wrote:Jason, give me your strongest scum and town reads in your next post. Just a couple will do, reasons why not expected but welcome.
Fur
Dry-fit
Baby Spice.
I feel Fur and Dry are clinging to 'my sumslip' and still wanting to push it. BS has come in making accusations of others and once again pushing cases that many are satisifed have been explained. As well as trying to push dirt onto players.
What do you exactly mean by the underlined?Thor665 wrote:I would be willing to make a deal that we lynch you and that if game continues and furc lives to tomorrow I'll consider him as a potential suspectalong with everyone else. Is that a deal?
Furcolow wrote:so you are attacking your attackers
that's totally town bro
i believe you're a VI honestly
town-vi, jason
1. I promise to do this sometime tomorrow and offer thoughts. I find his aggressive willingness to vote anyone to be a town tell though. (not a good play tell, but still )I Am Innocent wrote:Thor, please reread Posts 323 - 374 and tell me that Furc pushed hard on Dry Fit, I instead see him unvote him multiple times, once at L-1, pushing other lynches like RC.
Speaking of this, look at this post by jasonT. If we are right about Furc, major props on that call! (PS - look at how Furc responds to this post by jasonT, calls him a VI...)
Just that. If I end up in the double lynch mylo tomorrow I'm going to need to reassess everything I currently hold as true in this game.I Am Innocent wrote:What do you exactly mean by the underlined?Thor665 wrote:I would be willing to make a deal that we lynch you and that if game continues and furc lives to tomorrow I'll consider him as a potential suspectalong with everyone else. Is that a deal?
I'm actually not sure how to classify strength of a read. I'll go with weaker than the ones on you, Ben, and jason, probably equivalent to the IAI read.Equinox wrote:Thor665, how strong is your read on Furcolow?
Assuming Furc is scum, Jason calls out all 3 scum at that point. Furc immediately follows that up with a VI comment towards Jason. Sounds like an attempt to discredit Jason imo, who is onto all 3 scum right there...Thor665 wrote:1. I promise to do this sometime tomorrow and offer thoughts. I find his aggressive willingness to vote anyone to be a town tell though. (not a good play tell, but still )I Am Innocent wrote:Thor, please reread Posts 323 - 374 and tell me that Furc pushed hard on Dry Fit, I instead see him unvote him multiple times, once at L-1, pushing other lynches like RC.
Speaking of this, look at this post by jasonT. If we are right about Furc, major props on that call! (PS - look at how Furc responds to this post by jasonT, calls him a VI...)
2. I'm not sure i follow your point here. jasonT says he suspects furc and furc claims a town read on jason, what's the evidence in that for furc being scum?
Furc is one of those up and down reads, and the only town tell for him is he's always reckless....but his tailend voting on both scum wagons and then trying to right that off as a towntell looks like (possibly) shitty scum bussing.Thor665 wrote:@Ben - any particular reasoning on that one, I thought me and Equi were your last two?
Bold portion is incorrect. mongoose was on the opposing side:Thor665 wrote:@IAI - So you seriously thinkall three scum were trying to push through a jason mislynchwith the logic of a weak scumslip (from two of them) and nothing much at all from the last? I'll admit if that's the scumteam it's not the most dangerous scum team ever, but I'm still pretty sure they understand the basic concept of not all pushing a single mislynch at the same time.
mongoose wrote:jason's thing about the cop seems kinda pointless. People make mistake and I dont think the fact that he didn't read the set up makes him scum. TBH I forgot the game had no PR's as well.
Thanks for doing that, I just haven't had the time.Equinox wrote:Bold portion is incorrect. mongoose was on the opposing side:Thor665 wrote:@IAI - So you seriously thinkall three scum were trying to push through a jason mislynchwith the logic of a weak scumslip (from two of them) and nothing much at all from the last? I'll admit if that's the scumteam it's not the most dangerous scum team ever, but I'm still pretty sure they understand the basic concept of not all pushing a single mislynch at the same time.
mongoose wrote:jason's thing about the cop seems kinda pointless. People make mistake and I dont think the fact that he didn't read the set up makes him scum. TBH I forgot the game had no PR's as well.