Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Albert B. Rampage]

DGB is now at L-1. Wait for DTM to use his vig before the hammer. Thanks.

Why do you want DTM to

waste a vig shot

when

I can just as easily be hammered

, scum?

WHY?

I was thinking more along the lines of AKR, actually.

[Ythan]

When 5/8ths of remaining town is scum, I think it does Ythan.

Except you're not particularly...

[DrippingGoofball]

but if Vezok can be shot:

Unvote, Vote: DGB

You ought to unvote me pronto, because when zwet logs in, he will totally hammer before the vig shot, which we will then lose.

Someone needs to unvote me.

Anyone else.

I, for one, would really like to see vezok being vig'ed, I have a hunch vezok is ABR's partner.

What happens if vezok has a role that suggests an ability to mess with the frog or shift or redirect? This may be the only chance we have to avoid my mislynch, I'd very much like to see vezok's flip.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fine.

Unvote

[Albert B. Rampage]

DGB, thoughts on AKR and mothrax?

[AKnottedRope]

God dammit! I had a ton of stuff written and deleted it -.-

AKR why did you want to roleblock Beefster again? Just to clarify.

I thought he was scum. His ability (removing potentially half the town's votes) didn't sound like one a town-aligned player would have. Also, I wasn't convinced that his ability was true, because he never ACTUALLY removed votes from a wagon. So, my intent was twofold: first, I wanted to see if beefster was actually telling the truth regarding his claim and second, I wanted to block an action that I saw as scummy (especially when he targeted you, as I had a townread on you at the time).

ords from AKR/Moth. I'm almost tempted to do a coin flip and pick one of those two.

Really? IIRC, Substrike's real role had no indication that it was unsealable or had anything to do with needing to have another player/faction die to gain power. Given that and Chrono's town flip, how does that not confirm me as town, or at least make me more likely than not? Didn't you yourself say that an Impa claim was insta town? What happened to that? Haven't you also been saying you need to "reread" me, or did that get tossed to the wayside?

I get this feeling that within the remaining 10 players, and the 2 confirmed town, of the 8 remaining, 5 are scum ( 3 Grey Scum in the form of Volvagia, Phantom Ganon and Morpheel + the two remaining purple Poe Scum).

If Mothrax is scum, then there can only be two more boss scum in the game seeing as all the boss scum in the game were presumably sage targets. Only two have not been killed (iirc).

As for the Boss scum remaining, I see there as being one grey scum in the Sage neighborhood

I doubt it, but I wouldn't count it out. I'd lean towards there being another poe scum in the neighborhood if anything (hence my suspicion of Mothrax) seeing as all of us had to target a boss scum to unseal. I just don't think that there would then be boss scum in the neighborhood.

[AKnottedRope]

Also sorry for being MIA for the past few days, been unexpectedly busy.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Vote DGB

[Ythan]

I know it isn't as clear cut when we're looking at two-ish factions, but before night I'd like to see top suspects again.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We're just wasting our time at this point.

DGB vanished, DTM promised to be back 2 days ago and we haven't heard from him since, everybody else lurking.

[Ythan]

Your anti-town is showing. Answer the question and stop trying to stifle others from doing the same.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ladies and gentlemen, as considered by the town, these are our star players from worse to best:

Scummiest
DGB
AKR
Vezok
Ythan
ABR (DGB thinks I'm scum)
Mothrax
Zwet
DTM
Least Scummy

Nobody below me has been attacked all day. Everyone above me has been attacked by at least two players. I have been attacked by one player. That sums it up.

Mod: Prod DTM

[Albert B. Rampage]

Your anti-town is showing. Answer the question and stop trying to stifle others from doing the same.

My top suspects are DGB, AKR, and yourself Ythan. If DGB flips scum, I suspect you most of all. I've made this abundantly clear all day long and I am surprised you need to ask me again.

[Ythan]

I asked you again because you didn't answer the first time. And, there's still the matter of you trying to get the lynch through before the other eight players post.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB vanished, DTM promised to be back 2 days ago and we haven't heard from him since, everybody else lurking.

Come on now, when have I ever vanished from this site? I'm like the paint on the walls.

Why is vezok so high on the list, anyways?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd like everyone to register their opinion of vezok, AKR, ABR, and mothrax.

[Ythan]

I also wonder why he ordered players attacked an equal number of times the way he did. If he did give any further consideration to the order I'd like to know what it is.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, here's my assessment.

For the two Poe Scum, we're looking for a pair. At the moment, obvious one is Ythan/DGB, but I'm not quick to jump to conclusions. If DGB were to flip scum, I'd like Ythan strung up.

Other possible Poe Scum can exist with something like a ABR and DTM pairing. Remember that DTM can easily be Poe scum, despite the pro town actions she has done, because of the larger Grey scum faction.

As for the Boss scum remaining, I see there as being one grey scum in the Sage neighborhood. (To give balance for Substrike). I'm reading that as being AKR right now, but if AKR were to flip town, I'd want to see Mothrax strung up fairly quickly. As for the remaining two, I would place Vezokpiraka in this group, and then:

If DGB is scum, I think ABR is Grey scum. If DGB were to flip town, I'd still call ABR scum here, but with a very slight chance at Ythan being in this group, but HIGHLY unlikely.

If ABR were to flip Poe Scum, (and assuming DGB flips town) then Ythan becomes the third one.



Poe Scum: Ythan/DGB OR ABR/DTM

Boss Scum: (AKR or Mothrax)/Vezok/(ABR or Ythan)

This is all done under the assumption Zwet is misguided but town in his miller claim.

This being said, a

Vote: DGB

is called for.

Also, this isn't lylo I assume. With the largest scum team being 3, a lynch today and two kills tonight will leave us ok with 7 players.

[Ythan]

The only reason anyone is considering me (I'm giving the masons more credit here than to just say they're sheeping ABR) is because I disputed the case against DGB early on when it was stupid.

[DrippingGoofball]

If DGB is scum, I think ABR is Grey scum.

So, you think I'm PURPLE scum? Why. Explain. And why is ABR Gray scum. WHY.

If DGB were to flip town, I'd still call ABR scum here

If ABR is scum regardless of my flip, why haven't you been calmoring for his lynch?

This is all done under the assumption Zwet is misguided but town in his miller claim.

We've got untargetable masons (at least one is a PGO, right?), and an untargetable miller, right? Does that make sense?

[Le Cupcake]

Not really.

Everyone's targettable, just a matter if you want to sacrifice to take zwet out.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan is town. Like, nearly confirmed.

Why on Earth would he stick up for me if he were any sort of scum?

If he were scum, he'd flat out lie, and pretend that he didn't know that I targeted him.

Some of you are supposing that Ythan and I are scum in cahoots. Well, even then... it would be absurd for him to defend me (if we were buddies) in this way, because we'd be giving the two a two for one special.

So Yhan is town, and you can take it to the bank.

[DrippingGoofball]

Everyone's targettable, just a matter if you want to sacrifice to take zwet out.

Refresh my memory plz?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ythan is town. Like, nearly confirmed.

Why on Earth would he stick up for me if he were any sort of scum?

If he were scum, he'd flat out lie, and pretend that he didn't know that I targeted him.

Some of you are supposing that Ythan and I are scum in cahoots. Well, even then... it would be absurd for him to defend me (if we were buddies) in this way, because we'd be giving the two a two for one special.

So Yhan is town, and you can take it to the bank.

And this is in no way preparing for when you flip scum, to give Ythan a shot?

[Le Cupcake]

Yeah yeah we already no ythan is not town kthx.

DGB you're being unusually stubborn this game. Can't you just pull another PYP?