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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:20 pm

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I may be but in general I find scum the favorite. This is magnified 10X when mountainous. If you ask me this is as balanced as a mountainous can be, which in my opinion is still a scum dominated genre. A more competent scum team wins this hands down.

I've also never been caught as scum by anything other than a powerrole...so go figure.
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:21 pm

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may be ...bias*
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:42 pm

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I think I agree with Oso mostly. Scum was in a bad spot after two correct lynches early on but...well, isn't that what happens when own hits that accurate?

The one thing I will say is I don't think scum have such an advantage where day talk should be limited - either the day talk is worth giving them or it isn't (I'd say give it, considering the double lynch mechanic) but frankly the whole half day on/half off business kinda felt confusing and slightly left me off balance as to keeping track of such conversation.
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:11 pm

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That I agree with. Also I think the starting scum team didn't think it through and chose poorly right at the start to have the chat D1P2 not D1P1.

I also think Mina's idea to trim down the town was actually a good one.
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:19 pm

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Thor665 wrote:I think I agree with Oso mostly. Scum was in a bad spot after two correct lynches early on but...well, isn't that what happens when own hits that accurate?

The one thing I will say is I don't think scum have such an advantage where day talk should be limited - either the day talk is worth giving them or it isn't (I'd say give it, considering the double lynch mechanic) but frankly the whole half day on/half off business kinda felt confusing and slightly left me off balance as to keeping track of such conversation.
Yeah, full daytalk might work better with this kind of setup.
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:03 pm

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I'd agree. I consider full day talk to be a scumvantadge, but frankly a double lynch is a solid townvantadge so it feels relatively powered.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:25 am

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Benmage wrote:I've also never been caught as scum by anything other than a powerrole...so go figure.
Not necessarily a PR catch, considering.:P
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:38 am

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VP Baltar wrote:
Benmage wrote:I've also never been caught as scum by anything other than a powerrole...so go figure.
Not necessarily a PR catch, considering.:P
Dayvig doesn't count?
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:30 am

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Not when almost everyone could dayvig!
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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:45 am

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I really wanted to shoot someone in that game :(
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:46 am

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Still :P ...the point isn't that I've never been under suspicion, but try getting a majority on me...not easy.

And I have tried very hard to erase that game from my memory.... traitors on a scum team = fail game.
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:14 am

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Good job town.

Did the scum QT ever get posted?
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:26 am

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Meh, 2 of 3 of the surviving scum team consented, and Dry Fit only ever posted once, so here;
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:00 am

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Thor665 wrote:Meh, 2 of 3 of the surviving scum team consented, and Dry Fit only ever posted once, so here;
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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:09 pm

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I am very happy that we won this game. I would have had a meltdown if we lost this one!
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Thanks again to Zach for a great game, and I had fun playing with you all! :D
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:58 pm

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Mmh. KScope is never a bad lynch. :P

I just now looked through your posts because I had great difficulty finding the case at the time. I don't think her slip was a slip - I just can't really imagine scum blurting that kind of thing out, and I've seen town use that kind of phrasing before. I do think her vote on Lrdwhyt was scummy, actually. I see the argument for but don't really buy into the point about her going after Benmage's early mistake about lynching; it's pretty clear he made a mistake, but remember that IAI did something very similar and he turned out to be town; maybe there's a finer distinction to be made there, but that influenced my view. I think her position against Benmage as "arrogant scum" isn't scummy; I think it's literally possibly true but a dubious position to take, but to me it's believable that a townie would have that reaction to Benmage's general abrasiveness, and I still don't really see any tactical gain from it.
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:09 pm

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Benmage wrote:We got luckyish with baby spice and scum got lucky furclow was town. Both weren't making it to lylo.
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I would have lynched IAI or Thor just the same as you, so
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