Simpsons Mafia (Game Over)

[KageLord]

Btw. Guderian. Are those the only reasons that you're voting me?

Answer now.

... Any other comments on the game since your last post?

I'd be okay with DBE, Hiraki, or maybe jason.

[jasonT1981]

unvote
vote: Nacho

I was going to bring this forward yesterday, but he had only made a few posts on the site since declaring V/LA so left it, but today it is completely clear he is avoiding this game, he has declared V/LA for being ill but is actively posting on the site in other games.

[jasonT1981]

you can check out his posts.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/search.php?a ... 8&sr=posts

[Scott Brosius]

Vote Count 7

Benmage(0)-
boberz(1)- SensFan,
DarlaBlueEyes(4)- KageLord, boberz, tvellalott, Wraith,
Deer(0)-
DemonHybrid(1)- Zang,
diddin(0)-
Fuzzy Beavers(0)-
Guderian(0)-
hiraki(6)- Mariyta, Benmage, Guderian, ribwich, DarlaBlueEyes, DemonHybrid
jasonT1981(4)- sottyrulez, The Fonz, diddin, Nero Cain,
KageLord(1)-Fuzzy Beavers,
LlamaFluff(0)-
Mariyta(0)-
Nachomamma8(1)-jasonT1981,
Nero Cain(1)-Deer,
ribwich(0)-
SensFan(0)-
Sleepless Assassin(1)-LlamaFluff,
sottyrulez(0)-
The Fonz(0)-
Tragedy(1)- Sleepless Assassin,
tvellalott(1)-hiraki,
Wraith(0)-
Zang(0)-

Not Voting(2)- Nachomamma8, Tragedy,

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch. Deadline is January 27th at 1pm (EST)

[jasonT1981]

hmmm Tragedy, is there ANY reason you are yet to put a vote anywhere in this game? just ISO'd you, despite cases against quite a few people... you are not taking a stance on anyone. fence sitting almost.

[sottyrulez]

^ This

Why FOS Sleepless Assassin but not vote?

Need more of... well anything from Nacho, but a vote from him would be nice.

Also

Unvote: Vote: Diddin

This post bothers me. He makes somewhat of a linking argument toward them and states he is suspicious of both, but that Jason flipping scum would reduce his suspicions of Tragedy, which doesn't really make much sense to me in any respect other than scum trying to have an argument more than one way.

[jasonT1981]

hmmm interesting link, Sotty. I touched on it earlier, I notice he accuses me of fence sitting on Darla yet I had already said she was one of my top scum suspects.

How is naming Darla as one of my top suspects fence sitting?

[jasonT1981]

@Mod: Can I request another prod on Nacho? it is quite clear that he is posting elsewhere on this site and has been posting more, elsewhere since I mentioned it a few hours ago.

Yeah I can mention something.

[sottyrulez]

Yeah, found some meta here.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2325254

Still stand by your vote on this basis Jason?

[jasonT1981]

Hmm i forgot about that game.. there is one glaring difference though in that game and this, if you look at his ISO in that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... lect=11658

your linked post is dated June 19th, you will see that before he went missing he was making contributions to the game, and started to again when returning to game. something he has not done here at all.

My vote stays until I see content from him.

[The Fonz]

unvote

Sotty, do you think that something failing once means it's invalid? The main thing I take away from that meta is that Jason makes these kind of votes as town.

[sottyrulez]

unvote

Sotty, do you think that something failing once means it's invalid? The main thing I take away from that meta is that Jason makes these kind of votes as town.

I think it demonstrates an unreliability in the tell when applied in this case. The assertion that Nacho is more likely scum because he's not posting in this game while posting in others. My experience with Nacho specifically in the linked game indicates that what game he's posting in or what game he's ignoring doesn't seem to have much to do with his alignment, but rather other factors.

I was interested in confronting Jason with the point because I wanted to see how he'd react to it.

[Benmage]

I've been pretty busy RL atm, I need to put some quality time into this thread. I've been skimming when able and am still happy with the hiraki lynch.

[Tragedy]

Vote: Sleepless Assassin

FoS has been removed temporarily, until Sleepless Assassin removes his vote from me or does something more/less suspicious.

[Wraith]

Skimmed diddin's ISO. Looks confusing, like a paranoid player pointing the finger at every shadow.

[boberz]

Vote: Sleepless Assassin

FoS has been removed temporarily, until Sleepless Assassin removes his vote from me or does something more/less suspicious.

Is voting for you inherently scummy tradgedy?

[Hiraki]

Btw. Guderian. Are those the only reasons that you're voting me?

Answer now.

... Any other comments on the game since your last post?

I'd be okay with DBE, Hiraki, or maybe jason.

I do, but I want the answer of this more than anything that has happened recently.

[Tragedy]

Vote: Sleepless Assassin

FoS has been removed temporarily, until Sleepless Assassin removes his vote from me or does something more/less suspicious.

Is voting for you inherently scummy tradgedy?

No, but I just need him to get off and realize his wrong doings, pretty much.

[ribwich]

Why is it so important to get him off of voting for you? Seems odd to be using your vote to essentially scare someone into not voting for you, especially since you're currently in no danger of being lynched.

[jasonT1981]

So basically, your vote stays untill he realizes the error in his ways in voting you?

At least thats how i see it... pretty much OMGUS

[jasonT1981]

hmm noticeing the language used in that post..

NEED

him to get his vote off and realize his wrong doings...

apart from voting you what else is his wrong doings?
why does he NEED to get his vote off you?

[ribwich]

Sotty, when I posted that in reply to Beavers question, you will see that the question was at a point

BEFORE beaver was revealed as DTM

so therefor no, I did not know who he was or had any meta on him. And at that time my point stands.

I even said at the time I had not read everything and was trying to catch up but just wanted to address that point.

your vote is weak.

The reveal was a couple of posts below the question you replied to.

I'm not really finding the ignorance claim compelling.

And the part where jason said he hadn't read everything yet was a post under the post you're attacking him for. Even if Jason did happen to be lying about not seeing the reveal, what motivation would there be to even say he has no meta on DTM?

Reposting this because I don't believe it was ever answered.

Still liking my vote on Hiraki. This new thing with Tragedy might change that soon, but for the moment my vote is staying.

[boberz]

jason is looking for too much of an easy target with his "needs" slip. It is clear that tragedy has a survivalist approach (to some extent atleast) whichever faction and so 'needs' fits into this understanding of motivation.

However tragedys vote clearly is an OMGUS (an overused term however) and not based on any kind of logic. It is very hard to play mafia when people like tragedy and DBE are wandering around town.

Tragedy, why vote with a suggestion you may choose to unvote? Does that not reduce its effectiveness?

[Nero Cain]

jason is looking for too much of an easy target with his "needs" slip.

I don't follow. It was Tragedy that said Sleepless needed to get his vote off her. Jason pointed it out and said it was scummy so how does that make Jason an EZ target?

[Nero Cain]

*LOOKING FOR*

disregard my last post. I agree.