Simpsons Mafia (Game Over)

[Wraith]

picking up prod too, not sure what to say here honestly though.

I've run out of toys to throw out of my pram at people

Also, this is bad. Reeks of "scum who got wagoned trying to slip away unnoticed"

[Deer]

Holy fuck textwalls.

I'm putting my vote back on Darla. Too scummy to toss away because of previous meta.

unvote, vote: DarlaBlueEyes

[sottyrulez]

Sotty.. your 346.. I have already explained everything and you keep pushing for answers I have already given you.

Also, I don't buy this from you that me and SA not seeing something are different, we both didn't see something however you push me on it but let SA off with it. thats double standards from you regardless.

Situations are identical,

we had not fully caught up and posted without seeing something yet its scummy for me, but not for SA.

V/LA for the weekend. Ive had a shit week and I am going now to get VERY drunk

The bold is false but I'm not about to get into a big fight with you over this. Blah, blah semantics. We basically wanted you to give the meta read of DTMaster that you still refused to give. Why?

There is something about your posting in this game that sets off our alarm. Normally townJason is easy to spot. Not so much in this game. It's hard to explain but you are giving me the heebie jeebies.

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Hiraki's post 389 was his best so far. I'm not sure if I agree with the idea of Nacho scum but I like his scum hunting here. A lot actually.

Actually I'd like to know why the vote for Gud over diddin or Mariyta

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Second. Unvote, Vote: Gudierian

Your vote looks a bit too opportunistic to me.

Poorly-disguised OMGUS. This vote is bad for several reasons:

1. Guderian justified his vote somewhat later on
2. After all that WoT, Hiraki could only find "opportunism" as a reason to vote someone.
3. As far as I can tell, diddin is his prime suspect for several reasons, yet he votes Guderian for one.

Huh... I didn't actually notice this at the time. I think it was because the vote was at the top of the wall. Good catch.

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Llama, what do you think about didin?

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I pretty much agree with Steven. This game feels very fragmented, everyone seems to be off doing their own thing. I think we need to make more of an effort to pull in together and get some traction going up in here. Looking at the latest vote count, I'm thinking about shifting over to Darla or tvellalott if no one is interested in a diddin lynch. I am less enthusiastic about a hiraki lynch at this point than I was a few days ago. So probably won't move there.

~Sotty

[sottyrulez]

Actually, lets just..

Unvote, Vote: Darla

There has been zero scum hunting from her and her prod response post is just freaking awful.

~Sotty

[LlamaFluff]

Llama, what do you think about didin?

Have a hard time reading him. He is one of the only VI players who I have a very hard time reading consistnatly. Almost all other VI players I can read much better then 50-50. Dont want a lynch of him since thats not how I like dealing with hard to reads, but I would shake the hand of anyone who decided to vig him.

Still really dislike a DBE lynch.

[Benmage]

Though I have never played in a game with a Hydra/s would it be illogical of me to assume that one of the hydras would be town and one to be scum

w.t.f is even being said here?

What I think we have here is a problem with genders. I am a woman. Women are bound to be more emotional over things and clearly that's been miscontrewed in my posts as taking this too seriously.

W.T.F....playing the female card?? Gee golly…if this gets too overwhelming you’ll always have the kitchen for sanctity.

but fails to understand basic things such as random role dispersal. Something just does not ring true for me.

Yeah this is mind bottling here.

Nero Cain needs more votes guys.

You really dont say why again....just complain about an iso...just like with DBE....zzzzz do something.

DBE has been on the site more than two years but fails to understand basic things such as random role dispersal. Something just does not ring true for me.

Read: was on the site for about six months, played a handful of games (I think no more than 4 non-newbies) disappeared for 18, and is now back.

Role Dispersal!?!?!?

Vote: Sleepless Assassin

FoS has been removed temporarily, until Sleepless Assassin removes his vote from me or does something more/less suspicious.

*sigh*

It is very hard to play mafia when people like tragedy and DBE are wandering around town.

This.

Also on the fence about Llamafluff. Usually, he is advocating and pushing wagons, defending people, and being active. Here, he has posted a few times and then posited a vote on someone with no hope of being lynched, and has washed his hands of all leading wagons.

He is unlikely to draw serious criticism today, and sets himself up well for d2-onwards.

Oooo this isn't bad. While Llama is a horrid scum-hunter he at least tries.

328.

Vote: Wraith

Odd.
329.DH defense-odd.
330.Fonz comment odd.


Onto top of pg 15 now. I guess I was in a commenting mood the other night. Trying to be quicker now. I'm going to the gym soon, so maybe tonight I wrestle through the rest.

[Benmage]

Hey LLama

Benmage gets a scum read, but

I won't say why just yet.

Sweet, I can elaborate because Hiraki already confirmed that my thought wasn't true. The not wanting to say more thing, to me, looked like someone with role related info. Sure, we haven't had a night. But some roles are immediately given information that can help them figure things out.

Not so subtle rolefishing here

Apparently it was...I don't think anyone else picked up on any sort of roelfishing attempt...

But in case it was, your reasoning for trying to highlight it is

......????

[LlamaFluff]

Hey LLama

Benmage gets a scum read, but

I won't say why just yet.

Sweet, I can elaborate because Hiraki already confirmed that my thought wasn't true. The not wanting to say more thing, to me, looked like someone with role related info. Sure, we haven't had a night. But some roles are immediately given information that can help them figure things out.

Not so subtle rolefishing here

Apparently it was...I don't think anyone else picked up on any sort of roelfishing attempt...

But in case it was, your reasoning for trying to highlight it is

......????

I answered that later in the game that apparently you havent got to/missed

He starts saying that he has role related info and implies that he may be scum for that because we havent had a night for any town roles, scum knows more. Then he goes on to say that if he was a town role, it wouldnt be as scummy, making the only way the tell fails to apply is if he is a town role.

[Benmage]

I pretty much agree with Steven. This game feels very fragmented, everyone seems to be off doing their own thing. I think we need to make more of an effort to pull in together and get some traction going up in here. Looking at the latest vote count, I'm thinking about shifting over to Darla or tvellalott if no one is interested in a diddin lynch. I am less enthusiastic about a hiraki lynch at this point than I was a few days ago. So probably won't move there.

I agree direction needs to start getting centralized. I still like a hiraki lynch. You don't need to sell me on DBE or Tragedy. I'd put my vote there if need be. I don't recall reasoning, haven't read yet or haven't looked into tvell/diddin.

[Benmage]

He starts saying that 1.he has role related info and implies that 2.he may be scum for that because we havent had a night for any town roles, scum knows more. Then 3.he goes on to say that if he was a town role, it wouldnt be as scummy, making the only way the tell fails to apply is if he is a town role.

Whose he 1?
Whose he 2?
Whose he 3?

[LlamaFluff]

SA starts saying that Ben has role related info and implies that Ben may be scum for that because we havent had a night for any town roles, scum knows more. Then SA goes on to say that if Ben was a town role, it wouldnt be as scummy, making the only way the tell fails to apply is if Ben is a town role.

Whose he 1?
Whose he 2?
Whose he 3?

This is easier.

[Benmage]

Quote SA saying/believing I had role related info please.

Also Elaborate more your reasoning for saying "not so subtle rolefishing"...what was the purpose of this statement? What were you trying to achieve?

[KageLord]

I'm still on board for DBE. Either she's scum or she's just completely flighty and confused town. Since there is no way to prove that the latter is actually the case, I don't mind lynching her. If she flips scum, hurray. If she flips town, we at least didn't lose anyone that would be of much help to us.

Btw, Darla, I'm not entirely sure how much you know about mafia protocol, but if you get close to being lynched and someone expresses intent to hammer, you should claim your role.

Hopefully I'll get an ISO of her when Diff Eq isn't being so time-consuming.

[LlamaFluff]

Quote SA saying/believing I had role related info please.

Also Elaborate more your reasoning for saying "not so subtle rolefishing"...what was the purpose of this statement? What were you trying to achieve?

Ummm... saying "Ben has a role" and "he appears to have info which means he is scum, or town PR" is different. He was saying the latter, which I have already quoted, and you quoted me saying.

I brought it up when I was pushing for a SA lynch, because it was fishing, which again I have said. Right now im voting tvell, but would be happy to join a SA wagon if one showed up here.

[diddin]

Ooh I've never been called a VI player before. Obviously the only other play you've seen from me is Super Smash Bros Mafia which is my worst game on this site since I was a newb.

Rereading Darla later, I don't remember much about her except for her being angry, and as such I have no read on here.

[Benmage]

Ooh I've never been called a VI player before.

Diddin, you're a VI.

[Steven Hacking]

@ Fonz RE:Ben - Most of what I remember was from early posting where he was actively challenging people for information and weak posting. I liked this because this game is about information and we don't want to let scum get away with ambiguities and vagueness. Then he disappeared for a while it seemed, and his recent update posting has been stating the obvious, "yeah me too"'s, and content-less comments that seem more like bumps to things others have said. The pro-town vibe I was getting/remembering was from early on. His summaries like most everyone's doesn't seem that scummy but isn't helpful either. I'd like to see what he does when we're all on the same page, so to speak.

[diddin]

What I think we have here is a problem with genders. I am a woman. Women are bound to be more emotional over things and clearly that's been miscontrewed in my posts as taking this too seriously. I assure I ain't bovvered one bit, and any perceived irritation or hostility from me is, again, sarcasm. mmkay?

PS that quote post is coming, had to run to the store and just now got back. Expect it in the next 10 mins or so.

Other than this defense which is utter crap I really don't see anything too scummy about Darla. Neutral-leaning scum, but we have bigger fish to fry IMO.

[Benmage]

but we have bigger fish to fry IMO.

Like who?

[DarlaBlueEyes]

am I at L-1? Phooey.

I'm Vanilla Townie. My 'Role' as it were is Grounds Keeper Willie which I got in pre-claimed on my first post with a Willie quote. Assuming you've all seen the X-Files ep anyways. I am sorry to bot be more help in this game but I have got no clue who is scum, and in general the whole hydra thing confuses me and I have been lazy with my VTness and not much help. I will understand if you guys wanna lynch me for that... I don't want to replace out, but right now I have been too busy/tired to go back and really scrutinize this game like I ought to be doing.

I have been trying it's just all very difficult and I admit with only being VT and everyone wanting me dead I have been a bit apathetic about it all... /fails

[Nachomamma8]

WAIT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON

[LlamaFluff]

I dont think DBE was anywhere near L-1... I still think she is town though, somewhat moreso then before.

Can we lynch tvell yet?

[Benmage]

Uhh how did Darla think she was L-1?

[Nero Cain]

I'm Vanilla Townie. My 'Role' as it were is Grounds Keeper Willie which I got in pre-claimed on my first post with a Willie quote. Assuming you've all seen the X-Files ep anyways.

I'll buy it. Though I'm not that big of a fan of the pre-L-1 claim.

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Sorry. I saw Kage's post and rushed to get a claim in. I should have checked first. >.>