Simpsons Mafia (Game Over)

[Mist7676]

Also I UNVOTE: DarlaBlueEyes

[Hiraki]

SA, Deer, Hikari, SH, Tragedy - Move your vote, you are wasting it. No going "oh but they are scum", no, you are wasting your vote and doing nothing to get your vote-ee lynched.

Perhaps. I'll need to look at Kage though.

,UNVOTE: VOTE: Hiraki I know that might look like OMGUS but he has the most so yes I'm sheepin right now. Reason I'm sheeping is because I don't know much of what is going on and I don't want to read all pages (I read 1-3) so tommrow I swear I'll be more active. For now BBAAAAA

You never needed to vote. Just sayin'.

[Deer]

@Mod (and Llama): My vote is on DarlaBlueEyes.

Fixed in VC 14

[Mariyta]

Mariyta, is that serious suspicion of Mist?

No, just irritation at the laziness. Wait, now that I've read the vote in 524, I'm rethinking that. If she's town, she deserves to be slapped. That said, I still like my Hiraki vote, especially after his last post.

[diddin]

Skimmed diddin's ISO. Looks confusing, like a paranoid player pointing the finger at every shadow.

Where did the leaning town part come from? I don't see it. You need to explain these things son. This looked like suspicion to me. In your previous post you has voted Darla because you didn't like her last 2 votes. Why? You have still not explained this vote on Darla.

Your OH BUT WAIT THAT WAS A LEANING TOWN READ looks like an attempt to cover your tracks.

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote, Vote: Mariyta

[Mariyta]

For what?

[ribwich]

Could you explain your vote DH? I don't really see what's wrong with Mariyta's irritation towards Mist, unless there's more to it than that.

[Tragedy]

Mist just did something a bit silly by accident, no need to vote over that. It can be irritating at some point, though.
I don't see any other reasons to vote for her. Probably another plain OMGUS...
Or if I can think that she's distancing herself as well.

[LlamaFluff]

@Mod (and Llama): My vote is on DarlaBlueEyes.

You know that may be a step in the opposite direction.

[Benmage]

I'll jump back in here tomorrow, busy week.

[DemonHybrid]

What's worse than a serious suspicion for a terrible reason is to change your mind halfway through a post to appease everyone and to set up really terrible suspicion artificially, while falling back on a favorable wagon.

[SensFan]

What's worse than a serious suspicion for a terrible reason is to change your mind halfway through a post to appease everyone and to set up really terrible suspicion artificially, while falling back on a favorable wagon.

:badposting:

[Benmage]

Sens where was that promised content?

[DemonHybrid]

What's worse than a serious suspicion for a terrible reason is to change your mind halfway through a post to appease everyone and to set up really terrible suspicion artificially, while falling back on a favorable wagon.

:badposting:

Its easy to say that a post is bad without giving any explanation, but that's okay, because its expected of you.

[Mist7676]

Okay I don't deserve a slap in the face. Hikari is voting me, and is blantly being voted by others. Also today is d1 where we mostly RL. so ya It might look like I'm just doing this for the heck of it. Everyone seems to be accusing him/her of something.

[Hiraki]

Okay I don't deserve a slap in the face. Hikari is voting me, and is blantly being voted by others. Also today is d1 where we mostly RL. so ya It might look like I'm just doing this for the heck of it. Everyone seems to be accusing him/her of something.

You forgot the shameless sheep tag at the end of your post.

[SensFan]

What's worse than a serious suspicion for a terrible reason is to change your mind halfway through a post to appease everyone and to set up really terrible suspicion artificially, while falling back on a favorable wagon.

:badposting:

Its easy to say that a post is bad without giving any explanation, but that's okay, because its expected of you.

Oh, look. Claiming that reasons have to be given for anything, ad hominem, and attempting to dismiss my arguments as moot, ALL IN ONE POST.

But to humour you:
1) Serious suspicion for a terrible reason is basically the definition of a scumtell
2) Changing your mind halfway through a post is uncommon, but certainly not rare, unheard of, or scummy
3) I don't read Maryita's post as trying to appease people at all
4) There's no artificial terrible suspicion that's she's trying to set up
5) There's nothing inherently scummy with wagonning at this point, especially if it's going back to a previous wagon after placing a vote on an outlier
6) The exact wording of my post was a reference to a meme that existed on this site years ago, that I thought Maryita might remember/appreciate

[Mariyta]

What's worse than a serious suspicion for a terrible reason is to change your mind halfway through a post to appease everyone and to set up really terrible suspicion artificially, while falling back on a favorable wagon.

I didn't change my mind halfway through a post. I was posting as I was reading the new posts. And I'm not trying to appease anyone. I don't give a shit if you agree with me or not.

Okay I don't deserve a slap in the face. Hikari is voting me, and is blantly being voted by others. Also today is d1 where we mostly RL. so ya It might look like I'm just doing this for the heck of it. Everyone seems to be accusing him/her of something.

Ya, ya totally deserve a slap in the face. First you're refusing to read the game that you

volunteered

to replace into. If you don't have time to read today, say "Hey guys, checking in. No time to read today. Will catch up tomorrow." or something. Not "I'm not reading all that! Someone summarize so I can be a lazy ass." Second, you voted Hiraki because it was the biggest wagon without putting any thought into it whatsoever. Third, D1 is NOT for random lynches (I assume that's what RL stands for). Where do you play mafia where D1 is a throw-away like that? Even when I play in real life, it's not a random lynch. If you didn't want to play, you shouldn't have

volunteered

to replace. I'm not voting you now because I didn't find your predecessor scummy, but I really don't like your attitude at all.

[Wraith]

Skimmed diddin's ISO. Looks confusing, like a paranoid player pointing the finger at every shadow.

Where did the leaning town part come from? I don't see it. You need to explain these things son. This looked like suspicion to me. In your previous post you has voted Darla because you didn't like her last 2 votes. Why? You have still not explained this vote on Darla.

Your OH BUT WAIT THAT WAS A LEANING TOWN READ looks like an attempt to cover your tracks.

If I had thought you were scum (at that point) I would have stated it outright. Your overdefensiveness over such a trivial (and far past) statement has been noted (again)

[diddin]

Skimmed diddin's ISO. Looks confusing, like a paranoid player pointing the finger at every shadow.

Where did the leaning town part come from? I don't see it. You need to explain these things son. This looked like suspicion to me. In your previous post you has voted Darla because you didn't like her last 2 votes. Why? You have still not explained this vote on Darla.

Your OH BUT WAIT THAT WAS A LEANING TOWN READ looks like an attempt to cover your tracks.

If I had thought you were scum (at that point) I would have stated it outright. Your overdefensiveness over such a trivial (and far past) statement has been noted (again)

You were attacking me over it. How was I being overdefensive?

@People: How did you interpret Wraith's first post on me?

DH: You aren't and will never be Parama. Don't try to post like him.

[Mist7676]

Okay fine I agree with mar logic. I'll read the.

entire

thread tommrow and will come up with a reasonable vote. For now UNVOTE: Hirika

[DemonHybrid]

1) Serious suspicion for a terrible reason is basically the definition of a scumtell
2) Changing your mind halfway through a post is uncommon, but certainly not rare, unheard of, or scummy
3) I don't read Maryita's post as trying to appease people at all
4) There's no artificial terrible suspicion that's she's trying to set up
5) There's nothing inherently scummy with wagonning at this point, especially if it's going back to a previous wagon after placing a vote on an outlier
6) The exact wording of my post was a reference to a meme that existed on this site years ago, that I thought Maryita might remember/appreciate

I'm going to ignore diddin's comment and avoid a text wall.

1. There are worse things.
2. How is it not scummy to you? Do you think that's just an anti-town way of posting? Because it's certainly not town.
3. Her post basically said "No, I didn't suspect her and I still don't. Wait, on second thought, I do now and

here's why.

But I'm going to stay on one of the biggest wagons." It appeals to everyone.
4. Read the bolded above. She did certainly try to set something up, especially since Mist has posted a whopping less than 5 times by the time of Mari's post. It's easy to pick on someone who's lost and confused and try to paint them as scummy, as we know almost nothing about Guderian or Mist.
5. Yes there is, when you start to set up WIFOM on another player and take the safe route by staying on one of the biggest wagon.

[Steven Hacking]

UNVOTE:

Vote: Tvellalot

If DH's flavor claim trap was indeed a trap, which I'm not entirely sure of, it looks like a bear trap if anything.
Sheeping major wagons, while contributing nothing.
One line and in some cases one word responses/analysis to quotes.

Overall: Active lurking, sheeping wagons, and a lack of any kind of critical analysis that gets us anywhere. As unhelpful as DBE but more scummy.


I don't feel the Kage wagon.
DBE and Hikari are only better than a no-lynch.

[KageLord]

unvote, vote Kagelord.

Wraith's been better since I pointed him out. Don't particularly like the Hiraki wagon, though all my reads are pretty weak here. On the fence about tvellalot. I've repeatedly come close to voting him, then he's come out with something decent. I've seen nothing to make me think town on Kage.

Weak vote. Reads as: not scummy, but not town, so vote.

Btw, Darla, I'm not entirely sure how much you know about mafia protocol, but if you get close to being lynched and someone expresses intent to hammer, you should claim your role.

This post stinks....

Maybe it is

because you seem over eager for a role claim

, or maybe it is because I even forgot you were in this game.

Right now I really don't like how Kage pushes for a claim and then gets one right away.

How can I control Darla being a complete noob? I would think that any reasonable person would check how many votes are on their wagon before assuming they are at L-1 and claiming. Did she really think she had gone from 3 votes to L-1 in one page? Anyway, clearly the reasoning for that part of the post (that she's dazed and confused) has been proven accurate by her premature claim.

Read:

It's not my fault she claimed, even though I suggested it was a good idea by implying that she was close to lynch when it wasn't entirely true.

I didn't imply she was close to lynch. If you would read my post more carefully (and it seems like you're not really reading the whole thing now), you would see the "if you get closed to being lynched and someone expresses intent to hammer". Was that condition met when DBE claimed? No. Thus no reason to claim if she was actually reacting to my post. If everyone thought I was telling her to claim, I would say that maybe there was a problem in my wording that I just wasn't getting, but since others seem to read it fine, I would say it's careless reading on your part.

Already covered for the rolefishing, but quoted this portion again to point out more Kagelord uncertainty awesomeness.

More apparent uncertainty yet the vote remains. To me it appears Kage is hedging his bets on pushing for a Darla lynch, yet distancing himself from it all the same.

Since when is uncertainty a scumtell? Read my meta and you'll notice that's present in all of my games (in fact, even though this is self-meta and thus not very reliable, I tend to be more uncertain as town than scum). There were only two times that I attacked with real certainty as town. I was only right one of those two times.

unvote
Vote Kage

Wagon winner! Tvell can just be bullet winner.

K... a quick building wagon vote.

ISO: Tvellalot / Mist

Tvellalot: Supporting the DBE lynch while helping Hiraki in some confusing way.

Vote: Kagelord

(I sincerely apologize for lateness, but after reading sotty's post with Kagelord's post, yes, it does feel somehow scummy since it was already mentioned of the distancing stuff.. Durhur~!)

Explain please, using your own words, about the "distancing stuff".

3) I don't read Maryita's post as trying to appease people at all

QFT

If Mariyta was posting to appease and was in it for a big wagon as DH suggests, I don't see why Mariyta wouldn't have just jumped onto my wagon as it was initially gaining steam. There are already clearly votes on it that are sheeping/wagoning so I don't think one more would have aroused much suspicion.