Mafia of the Chosen Ones (Game Over!)

[Baby Spice]

Vote Vas

Ok Andy, I've thought you were town the whole game, and Vas has been a scumspect of mine for a while too so lets test them.

[RayFrost]

To clarify my point regarding "attempted the impossible" being impossible as the scum NK - SCUM CAN NT KILL EACH OTHER WITHOUT THIS GAME BEING WAY TOO SWINGY. Assuming seraph gift of vig, proper scum lynch, vig hit scum, and the remaining two scum cross kill, the game could end in a single night phase, meaning that attempted the impossible

can't

be the NK. Vi's a better mod than that.

Given the fact it isn't even balanced for attempted the impossible to be the scum NK thanks to a fate kill, where does the scum nk fit into your analysis, BS?

[Baby Spice]

I still disagree with you, and a Seraph it appears.
To me it doesn't make sense any other way but for Fate to be a cross kill.
Of course me and sense don't always meet.

But with Hito's message we can test something properly. viz, Vas. (and by association, Andrius)

Though I am surprised that Hito didn't claim and clarify any halo's he might have sent. (Since the other seraph will already know)

[Furcolow]

there was double halo talk

[Furcolow]

Well, you're currently voting Baby Spice.

So I'm going to go ahead and assume you have considered ALL RELEVANT INFORMATION.

And

Unvote. Vote: Baby Spice

you were unvoted
the vote count was literally a couple posts above yours
did you not see you hadn't voted?

wouldn't a townie know where his vote was?
you're a top suspect for SK, and hell, you might even be scum
You haven't really brought anything to the table, and Jack is usually right.

FOS: AGM

, considering voting, will be happy with singersigner/babyspice/vv (less so)

[mothrax]

@Babyspice: I disagree, I think that "incinerated" and "sniped" are the scumkill flavors. That being said "attempted the impossible must come from a third party or town player. From what hito said I am not inclined to believe that it is a town player unless the fallen seraphs spammed powerroles d1 (not really a viable option without knowledge of the scum team, which they wouldn't have without a considerable amount of faith. IMO it makes more sense as an SK kill.

[Furcolow]

could you elaborate on that last post, mothrax? some of it may be taken out of context. What exactly are you saying about Andrius?
What exactly are you saying about what you believe they have done with the faith?

[mothrax]

I said nothing pertaining to andrius. I was answering babyspices question to me about killflavor. The only way the fate kill could be town driven would be if the fallen seraphs spammed powerroles early to give scum an advantage and accidentally gave it to a town player. Which makes no sense from a scum perspective. Why give powerroles when you don't know who is on your team? I got the vibe from hito that they had not done a lot in the way of giviNg prs.

[mothrax]

Also, in MoHo the big was an instant resolution, where as all the kills thus far have resolved at "night"

[Furcolow]

it's obviously an SK........

[singersigner]

AGM, I'm still unsure as to how you got this huge scum read on me.

Furc, I'd like to know why you're completely willing to sheep the Seraph's reads. Even AGM had only stated that he liked their apparent scum read on me, and that's because he had already expressed suspicion on me.

You've managed to completely disregard your suspicions on basically anyone else, except to say, "I called Andrius was town," and now you've effectively cast suspicion on 4 different players at once.

Right now I'm suspicious of BS...maybe VV, but even less so now that BS is voting him to "test them" where I'm assuming "them" is referring to hers and Andrius' scumspect's being the same or something of the sort.

Also, how sure are we that Andrius is town and that we can trust the Seraph's read on him?

ALSO, I'm not so sure that their read on AGM being the SK is accurate. His goal would be to get rid of mafia, right? It might seem a bit too obvious and WIFOM-y, but you would think that if he genuinely thought I was mafia, he would've vigged me...yes?

[Furcolow]

your post is about the other 3
hypocrite
/ad hom, but it's fucking deserved here

[RayFrost]

SS is scummy, but BS is scum. My advice? Lynch BS.

That said, the seraph (hito) said that

andrius is CONFIRMED TOWN

. This implies some information that I don't think we should be asking about. Let's move away from this topic slowly. And then lynch BS.

Please, explain to me how THE POSSIBILITY OF THE ENTIRE SCUM TEAM DYING IN A SINGLE NIGHT makes any sense from the perspective of balance. Enlighten me, as this is what you'd be saying if the attempted the impossible kill was a scum

any night

NK. Emphasis on the any night as that implies the game mechanics are vastly different from Moho (which this game, in case you didn't realize yet, is based on).

[Furcolow]

I could see it being a cross kill, except for the flavor that has been pointed out

[mothrax]

Oh hey, nacho is in this game?

[Furcolow]

no joke, i was considering that earlier
serious lurking/inactivity

[mothrax]

More posting from him and inhim would be nice. Jack too.

[RayFrost]

@ Hito: A seraph is not a god. A seraph is merely a First Class Angel of Awesome. Close enough, though.

Also, are you allowed to, I dunno... give some cases for us to understand your reasoning behind your associations and shiznit? Just saying "connectionz be existin' yo" doesn't exactly convince me regarding VV. I can already see SS, and I've been howling for BS long since.

If you were forced to cast the seraph kill on one of your three scumspects, which would you choose? What does people not posting during the D1 quicklynch tell you about them? It seems null to me - multi-man scumteams an sich + people can be present without posting. Besides that, do you have absolute confirmation that scum did not perform a NK during the first night? As I have already showed, it is possible that scum hit scum on the other team for a null effect.

[RayFrost]

Oh, I just realized something.

Do we actually have confirmation that you are the town seraph? I checked moho, and it's actually cheaper for scum to use communion, and it is a power available to them, so I don't see any direct evidence that

you are the town seraph

.

[RayFrost]

Part of the reason I bring this up is the fact your listed suspects are p. much all very common reads across the whole game. You haven't provided any sort of reasoning for your cases (Aside from the slightly lawlwut reasoning behind AGM-SK logic).

[RayFrost]

Also, do you have any

town reads

you want to share?

[Furcolow]

we could use their next double-halo as a lynch-victim, thus confirming them if they are town (possibly?)

[RayFrost]

Scum have access to halos too. Confirms nothing.

[Furcolow]

apparently not double halos

[RayFrost]

Point for hito to consider regarding AGM:

Equinox was alive D2. Equinox was doc D2. This is as simple an explanation for the lack of a kill by the SK as AGM-SK that was away.

Furc: double halo is merely the granting of a simple halo and the granting of an improved halo back to back...