Bomb Mafia -- Game Over

[Katsuki]

And which reads need justifying? Come now don't just make requests without specifying what you're talking about. Think of me as either a very dim cupcake, or fate.

[RedCoyote]

Vote Count 2.5

• Benmage

  (3) (StrangerCoug - themanhimself - Nobody Special)
  
  
  themanhimself
  (2) (Fate - Katsuki)
  
  
  Katsuki
  (1) (Benmage)
  
  
  Not Voting
  (4) (SpyreX - AurorusVox - hitogoroshi - AntB)
  
  
  
  Bomb possessed by: AntB (No Passes Left)

With ten alive, it takes six to lynch.

Current Deadline: Feb. 26th, 2011 at 1:30 AM (CST)

[Fate]

And which reads need justifying? Come now don't just make requests without specifying what you're talking about. Think of me as either a very dim cupcake, or fate.

What the hell is this I dont even

[Katsuki]

And which reads need justifying? Come now don't just make requests without specifying what you're talking about. Think of me as either a very dim cupcake, or fate.

What the hell is this I dont even

Funny thing is that this came before I saw ythan's post questioning the same intellegence.

[hitogoroshi]

And which reads need justifying? Come now don't just make requests without specifying what you're talking about. Think of me as either a very dim cupcake, or fate.

My 375 summarizes what I'm looking for. You can skip the part about massclaiming.

Speaking of massclaiming:

I am Zach LaVoy. I'm a member of the Transton Bomb squad and recently assigned to a new team. I skydive on the weekends.

I am a Bomb Squad Technician. I have a one-shot ability to learn the explosion time of the next bomb. I have yet to use it - it feels like the bomb after AntB's is a good time to use it but I'm not sure.

Also, speaking of that new team...

I'd like any other members of the Transton Bomb Squad to answer this: are you a member of a new team within the bomb squad? If yes, take the standard cipher A=1, B=2, etc., and sum up the values of all of the letters in the name. This is the "checksum." Please report the checksum of the name of the new team (don't include the word "Team" when summing) in thread. Do NOT claim the name of the team in-thread.

The checksum of my team name is 31.

[Katsuki]

I responded to that post of yours already, hito.

[Fate]

Hito just claimed and you have nothing else to say huh

[hitogoroshi]

Also note that his "response" to 375 is "The reason that I haven't given any reasoning for why I suspect the person I'm voting for is because I actually suspect someone I'm not voting for (still not providing reasons tho lawl)".

[Katsuki]

What is there to say.
JK, my thoughts will come later.

Has everyone claimed?

[Fate]

oh yeah you claimed. Thanks for reminding me.

WHATH THE FUCK HITO AREYOU GAMING THE SYSTEM BY MATCHING UP ROLE PMS?

Low fucking LOW.

No one has to answer said question.

I won't hold it against you.

Yeah the bomb after this is a good time to use it.

[Katsuki]

Oh yeah Fate hasn't claimed yet has he?

[hitogoroshi]

WHATH THE FUCK HITO AREYOU GAMING THE SYSTEM BY MATCHING UP ROLE PMS?

Fuck yeah I am!

I checked with Red first because checksums are pretty awesome and I could understand if he opposed them. He was alright with it.

Spyguy I'm super interested in your checksum in particular.

[Fate]

Well for fuck's sake...

If RC wants to throw his game then that means he has provided fucking fakeclaims anyway.

*shrug*

Go ahead with the pointless exercise. I'll be over here not claiming

[SpyreX]

Assuming I'm not bad at math. Yes, its 31.

Additionally, 4

[Fate]

*waits*

[hitogoroshi]

Delicious Spy, absolutely delicious.

Double-check your math because "whoops lawl wrong number" will officially not fly later.

AntB, have a checksum to share with us?

[SpyreX]

Yes. 31 is the final answer.

[Fate]

Good lord something's about to explode.

[hitogoroshi]

Actually it won't be too much of a thing. It'll just increase the likelihood that we're all town, but it doesn't guarantee (Red could have made fakeclaims, as Ben pointed out). Still, it's quick to check and it's definitely a bigger than zero town tell, so PtW demands I see this shit through.

[AurorusVox]

This is a generalized statement. In general early claims should be avoided. I gave my reasoning for this scenario. There was reasoning. If you disagree with it....well....get better. So far my points have been the correct ones.

One of your points was stolen from Hito. I also don't see how you claiming VT early proved anything. Okay, in your scenario where scum will only claim VT, doesn't that give us x number of clears to NOT BOMB during our month long day? Also, your assumption that all scum will claim VTs stinks of you trying to sneak a PR-fakeclaiming scumbuddy through the game.

Couldn't I just withhold my claim to the proper time, then claim easy VT.... and still not get tangled in a fakeclaim web....Moreover early claiming VT fucks me if I am scum PR and got tracked/watched...and or NK'd and got tracked/watched...Granted you can say well I'm a goon who did nothing...but the point remains that Early claiming cannot be argued as a logical scum thing to do. (Especially in this scenario). Point Benmage.

No, not point Benmage. You could have waited til the end to claim VT but the fact is that you're trying to use the timing to make your claim look legit. Saying "If I was scum I'd have done this" is pure WIFOM, and the fact you're trying to use such arguments to convince people you're a real VT sets off alarm bells.

I didn't encourage claims. I tried to illustrate the idiocy of the massclaim and that it will achieve nothing. And I claimed to demonstarte that I had nothing to hide.

How can you say I encouraged claims when the whole time I was the only one in opposition to the massclaim.

Sure SC didn't understand why many wanted to massclaim. But he sheeped when the idea of breaking the game was suggested.

Because I'm accusing you of hypocrisy. You've directly asked people to claim, you've also started the whole process rolling earlier than we had wanted.

Are you reading???? VTs will claim VT....duh. PRs will claim PRs...and scum will claim VT. What does the massclaim achieve? Outted PRs....that's why I was against it. The deduction here is very simple. Your logic in this quote doesn't make any sense to anything I've said.

So far you've pushed people into claiming. If you didn't want to out PRs why did you do this? We've now had some PR claims so your whole song and dance has achieved nothing. And my logic doesn't make sense because I'm

saying its illogical

to think that by pressuring people for claims you won't out PRs. You've pressured people into claiming. You say you don't want to out PRs. Does not compute.

Uhm yeah I didn't want the bomb on me at all.

He wanted it

...I was still trying to understand his play in my mind, but wanted it off me asap. Which is why after a little more time and consideration I then pushed strongest against him.

Exactly, he wanted the bomb. You gave it to him. Great job.

And push as hard as I was....on D1...to Jack, a good scummer... Nah I aint even gonna do that as scum. But thanks for the belief that I'm that badass.

I refuse to underestimate anyone. This is more WIFOMdefence which stinks.

In this quote we discover AV is scum. You call me hypo scum? Lol... you want me dead. You better fucking believe in this scenario and not be thinking in theory. But you're just trying to get a lynch on one of the better players because a few VI's placed their votes on me.

Lol nice misrep. What I'm saying is that hypothetically if you were scum I would expect you to do X. You did X. Therefore I think you are likely to be scum. And of course, everything is theory at the moment - do you expect me to have undeniable evidence that you are scum?

Did you forget that I blew scum up?

Did you forget he WANTED THE BOMB.

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Hmm, its a shame Hito's ability is one-shot. I'd have liked to have tested Spy's claim twice. If we can afford it we should check Spy's multi-shot ability by having him defuse a bomb placed on him at some point later in the game; if he's lying about his power he'll get blown to hell.

[Fate]

(AV is a scum boi)

[themanhimself]

I'm really thinking that now might be a good time use Hito's ability. The game is kind of stalling, we need to know whether it's worth it to wait for the bomb to go off

[Benmage]

I would say to use it after this explosion.

[AntB]

My checksum is indeed 31.

[hitogoroshi]

Awesome.

Has everyone but Fate claimed? This is last chance for checksums time.