Sleepless Assassin wrote:Ok, I was a dumbass and forgot to leave a note to self on what page I left off on. I think it was 35, so that's where I'm starting tonight.
I don't like Boberz voting Jason for the doc claim. The unvote is just . . .WTF. He gets a few comments defending Jason and just goes "what was I thinking". Dunno, the whole situation is just off.
I don't think people understand Mist's claim unless I misread it. I thought she was saying that she could talk to one Simpson each night. Because we hadn't had a night yet, no one would have been able to confirm this unless their role told them that Mist had that ability.
Funny, that's exactly what I said.
In the Demon/Fonz debate on Rib's hammer, I'm actually finding myself agreeing with Demon (though I don't see either side as scummy in this exchange). Rib gave fair warning that he was going to hammer if he found it necessary. It's also plausible to think that he didn't realize that a player who he saw as scummy would be able to use their night action to confirm themself. A cop/neighbor claim tends to draw more focus to the cop part. Now, the part I don't like about the hammer isn't that everyone should have realized the nieghbor thing could be confirmed.
It's that Mist had claimed COP and Rib, along with others, thought that that was a good DAY ONE LYNCH. If Mist had been lying, it wouldn't have been hard to figure out by say Day 4.
I find it odd that you said this, which was the main point of my argument with DH:
That said, I really hate people voting her on the basis of her claim. Day one cop claims work themselves out. I have never seen a D1 scum cop claimant survive to lylo in a large. Actually, I've never seen a cop claimant of either stripe do that.
DH and Sens basically jumped down my throat for this with 'OMG she was so obvscum scum couldn't have had anything to do with it' and then you say you agreed with that. I was disturbed because 'Shit, cop claim, unvote' is the natural town reaction to the day one lynch wagonee claiming cop, and yet no-one did. Sens and DH themselves, I can buy: the combination of Simpson role and misreading the neighborizer claim making them think the player was basically confirmed scum. Boberz and rib? Why did they not think 'there is basically no risk in leaving her alive?'
@Ben: I said it was a gut feeling. I'd like to elaborate, but it's pretty hard. A lot of your posts feel like they're talking, but not saying anything. You say 'Explain' a lot. You state willingness to hammer, but 'when ready' as if you're waiting for other player's approval. [url=
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2761173]This post,
you do a kind of Mastin-style 'commenting on a shitload of things people have said of dubious relevance' post, one point on Tragedy that kind of looks like an argument, then you vote Nero Cain, your 'top scum suspect' who you didn't discuss at all in that post.
In fact, the totality of your case on him is:
Don't make waves please. (internetsarcasmit'ssometimeshardtosee)
His presence or lack thereof, is reminiscent of Supernatural Mafia, where he actively chooses to be unseen as scum.
Both of these apply to you, I think, and also, 27 words in 32 posts devoted to the player who is your top scum suspect? Then after the vote, you return to... not talking about him, kinda vaguely prodding at other people with inane questions and statements of questionable relevance. You're clearly not trying to convince anyone else to support your favored wagon, and this is clearly scummy.
Also, in the same post you make this argument, you vote the trendy Jason wagon over Nero, with only 'it's the activity thing that gives me pause.'
Ben
could you explain whether 'Gives me pause' means 'gives me reason to not suspect' or 'gives me reason to suspect?'
The post in which you voted Jason was your 29th. By that point, he had made 71. So basically, if you're saying you want to vote him because he's a low activity player, you're both wrong and a hypocrite. Jason was one of the most active players. If you're saying it gives you reason NOT to vote him, then... you haven't actually given a reason TO vote him.
Your telling me I need to elaborate while just saying 'Go do a quick ISO of Nacho' as your case on the latter is pretty much hilarious. I've ISOd him, and I see a player who is tunnelling on you. I don't necessarily see scum.
