Simpsons Mafia (Game Over)

[sottyrulez]

So the moral of this whole story is "Jason, if you're alive D4, make sure your scum buddies kill you. Kthxbye."

Think what you want. If I recall, other people were pushing to lynch Jason without the "he's lived a day after his claim" or "he was on both wagons that got sensed" parts to their case. So why is it

me

you find scummy?

PREDIT: Which is why you're on my scumlist, buddy-boy. You've been pushing my lynch on crap cases since forever.

That justifies your push on him now?

TBH, given the info that's out there now, I've lost interest in Jason for the time being.

[sottyrulez]

Oh, and both Mariyta and Jason were on the Mist wagon. Assuming Ribwich is scum which is looking likely, they CAN'T both be scum.

[Wraith]

And since I've already confused myself by looking back at that big post, I'm going to summarize. I've italicized my tentative pick 3.

3 scum lie among these fine folks:

Steven Hacking

, diddin,

Lowell

,

Wraith

Okay, let's rely on your one(?) game of meta with me. Would you

prefer

I go into "lockdown-talkshit-fuckoff" mode? Or do you rather like this admittedly rather rare "talksshit-but-doesshit" mode?

I mean, this back-and-forth we have here is pretty obviously town versus town. It's funny that in most other games with people I have more meta with they'd be swooning and saying "oh Wraith we love your activity level and contributions, even though you're a complete asshole." But no. Remember, the single game of meta you have on me is one where I was playing during a period of overloading (hence the lurking) and had a persecution complex (for reasons you already know). So look a little beyond the meta, mariyta. Here's the deal - people lay off me and let me run my fucking mouth, and the scum'll leave me alive as they try in vain to get me mislynched. That way, we'll have a obvtownie in LyLo all while he is

actually contributing

(contrary to HALF THE PLAYERS IN THE GAME). Sound good to you?

@sotty: The Predit was directed at diddin, not Mariyta.

[Mariyta]

Don't go getting all pissed off and defensive. You're not going to be lynched today. But we need to think through all the options. Based on your "Let's kill the doc" comments, you're more likely to be scum than diddin at this point, but as I already said, I need to re-read. So cool your jets.

[Consigliere]

Off to watch the grammy's folks...Will check in later/The morn...Should be interesting to hear what Steven has to say....Wraith, if you find me scummy, whatever...You've got nothing. Very simple: I'm not buying Jason as anything other than the doc until I have some sort of counter, especially with the odds of the mist wagon and sens' claim of sensor on that lynch list and the potential of Benmage finding ribwich and even LESSENING that possibility...If that makes me scummy to others, so be it.

[Mariyta]

You missed Lady Gaga.

[Wraith]

Don't go getting all pissed off and defensive. You're not going to be lynched today. But we need to think through all the options. Based on your "Let's kill the doc" comments, you're more likely to be scum than diddin at this point, but as I already said, I need to re-read. So cool your jets.

Meh, maybe that's your point of view. Probably my main beef with him is that he's been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now, plus I made a bigger post outlining my suspicions on him earlier. While I can't see why people suspect me for the most part, I can see the whole "He's trying to kill the claimed doc" part of it. So here's the explanation: I believed a (obviously bogus) doc claim in a LyLo, and it lost me a game. Meta

[jasonT1981]

I find it very interesting given whats come about today Wraith is very focused on trying to push me as scum.. protecting a buddy maybe? Hell,

Also the whole Jason is alive today so cant be doctor... do you know how much WIFOM is involved there... something scum would push heavy on a claimed doc I feel.. let him live, therefor the fact he is alive makes it look like the claim is a lie.

Also the HE WAS NOT EVEN ROLEBLOCKED...

How do you know that?

SCUMSLIP!

As said before only investigation roles would get informed and they are not usually even told they are roleblocked....they get a message from mod saying investigation unsucessful. not that they were roleblocked

Interesting also, Wraith has focused VERY LITTLE on the info out there today... only voting and then completely turning to hypos and WIFOM. Surely the info that has came out today would be a lot more town would want to talk about instead of the why/why nots of someone being alive a day after a claim.

[jasonT1981]

Don't go getting all pissed off and defensive. You're not going to be lynched today. But we need to think through all the options. Based on your "Let's kill the doc" comments, you're more likely to be scum than diddin at this point, but as I already said, I need to re-read. So cool your jets.

Meh, maybe that's your point of view.

Probably my main beef with him is that he's been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

, plus I made a bigger post outlining my suspicions on him earlier. While I can't see why people suspect me for the most part, I can see the whole "He's trying to kill the claimed doc" part of it. So here's the explanation: I believed a (obviously bogus) doc claim in a LyLo, and it lost me a game. Meta

OK your main beef with me is that I suspect you as scum and have perused that avenue... so you are now pushing WIFOM to show me as scum all because really.... I suspect you?

Awesome!

[Wraith]

I find it very interesting given whats come about today Wraith is very focused on trying to push me as scum.. protecting a buddy maybe? Hell,

Also the whole Jason is alive today so cant be doctor... do you know how much WIFOM is involved there... something scum would push heavy on a claimed doc I feel.. let him live, therefor the fact he is alive makes it look like the claim is a lie.

Also the HE WAS NOT EVEN ROLEBLOCKED...

How do you know that?

SCUMSLIP!

As said before only investigation roles would get informed and they are not usually even told they are roleblocked....they get a message from mod saying investigation unsucessful. not that they were roleblocked

Interesting also, Wraith has focused VERY LITTLE on the info out there today... only voting and then completely turning to hypos and WIFOM. Surely the info that has came out today would be a lot more town would want to talk about instead of the why/why nots of someone being alive a day after a claim.

Okay, I expected defensiveness, but not HYPERDEFENSIVENESS. I put out my personal analysis on the data about two pages ago, and then Cons/Mariyta/diddin pulled into a rather long debate over whether or not you fakeclaimed. So yeah, that accusation is bull.

Second of all, I've explained twice why I think you weren't roleblocked. So that accusation is bull (and sounds a lot like what diddin said, who is also on my scumlist)

Third of all, I don't debate WIFOM, I assume the scum are genre savvy and LEAVE IT at that. Meaning, they would leave the claimed doc alive to get him mislynched IF HIS CLAIM WAS SUSPECT, which yours WASN'T (to compare, my Doc claim in Gorrad's Favorite Fictional Characters was very suspect, and I've explained this earlier). Add to that the fact that you were a repeat customer on sensed wagons, and we have something that seems to be a little more than coincidental.

Predit: Ah, notice just who is attacking me these last few pages - Consigliere, diddin, and Jason - All people who are on my scumlist.

RURM RURM RURM RUUUUUUUUUUUUUR

[Wraith]

Don't go getting all pissed off and defensive. You're not going to be lynched today. But we need to think through all the options. Based on your "Let's kill the doc" comments, you're more likely to be scum than diddin at this point, but as I already said, I need to re-read. So cool your jets.

Meh, maybe that's your point of view.

Probably my main beef with him is that he's been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

, plus I made a bigger post outlining my suspicions on him earlier. While I can't see why people suspect me for the most part, I can see the whole "He's trying to kill the claimed doc" part of it. So here's the explanation: I believed a (obviously bogus) doc claim in a LyLo, and it lost me a game. Meta

OK your main beef with me is that I suspect you as scum and have perused that avenue... so you are now pushing WIFOM to show me as scum all because really.... I suspect you?

Awesome!

Whoops, thought that was diddin posting. You read it wrong (or maybe I was too vague). Here's a revision:

Probably my main beef with [DIDDIN] is that [DIDDIN]'s been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

[jasonT1981]

fair enough on that last point

[Zachrulez]

Actually Wraith, you declared with seeming certainty that Jason wasn't roleblocked.

Of course there would have to be a scum roleblocker to even roleblock him to begin with. (A condition that hasn't even been established)

Also whether or not there is a roleblocker and whether or not he would be roleblocked is something Jason himself wouldn't actually have any control over, and thus is a non point in discussing whether or not he's town or scum.

[sottyrulez]

Actually Wraith, you declared with seeming certainty that Jason wasn't roleblocked.

Of course there would have to be a scum roleblocker to even roleblock him to begin with. (A condition that hasn't even been established)

Also whether or not there is a roleblocker and whether or not he would be roleblocked is something Jason himself wouldn't actually have any control over, and thus is a non point in discussing whether or not he's town or scum.

[diddin]

Don't go getting all pissed off and defensive. You're not going to be lynched today. But we need to think through all the options. Based on your "Let's kill the doc" comments, you're more likely to be scum than diddin at this point, but as I already said, I need to re-read. So cool your jets.

Meh, maybe that's your point of view.

Probably my main beef with him is that he's been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

, plus I made a bigger post outlining my suspicions on him earlier. While I can't see why people suspect me for the most part, I can see the whole "He's trying to kill the claimed doc" part of it. So here's the explanation: I believed a (obviously bogus) doc claim in a LyLo, and it lost me a game. Meta

OK your main beef with me is that I suspect you as scum and have perused that avenue... so you are now pushing WIFOM to show me as scum all because really.... I suspect you?

Awesome!

Yay OMGUS.

And I read your explanation. I just don't buy it, scum.

Whoops, thought that was diddin posting. You read it wrong (or maybe I was too vague). Here's a revision:

Probably my main beef with [DIDDIN] is that [DIDDIN]'s been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

[diddin]

[

Don't go getting all pissed off and defensive. You're not going to be lynched today. But we need to think through all the options. Based on your "Let's kill the doc" comments, you're more likely to be scum than diddin at this point, but as I already said, I need to re-read. So cool your jets.

Meh, maybe that's your point of view.

Probably my main beef with him is that he's been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

, plus I made a bigger post outlining my suspicions on him earlier. While I can't see why people suspect me for the most part, I can see the whole "He's trying to kill the claimed doc" part of it. So here's the explanation: I believed a (obviously bogus) doc claim in a LyLo, and it lost me a game. Meta

OK your main beef with me is that I suspect you as scum and have perused that avenue... so you are now pushing WIFOM to show me as scum all because really.... I suspect you?

Awesome!

Whoops, thought that was diddin posting. You read it wrong (or maybe I was too vague). Here's a revision:

Probably my main beef with [DIDDIN] is that [DIDDIN]'s been trying to get me lynched for quite a while now

Yay OMGUS.

And I read your explanation. I just don't buy it, scum.

Fixed

[Wraith]

Actually Wraith, you declared with seeming certainty that Jason wasn't roleblocked.

Of course there would have to be a scum roleblocker to even roleblock him to begin with. (A condition that hasn't even been established)

Also whether or not there is a roleblocker and whether or not he would be roleblocked is something Jason himself wouldn't actually have any control over, and thus is a non point in discussing whether or not he's town or scum.

Fine, it's a scumslip. Lynch me, because I'm scum.

I hope I don't have to add the html tags. Some people might actually take this post seriously.

[sottyrulez]

Might be worth taking seriously with all the scrambling you are doing.

[Wraith]

Might be worth taking seriously with all the scrambling you are doing.

Scrambling? This isn't me scrambling. And I don't scramble when I scum, I jump under the bus.

[jasonT1981]

Actually Wraith, you declared with seeming certainty that Jason wasn't roleblocked.

Of course there would have to be a scum roleblocker to even roleblock him to begin with. (A condition that hasn't even been established)

Also whether or not there is a roleblocker and whether or not he would be roleblocked is something Jason himself wouldn't actually have any control over, and thus is a non point in discussing whether or not he's town or scum.

Fine, it's a scumslip. Lynch me, because I'm scum.

I hope I don't have to add the html tags. Some people might actually take this post seriously.

oh boy... lots more WIFOM.

[jasonT1981]

Might be worth taking seriously with all the scrambling you are doing.

I have come to realize, quite a lot of scum claims are designed to make people think they are being sarcastic so it would not be taken seriously... on a small related note.

@Zach specifically... remember the game you claimed SK and ended up being true!

[sottyrulez]

Might be worth taking seriously with all the scrambling you are doing.

I have come to realize, quite a lot of scum claims are designed to make people think they are being sarcastic so it would not be taken seriously... on a small related note.

@Zach specifically... remember the game you claimed SK and ended up being true!

Wasn't on this site, but yes.

[jasonT1981]

Just brought back memories..

[sottyrulez]

Might be worth taking seriously with all the scrambling you are doing.

Scrambling? This isn't me scrambling. And I don't scramble when I scum, I jump under the bus.

So you deny scrambling and then self meta defense for it at the same time?

[Wraith]

Might be worth taking seriously with all the scrambling you are doing.

Scrambling? This isn't me scrambling. And I don't scramble when I scum, I jump under the bus.

So you deny scrambling and then self meta defense for it at the same time?

That's my playstyle - take the ground, not one step back. Unless you are completely and totally wrong. It tends to get me lynched as town. A lot.

But why would I scramble to defend myself here? I am in no danger of being lynched for at least two days. What this does get me, though, is two days extended life due to the scumteams keeping me around as an easy mislynch target.