Mafia of the Chosen Ones (Game Over!)

[inHimshallibe]

Guess it could have been Nacho, he didn't seem to doubt me.

[inHimshallibe]

WHERE this was explained to me would have been a PM and a post in the shadow QuickTopic that I was not to post anymore.

[inHimshallibe]

Also, Nacho, I hope you can appreciate that I am nervous about a scenario that allows you and I to win, probably similar to what ss feels toward me.

[Nachomamma8]

Singer i am on a phone. I used a holy order that will tell me how much faith the demon seraphs have. If it goes through, inhim is lying. I will explain when im at a computer. Wait to vote until then.

[inHimshallibe]

That's nifty, though I am certainly curious how it proves I am lying.

I suppose because they would have no reason to gain faith?

I have a bad feeling you're just going to take another shot and win :/

[Vi]

Vote Count XLIV:

Holding their breath...

Not Voting:

inHimshallibe, Nachomamma8, singersigner

inHim 0 | Nacho 0 | sinsig 0

--With 3 alive, it will take 2 to lynch.

---Seriously, someone remind me when I forget L again.

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(75%)

--HOLY ORDER--

-The Fallen Seraph team currently possesses 14 Faith.

[inHimshallibe]

Well, there's your order. What does it prove?

[singersigner]

I'm really interested in seeing where this is going...

[Vi]

Vote Count XLV:

Helloooooooooooooooooooooo...?

Not Voting:

inHimshallibe, Nachomamma8, singersigner

inHim 0 | Nacho 1 | sinsig 0

--With 3 alive, it will take 2 to lynch.

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(62%)

[Nachomamma8]

My order proves that the Demon Seraphs are still in this game.
And, we can't forget their win condition:

You win when it is no longer possible to prevent Demons from being the only living players.

Thus, even IF inhim is telling the truth about his win condition, you still have to worry about the Demon Seraphs. You won't be able to stop them from gaining faith alone, and eventually they will be able to use their trump card holy order, Plum will come down to earth and endgame you. And you won't be able to win until the Demon faction is completely destroyed, and they WON'T be destroyed until inhim is dead.

As for inHim being a survivor now...

We KNOW Hito would not of said this if he had anything to do with inHim's survivor status:

And if I die, you all become friends of the sk. Remember all that.

ESPECIALLY since the only scum he was pushing was inHim. If he made inHim a stripped demon, then he would be pushing my lynch through and through, and would allow inHim to win with the town. OR, he would push a scumlynch that wasn't inHim. But he didn't.

In other words, the only possibility for him being Survivored is me. Now, inHim claimed that he was stripped of his powers when hito used Communion on him. Meaning that I would have to use my survivor power before I knew that inHim was scum, and I would have to somehow make him a survivor at the exact same time that hito opened his communion QT with him, which is a little too coincidental for my tastes. In addition, I would have to have to power SOMEHOW, and it would make no sense to use it anywhere near endgame. And if I could use it more than once, it wouldn't make sense for me not to use it on you for an automatic victory...

[Nachomamma8]

Now for my proposal...

Currently on its way is a Doctor role, tailored specifically for you. Protect yourself, and lynch inHim with me. Tomorrow, I will grant you a dayvig and we will shoot each other as soon as you receive it. We both will die since I only have nightkill immunity, and both of our win conditions will be fulfilled simultaneously. I win when all demons and righteous have died, and you win when everyone who's role PM requires Righteous to die is dead.

I'll vote as soon as you confirm you've gotten it.

[Nachomamma8]

Mod, request votecount.

[inHimshallibe]

First of all, I will make rebuttals to what has been said in regards to my role, but for now I only have the time to convince you NOT to follow this plan.

The SK is making the plan, not the town member and survivor. But, the MOST concerning thing is that you have to make damned sure it's not a trick, and that, you know, don't kill me.

What concerns me the most is that a)You're going to lynch me. BAD. b)You're trusting the Doc protect to save you when we've already seen that Unstoppable is a grantable order. c)If he's not Unstoppable... Reflector. d)If you somehow make it to the next Day... what's to guarantee you'll get the dayvig? Nothing. e)Specially-tailored? That's a crock line imo. f)Players in the first edition of this game could not be targeted by the same player granting Orders more than once. So you'd get the doc, not the vig and you're still dead. g)YOU'RE LYNCHING ME. NONONO. h)Simultaneously winning? BULLSHIT. He's just trying to get to 1-1 with town and win.

I DIDN'T GET DEMOTED TO MORTAL STATUS JUST TO DIE NOW.

That said, if singer is going to go through with this, I might as well chance that I can win by lynching her. I'D RATHER NOT TRUST MY WIN TO AN SK.

[singersigner]

Ok.

I knew there was something weird going on...like I said, I have a hard time connecting the dots. Fucking large games...

Anyway, question for Nacho then, how does "shooting each other at the same time" work? If we're both alive tomorrow, our votes cancel each other out. I mean, what you're saying about inHim and the scum Seraphs is..., but like, this really means that you'd win no matter what, because you can still kill me during the night.

And...I guess I'd have to believe you if I do in fact receive a doctor role and I can use it on myself...though I've never seen a doctor who can protect themselves...

I rereading the last couple of pages...

[Vi]

Vote Count XLV:

Wielder of Fate (not THAT Fate)

Not Voting:

inHimshallibe, Nachomamma8, singersigner

inHim 0 | Nacho 0 | sinsig 0

--With 3 alive, it will take 2 to lynch.

---If all players alive wish to hasten the next rollover, please indicate as much inthread. (Offer subject to me actually being around)

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(52%)

[singersigner]

That said, if singer is going to go through with this, I might as well chance that I can win by lynching her. I'D RATHER NOT TRUST MY WIN TO AN SK.

If what you're saying is true, you can't win without me, so this holds no water.

[Nachomamma8]

Did you get it singer?

[singersigner]

Yes...

But I don't understand how he win together during the day tomorrow...

[Nachomamma8]

I'm going to grant you a dayvig tomorrow, just like I granted you a doctor.
We shoot each other at the same time, and we die at the same time. Both win conditions are fulfilled at the same time and so we win together.

Vote: inHimshallibe

[singersigner]

How does shooting each other at the "same time" work?

One posts before the other.

The first one wins.

[Nachomamma8]

Actions don't resolve simultaneously. Actions resolve at votecounts, as demonstrated by you getting the grant doctor as soon as the votecount was posted. Sometimes Vi will post votecounts because things happen, but as long as we submit the actions at around the same time, we should be fine.

[singersigner]

"should be fine"

Do you have confirmation of this?

[Nachomamma8]

Yes. I'm getting confirmation on how close together we have to submit our kills for it to work.

[singersigner]

Yes. I'm getting confirmation on how close together we have to submit our kills for it to work.

Have you found anything out yet?

[Nachomamma8]

If we submit them in the same rollover period, it will work.
I have confirmation on this.