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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:03 pm

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@Seacore: There is a new backstage vote each day and you can only vote for living players.

Lynch Vote Count


OhGodMyLife (5) – MagnaofIllusion, WrathChild, SGRaaize, Saint, Apokalyptika
00iCon (5) – LynchMePls, OhGodMyLife, Seacore, Kublai Khan, Llamafluff
Nexus (4) – Locke Lamora, farside22, A Gaggle of Geese, AGar
WrathChild (1) – Ythill
SGRaaize (1) –Nexus
AGar (1) – vezokpiraka

Not Voting (1):
00iCon

With 18 alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch.


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Backstage Vote Count:
Top Four Players Go Backstage


Farside22 (9) – farside22, Seacore, SGRaaize, Ythill, Apokalyptika, Locke Lamora, MagnaofIllusion, LynchMePls, Kublai Khan
Ythill (9) – Llamafluff, Seacore, Agar, SGRaaize, Vezokpiraka, Apokalyptika, Nexus, LynchMePls, OhGodMyLife
LynchMePls (9) – Ythill, LynchMePls, Llamafluff, MagnaofIllusion, Apokalyptika, Kublai Khan, Locke Lamora, A Gaggle of Geese, OhGodMyLife
A Gaggle of Geese (7) – Vezokpiraka, WrathChild, AGar, Locke Lamora, Nexus, Ythill, A Gaggle of Geese
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Seacore (4) – Seacore, Vezokpiraka, SGRaaize, Nexus
Locke Lamora (4) – farside22, Saint, Kublai Khan, OhGodMyLife
Llamafluff (2) – Llamafluff, Saint
MagnaofIllusion (2) – MagnaofIllusion, Saint
00iCon (1) – A Gaggle of Geese
Saint (1) – WrathChild

Not Voting (6):
00iCon x3, farside22 x1, AGar x1, WrathChild x1

Today's deadline is March 19 at 6:00 PM EST
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:10 pm

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@KK; in your write up. You mentioned people's meta. I wanted to see if you had a meta of morph and what conclusion you had is so. Plus I wanted to see how honest you would be about it. Considering morph is on my scum list due to meta and I don't recall many a game with you, I'm more feeling you out.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:39 pm

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Yaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ugh
I'm going to do a list and just a few questions I had that left me wondering.


Town:
Ythill
Vezo
SGR
were/LMP

Leaning town:
LL
Saint


Null:
Agar
MOI

Questionable block
GG
OGML
Secore
WC

Scum:
Ghost
Llama
KK/morph
Nexus
Apoka


@MOI: Have you played with apok before? If so what game and how was his play. If not what was the point of post 400?


Elect LMP


Can't say I agree with everything but many things you posted had me thinking about a few other connections to keep in mind.

@Llama: Can you please link the game where you were scum with morph please?
llama wrote: unelect GG
elect Apoc

I encourage a wagon sending Apoc backstage. He isnt posting much, but when he does, he is posting very well. Think this is a great type of player to send back.
WTF? Where? Seriously this is the same person who voted for Agar then unvoted and voted for Vezo to post a case on Agar.

KK: How did you read the game? Did you read from the start or iso players? Why is there so little info in your catch up post?
Do you have links to your meta of OMGL playing this way before?
LL wrote:Would love to know why OGML has a town read on Apok. I've seen the occasional forced vote and a desire to keep options wide open. Not exactly worthy of town-cred.
QFFT!

I put Apok on my scum list for weak hunting. She votes for Agar, then says hey nexus case looks good, but I'm going to vote for Vezo because I want more explanation on the Agar case. Then when she get's ignored she switches to OGML.

LMP's case was the best out there and very eye opening.

unvote:
vote: 00iCon


Hey OGML are you actually going to answer people's questions like why you fluffed a reason for voting for SGR or why you are suspicious of those you have listed?
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:17 pm

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To whoever asked, OGML's 20 through 24 are scummy, and he disappeared for long enough to derail the wagon then came back and hasn't really done much to redeem himself. It's not conclusive, and if I had free reign over today's lynch I'd kill Saint, but it's getting near deadline. I am slightly worried by the other players voting OGML right now, but it seems to me the best option of the current wagons.

farside: Read above. It's pointless to keep a vote on someone who obviously won't be lynched close to deadline. Why shouldn't I be suspicious of someone who casts a vote without any reasoning? Just because I liked the vote doesn't mean that I can't question the motivation behind it.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:16 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Llama wrote:This is mangified by the fact that OMGL is a medium town read to me, and the wagon on him is really ugly looking.
Justify your Town read on OMGL. Seriously. I’ve posted in two ISO fairly clearly why I think he’s scum (ISO1 and the new bit of Cognitive Diss at ISO 16). Please explain why those reasons aren’t valid suspicions.
He reads as town?

I dont really see that much scum motivation for his play. He pushes on SGR, he defends his view and tunnel vision, and eventually is open to change and he justifies the change. There is nothing about his play that screams town, but I dont see much reason to consider him as scum, especially when you compare wagons and who are on them.

The OMGL wagon is one of the most ugly things to me, as I really dont have favorable reads of anyone on it. On someone that you are iffy on, that alone is a decent tell.

Deadline is Saturday and this is a busy week for me, no one is biting on a WC lynch, Ghost-scum is still a fine lynch.

unvote
vote 00con
You know what bugs me? Your OGML town read. I just read your ISO and you not even a single time mention anything he's done to make you think he is town. It's gut, gut, don't like it, gut. You provide no reasoning to why you think OGML is a bad lynch. His play has up until most recently has been nothing but garbage. There is absolutely no basis for such an adamant OGML town read, so much to the point that you call anyone on the OGML wagon scum.

This feels significant so much to the point that I no longer like my OGML vote.

UNVOTE


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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:36 pm

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00iC just took the lead @ L-4. There are exactly four players not currently voting him that have expressed willingness to do so: MoI, LL, AGar, and myself.
00iC wrote:up to reading pg 11. busy today, likely post after tomorrow.
This is 00iC's only post in the game, written more than 48 hours ago. Stalling for deadline shenanigans?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:04 pm

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farside22 wrote:KK: How did you read the game? Did you read from the start or iso players? Why is there so little info in your catch up post?
Do you have links to your meta of OMGL playing this way before?
Kublai Khan (from said catch-up post) wrote:Okay... Just wolfed down the entire game in spurts during the past 24 hours. It'll take a while to digest as I'm much better at analyzing mafia games on the fly instead of old stuff.

But are some gut feelings on everyone. (order and numbers from the Alive list in OP)
To clarify. I both read the entire game from start to finish, then ISOed people to help write that reads-post and check double-check other stuff.

I've played one game (that I can recall) with OhGodMyLife (url=http://www.mafiascum.net/archive/viewtopic.php?t=11392]Mini 786[/url]). He started very similarly by ignoring everything else to vote a hunch then look for who is chainsaw defending. Seems to be his MO. He was town in that game, but I admit I don't have any idea if he does the same thing as scum.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:31 am

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still reading; pg 19. I'm finding this very difficult... so far it seems that everyone is slightly scummy to me. One way to win would be to exploit the special game mechanic. Speculating, i think there's a mafia recruiter or at least a spy. Or the mafia may have the power to 'remove from game'(in a Magic the Gathering sense). Also, I'm more willing to elect players who seem more experienced.
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:39 am

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Ythill wrote:
AGar wrote:
@Ythill
In 625, what was the point of bringing up those Seacore quotes and asking his intentions if you just thought it was skimming in the first place?
  1. I didn't think it was skimming
    in the first place
    . I'm still not completely sure it is. Prima facie, it looks like a lie, but I can't fathom a motive so meh.
  2. In case it wasn't clear, skimming was logged as a scumtell.
  3. Due to the curious nature of the sequence, I'd like to hear thoughts about this form others, specifically those who are listing Seacore as a suspect. I already said this.
1. Ok. I got the impression from the wording of your post that you did believe it to be skimming, somehow.
2. Disagree quite a bit. Scum needs to appear to blend in, try harder yadda yadda. Skimming is counter-productive to optimal scumplay.
3. Fair point.

Elect: LMP


For the posterity and shit.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:53 am

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unvote
AGAr

Vote 00iCon


Just that last posts deserves a vote. But you have more like that.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:17 am

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@Apok: Why did you think that Vezo's lack of explanation is scummier then what Nexus stated? Why when you asked your question to vezo and he/she didn't respond did you not ask again? Do you typically play UTR and low key in games?
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:46 am

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Ythill wrote:What's the point in discrediting my methods? By the time these fruits ripen, I'm going to be confirmed
See this sort of reaction sets my gut afire. You asked why it was so hard to get a wagon on Player Y. I gave you a reason. Did I say your method wasn’t going to be effective? No. I said that player who weren't 'converts' of said style probably got sick of wagonnning for wagonning’s sake (which is what was going on) and might not be quick to follow along once again.

That’s not discrediting your methods. It’s giving you an honest answer about why you were getting so little traction. That you jump to the conclusion that it’s discrediting is suspect.
Ythill wrote:I'm still interested in reading others' opinions of the sequence: namely MoI, KK, and anyone else who has you on his/her radar.
Since you apparently didn’t see my thoughts on the matter I’ll requote them for you -
MoI 636 wrote:I have to say I got a laugh out of Seacore’s “Furc is horrible” post at 619 with him being in the game (albeit in disguise).
I only knew Saint = Furc due to playing in Cyclical Experiment with him as a Hydra with Vi. On my re-read I was curious if he was flying solo but picked up on enough contextual clues I came to the conclusion he was. I don’t see anything unusual in Seacore’s comments (since he ostensibly has no reason to know Furc = Saint) other than they are unintentionally hilarious.

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Llama wrote:I dont really see that much scum motivation for his play.
So you don’t see scum motivation in any of the following?

1. Trying to take his ‘gut’ SGR vote and amplify it with a terriblely reasoned ‘catch’
2. Cognitive Dissonance regarding voicing suspicions and attacking someone for behavior he displayed earlier in the day.
3. Ignoring questions about him and lurking out pressure.

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Farside wrote:@MOI: Have you played with apok before? If so what game and how was his play. If not what was the point of post 400?
Never played with her before.

I looked back at 400 and my answer is –

I was answering Locke’s question. I’m not coming from a standpoint of meta. As stated Apok at least (of those with 5 or fewer posts) was providing reasons and logic (bad logic) for her stances. That’s behavior that is much less likely to be indicative of lurking scum, as opposed to the others that Locke had questioned me about.

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00iCon’s 657
is a big ball of stall and nothingness.

I think the day is winding down and we need a flip to work with. Since there’s too much resistance to OGML that makes ZERO sense I’m doing as stated earlier.

UNVOTE: OGML
VOTE: 00iCon

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@Vezok
– Looking at your ISO (which is pitiful in it’s lack of input and scum-hunting) I would say you are perfect Sacrifice bait. Thanks for playing your normal game. This time it will end up helping Town out when we cycle you out for a useful player.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:47 am

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If Ythill's statement above is correct that should be L-1.
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Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:11 am

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I wonder if magna is going to be shot tonight.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:30 am

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Still not joining that wagon, due to the slot being town and all.

If someone _does_ claim the kill on MoI, we promise not to vote for them at all on D2. :)
Same goes for a farside kill.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:56 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:I wonder if magna is going to be shot tonight.
Of course I am. GG has already stated he's using his factional kill on me N1.

Notice in the post below this he states that "if someone does claim the MoI shot" as a certainty assuming I'll be dead.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:09 am

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Unvote
Vote: 00iCon


Might as well confess 00, I've hammered you.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:38 am

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inb4 townflip
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:37 am

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farside22 wrote:I keep going back and forth on Ghost when I read him. Your case makes me want to step back and re-evaluate everything all over again.
Dude, are you serious? Llama made legitimate points (I tried to make but wasn't as sucessful), Ghostlin is OBVIOUS SCUM
Saint wrote:I've done this as town, in Mafia in Mendo. It might not have anything to do with your alignment, but I see no point in analyzing who is browsing the thread as scum. Surely that can be faked, but I liked your tone in response to that. LMP was really shocked at you saying that, and with good reason. I'd have been shocked too!

Honestly, I don't see anything towny or scummy about it, I don't think you're scum for that, but that was a pretty weird comment.
Nexus wrote:Why do you believe that a short day is better than a long day? Obviously people didn't believe in an OGML lynch, because it got derailed quite quickly. Scumhunt more maybe?

Finally:
vote: SGR
If you look back since my post saying "We should advance" until this post now, you'l see we haven't made any progress at all. Quite frankly, we stand in the same place. And I'm wondering if we can finally lynch Ghostlin.
LynchMePls wrote:I've made two large posts catching up to the game with MOUNTAINS of evidence why Ghostlin is scum. If that doesn't get him lynched, then I don't know what the fuck would. Seriously, did you people read that shit at all?
Plus, I also made a colossal post on my reasoning against Ghostlin.

No one wants to lynch Ghostlin because people want to milk out this day, its ridiculous
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WrathChild wrote:
Ythill wrote:So first you were asking permission for the hammer and now you are blaming us that you didn't?
This is actually a good comment aimed at Nexus.
What was the purpose of this post?
This is giving me the same vibes that were given to me when Locke asked Wrath on why he needed to give a schedule.
You guys really love to suspect Wrath, don't you?
Ghostlin wrote:/picks up prod.

Guys, I'm not doing my 100% best with both games of the Larges I'm in, I'm have trouble catching up, and well, this isn't as fun as I'd thought it'd be.

That's my fault, no one elses, I didn't think the larges would be so problematic and I am sorry to inconvience anyone for it. I'd like to requst replacement, please.
Oh man, that's so BS
animorpherv1 wrote:OK, I've been completely unable to understand wtf is going on.

Replace plz?
Meh, to be fair, this one is a little different, I don't think animorpherv1 is that scummy and I can buy him voting me because I'm an easy target and he just has no idea what was going on
farside22 wrote:I'm going thru and rereading the whole game from the start. I have many notes but this one thing jumped out at the most and I want an explanation.
LlamaFluff wrote:I will wagon for wagon sake. Any of the WC-SGR-Ani triangle of chaos getting a wagon on them will be good for reads on all of them, and im pretty sure SGR is vote leader.

unvote
Vote SGR
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llama wrote: Can someone actually give me a concise ani case right now? As much as I think he is great policy lynch bait, I really cant find much there that justifies a lynch of him.
What changed in between with morph being a person you would wagon for the wagon sake and the very next post where you are asking for a case and calling him great policy lynch bait?
Yep, this is a great point, and one I bought up before on my #58
LlamaFluff wrote:
farside22 wrote:What changed in between with morph being a person you would wagon for the wagon sake and the very next post where you are asking for a case and calling him great policy lynch bait?
Beacuse between those two posts he had gone from zero to six serious votes for reasons that obviously were not wagon for the sake of wagon since there wasnt a wagon there to start. That ment it had to be serious, and I saw no reason that there could be a serious wagon on him, so I tried to force one out, and it more or less reaffirmed my thoughts on him.

Could one of the GG/Sea voters remove them for LMP now? Not sure how anyone can argue that one of them is more town then LMP is.
This is so BS it hurts my head
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7. 00iCon Rep. Ghostlin


Apologies to 00iCon, but this really should be our lynch for today. His early play is filled with Wiki-buzzwords and really shallow & misleading "analysis". He's done a bunch of "gotcha"-scumhunting, which I strongly associate with newb-scum. The timing and reasoning of his votes are also awful, but I think others already covered that.
Strong Scum Read

8. SGRaaize


WTF is up with that "ATATATA" stuff? I don't agree with any of his reads, but I'm not getting consistently strong scum-motivated reasoning behind his actions. That said, I'm not thrilled with his backpedal on Ythill. Also he has a tendency to go out of his way to over-respond to every slightest accusation in order to try to re-write history.
Mild Scum Read
You think me and Ghostlin are partners?
LlamaFluff wrote:@WC - Why is OGML scum?
Same question to Apoc and SGR
Honestly? I don't remember, but I remember seeing good points on him in arguments from another players. Plus, the fact he started going all out on me, but as soon as he started getting heat, hiding behind Mardi Gras and then lurking a lot more than before. I think that's a sign of scummyness
A Gaggle of Geese wrote:oh hey look, MoI flipped scum in aSoS.
The only time chesskid was "trolling" MoI by calling everything he did scum.

*gasp*
Can it be, that CK can read MoI really easily?
METAMETAMETAMETAMETAMETA
Seacore wrote:Ythill, I kind of have to agree with the others. Early wagons for wagon sake may be helpful. Particularly when we're low on information and it looks like, just maybe one of those people may be lynched.
However, the moment we've found some decent wagons, IMHO Ghostlin and OGML both fit this category, jumping off them to go and deliberately wagon somebody else to "see what shakes loose" isn't as interesting. That's why I didn't follow you. I found enough suspects for my Day 1 and I don't think declaring "I might come back to this lynch but first I'll go and place fake pressure on somebody else" is going to provide useful information.
I don't think you're scum for it. I don't think others think you're scum for it. But thats why I didn't follow you.

Did anybody explicitly say that Saint = Furc? I saw people mentioning Furc, but I see people in other games mentioning Fate and other notables when they're not in the game, often taking their name in vain.

Also, I want to not answer Furc, because there's no point. But I'll do it this once more.
Furc, I don't see how anything in my answer to you is me appealing to the town rather than answering you. I've also seen your ability with the English language, and it's incredibly lacking. This is not a slight, it's probably not your first language and having two is better than me, as I only know English. Still, please try not to base your reads over your interpretation of my grammar, because your interpretation is wrong. There is nothing in my response to you to imply direction to the town rather than to you.
I agree, let's lynch Ghostlin or whoever substituted him

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Vote: Whoever Ghostlin substituted
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:38 am

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FIX'D
farside22 wrote:I keep going back and forth on Ghost when I read him. Your case makes me want to step back and re-evaluate everything all over again.
Dude, are you serious? Llama made legitimate points (I tried to make but wasn't as sucessful), Ghostlin is OBVIOUS SCUM
Saint wrote:I've done this as town, in Mafia in Mendo. It might not have anything to do with your alignment, but I see no point in analyzing who is browsing the thread as scum. Surely that can be faked, but I liked your tone in response to that. LMP was really shocked at you saying that, and with good reason. I'd have been shocked too!
Honestly, I don't see anything towny or scummy about it, I don't think you're scum for that, but that was a pretty weird comment.
Nexus wrote:Why do you believe that a short day is better than a long day? Obviously people didn't believe in an OGML lynch, because it got derailed quite quickly. Scumhunt more maybe?

Finally:
vote: SGR
If you look back since my post saying "We should advance" until this post now, you'l see we haven't made any progress at all. Quite frankly, we stand in the same place. And I'm wondering if we can finally lynch Ghostlin.
LynchMePls wrote:I've made two large posts catching up to the game with MOUNTAINS of evidence why Ghostlin is scum. If that doesn't get him lynched, then I don't know what the fuck would. Seriously, did you people read that shit at all?
Plus, I also made a colossal post on my reasoning against Ghostlin.

No one wants to lynch Ghostlin because people want to milk out this day, its ridiculous
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WrathChild wrote:
Ythill wrote:So first you were asking permission for the hammer and now you are blaming us that you didn't?
This is actually a good comment aimed at Nexus.
What was the purpose of this post?
This is giving me the same vibes that were given to me when Locke asked Wrath on why he needed to give a schedule.
You guys really love to suspect Wrath, don't you?
Ghostlin wrote:/picks up prod.

Guys, I'm not doing my 100% best with both games of the Larges I'm in, I'm have trouble catching up, and well, this isn't as fun as I'd thought it'd be.

That's my fault, no one elses, I didn't think the larges would be so problematic and I am sorry to inconvience anyone for it. I'd like to requst replacement, please.
Oh man, that's so BS
animorpherv1 wrote:OK, I've been completely unable to understand wtf is going on.

Replace plz?
Meh, to be fair, this one is a little different, I don't think animorpherv1 is that scummy and I can buy him voting me because I'm an easy target and he just has no idea what was going on
farside22 wrote:I'm going thru and rereading the whole game from the start. I have many notes but this one thing jumped out at the most and I want an explanation.
LlamaFluff wrote:I will wagon for wagon sake. Any of the WC-SGR-Ani triangle of chaos getting a wagon on them will be good for reads on all of them, and im pretty sure SGR is vote leader.

unvote
Vote SGR
Very next post:
llama wrote: Can someone actually give me a concise ani case right now? As much as I think he is great policy lynch bait, I really cant find much there that justifies a lynch of him.
What changed in between with morph being a person you would wagon for the wagon sake and the very next post where you are asking for a case and calling him great policy lynch bait?
Yep, this is a great point, and one I bought up before on my #58
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farside22 wrote:What changed in between with morph being a person you would wagon for the wagon sake and the very next post where you are asking for a case and calling him great policy lynch bait?
Beacuse between those two posts he had gone from zero to six serious votes for reasons that obviously were not wagon for the sake of wagon since there wasnt a wagon there to start. That ment it had to be serious, and I saw no reason that there could be a serious wagon on him, so I tried to force one out, and it more or less reaffirmed my thoughts on him.

Could one of the GG/Sea voters remove them for LMP now? Not sure how anyone can argue that one of them is more town then LMP is.
This is so BS it hurts my head
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7. 00iCon Rep. Ghostlin


Apologies to 00iCon, but this really should be our lynch for today. His early play is filled with Wiki-buzzwords and really shallow & misleading "analysis". He's done a bunch of "gotcha"-scumhunting, which I strongly associate with newb-scum. The timing and reasoning of his votes are also awful, but I think others already covered that.
Strong Scum Read

8. SGRaaize


WTF is up with that "ATATATA" stuff? I don't agree with any of his reads, but I'm not getting consistently strong scum-motivated reasoning behind his actions. That said, I'm not thrilled with his backpedal on Ythill. Also he has a tendency to go out of his way to over-respond to every slightest accusation in order to try to re-write history.
Mild Scum Read
You think me and Ghostlin are partners?
LlamaFluff wrote:@WC - Why is OGML scum?
Same question to Apoc and SGR
Honestly? I don't remember, but I remember seeing good points on him in arguments from another players. Plus, the fact he started going all out on me, but as soon as he started getting heat, hiding behind Mardi Gras and then lurking a lot more than before. I think that's a sign of scummyness
A Gaggle of Geese wrote:oh hey look, MoI flipped scum in aSoS.
The only time chesskid was "trolling" MoI by calling everything he did scum.

*gasp*
Can it be, that CK can read MoI really easily?
METAMETAMETAMETAMETAMETA
Seacore wrote:Ythill, I kind of have to agree with the others. Early wagons for wagon sake may be helpful. Particularly when we're low on information and it looks like, just maybe one of those people may be lynched.
However, the moment we've found some decent wagons, IMHO Ghostlin and OGML both fit this category, jumping off them to go and deliberately wagon somebody else to "see what shakes loose" isn't as interesting. That's why I didn't follow you. I found enough suspects for my Day 1 and I don't think declaring "I might come back to this lynch but first I'll go and place fake pressure on somebody else" is going to provide useful information.
I don't think you're scum for it. I don't think others think you're scum for it. But thats why I didn't follow you.

Did anybody explicitly say that Saint = Furc? I saw people mentioning Furc, but I see people in other games mentioning Fate and other notables when they're not in the game, often taking their name in vain.

Also, I want to not answer Furc, because there's no point. But I'll do it this once more.
Furc, I don't see how anything in my answer to you is me appealing to the town rather than answering you. I've also seen your ability with the English language, and it's incredibly lacking. This is not a slight, it's probably not your first language and having two is better than me, as I only know English. Still, please try not to base your reads over your interpretation of my grammar, because your interpretation is wrong. There is nothing in my response to you to imply direction to the town rather than to you.
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I agree, let's lynch Ghostlin or whoever substituted him

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Vote: Whoever Ghostlin substituted
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:39 am

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Now... it doesn't matter.
Because Ghostlin... is already dead

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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:23 am

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In the twilight, that is the time for lies.

Z
orya Vechernyaya was born in the evening. They called her the evening star; one of three sisters, she was the first to die. That too, happened in the evening.

The gods and spirits and folk gathered around a great bonfire in the clearing of snow-capped woods. Its flames spouted tall, eager to meet its first victim. And quickly the people chose Zorya Vechnernyaya. “But I am the
real
evening star,” she protested.

They did not believe her. They cast their votes in quick succession: LynchMePls, aye. OhGodMyLife, aye. Seacore, aye. On and on it went until LynchMePls declared: “I have hammered, your fate is sealed. Now tell us your true name!”

But before Zorya could reply, SGRaaize added his voice: “Yes, I support this wagon. Or am I too late to vote?”

He wasn’t. The people cast Zorya into the fire before LynchMePls could explain his intentions. Zorya Vechernyaya went lost in the flames and disappeared into smoke. The other watched the fire for some kind of sign, but as twilight grew on someone pointed to the stars. The evening star was gone.

She was Zorya Vechernyaya, and she was not telling lies.


00iCon, Zorya Vechernyaya (Old God), Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1



The following players will Go Backstage tonight:
LynchMePls, farside22, Ythill, and A Gaggle of Geese.


Spoiler: Final Vote Count of Day 1
00iCon (10) – LynchMePls, OhGodMyLife, Seacore, Kublai Khan, Llamafluff, farside22 AGar, vezokpiraka, MagnaofIllusion, SGRaaize
OhGodMyLife (2) – Saint, Apokalyptika
Nexus (2) – Locke Lamora, A Gaggle of Geese
WrathChild (1) – Ythill
SGRaaize (1) –Nexus

Not Voting (2): 00iCon, WrathChild
Spoiler: Final Backstage Vote Count of Day 1
LynchMePls (11) – Ythill, LynchMePls, Llamafluff, MagnaofIllusion, Apokalyptika, Kublai Khan, Locke Lamora, A Gaggle of Geese, OhGodMyLife, farside22, AGar
Farside22 (9) – farside22, Seacore, SGRaaize, Ythill, Apokalyptika, Locke Lamora, MagnaofIllusion, LynchMePls, Kublai Khan
Ythill (9) – Llamafluff, Seacore, Agar, SGRaaize, Vezokpiraka, Apokalyptika, Nexus, LynchMePls, OhGodMyLife
A Gaggle of Geese (7) – Vezokpiraka, WrathChild, AGar, Locke Lamora, Nexus, Ythill, A Gaggle of Geese
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Seacore (4) – Seacore, Vezokpiraka, SGRaaize, Nexus
Locke Lamora (4) – farside22, Saint, Kublai Khan, OhGodMyLife
Llamafluff (2) – Llamafluff, Saint
MagnaofIllusion (2) – MagnaofIllusion, Saint
00iCon (1) – A Gaggle of Geese
Saint (1) – WrathChild

Not Voting (4): 00iCon x3, WrathChild x1

It is now Night 1. Send me your actions if you have them. Night 1 ends on March 19 at 4:00 PM EST
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:47 am

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Fate replaces Nexus, effective immediately.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:25 am

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Just because you’re small, doesn’t mean you got no power.

I
am reminded of a story, of how Anansi the spider tricked crocodile out of his eyes. One day Anansi was spinning his web near the watering hole where all the animals were laying out in the sun. Then crocodile came up and caught his head in Anansi’s web.

“Damn you Anansi,” the crocodile said with strands of web over his eyes, “I’m trying to eat water buffalo and I got stuck in your damn web.”

Anansi laughed at crocodile. “You can’t see my web, its too small for your eyes. Hey crocodile, you want to use my eyes while you hunt?”

“Thank you Anansi, you are too kind.” So crocodile traded eyes with Anansi and went off to hunt. But crocodile was not used to seeing through six little spider eyes, and could not catch anything. Frustrated he went back to Anansi’s web. “Anansi, I want my eyes back now. I can’t see straight!”

But Anansi liked crocodile’s big eyes, so he picked up two smooth stones and handed them to crocodile instead. Anansi got his six little eyes back, which he placed around his new big eyes, and he laughed again.

“Anansi you liar, these aren’t my eyes!” says crocodile. He swung his big head back and forth but could not see a thing with those rocks.

“Looks like you’ll have to learn to see with your big nose crocodile.” Anansi said, and laughed as he ran away. And from that day on spiders had eight eyes, and were always good at seeing things other animals couldn’t.



vezokpiraka, Mr. Nancy (Old God), Tracker, Killed Night 1

Ythill, A Kitsune (Goddess of MMORPGs), Mafia Goon, Killed Night 1


It is now Day 2. With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Not Voting (15): A Gaggle of Geese, Fate, LynchMePls, MagnaofIllusion, OhGodMyLife, SGRaaize, Saint, Seacore, Apokalyptika, Llamafluff, Kublai Khan, AGar, WrathChild, farside22, Locke Lamora

Day 2 ends on April 9 at 4:00 PM EST
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:47 am

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Anansi Boys </3

Time to re-read ythill, I don't think farside is scum now (with ythill), or it's less likely due to something from backstage. LET US SEE.

Ooh, Llama's scummier though.

vaguely tipsy posting.
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