American Gods Mafia - Game over

[Faraday]

happy birthday OGML!

unvote vote kk

[Seacore]

Can we please lynch OGML? I've got a birthday noose right here.

[A Gaggle of Geese]

happy birthday OGML!

unvote vote kk

^^^ FUCK YEAH AGREED.

[Seacore]

llama, can we agree on lynching OGML if nobody is willing to even look at LMP?

I don't want KK lynched, I've found little scummy there.

unvote. Vote OGML

"Oh look, Seacore is vote hoping again"

No, I just want MoI, LMP and OGML dead.

[Kublai Khan]

KK, while you're here, will you respond to me, rather than just to Farside?

Am I stupid and am borrowing from a scum buddy's idea?
Is my scum buddy stupid and posting an idea based on my (potentially fake) claim?
Or am I stupid and am borrowing from a town player's idea?

Because if I'm lying, somebody is being stupid.

I was waiting for A Gaggle of Geese's reaction. Doesn't anyone find it interesting that he didn't comment on it at all and he's reacting to it by voting me?

I'm leaning towards 2 right now. chesskid3 is impulsive enough to be enamoured with a mechanic and blurt it out at an inappropriate time.

I think we should all claim whether or not we are "Old Gods" starting with Kublai.

....and then OhGodMyLife votes for me without even letting me reply.

Seriously? farside22 thinks that OhGodMyLife is more town than me? With posts like this?

farside22 claims to have taken off the Fate-blinders, but is refusing to recognize that OhGodMyLife has gone from "sacrifice me!" when things looked bad after Ythill scum-flipped to pushing for my lynch over his. And everyone is voting for me why? Because farside22 said so? Her whole case on me based on the idea that I'm scum because I'm not consistently keeping the same reads (aka I'm changing my mind as the game evolves).

How about people wake the fuck up and realize that changing reads isn't scummy, but changing behavior is?

[Seacore]

So, right now you think I'm scum?
Are you happy to wait for farside's plan to confirm me?

If so, join me on the OGML wagon.

[Kublai Khan]

I don't have 100% confidence in farside22's ability to lead town correctly. And I see that the plan relies on SECRET BACKSTAGE SHENANIGANS (again).

[A Gaggle of Geese]

I didn't comment personally as I don't really have anything to say, other than it seems pretty obv we're not buddies now (but I knew that before so w/e)

From the choices left you're the scummiest, since people want to leave MOI and llama has one more at least.


EBWOP: Don't worry I got it KK. TEAM ON MY BACK.

[Seacore]

Its not that complex KK, it's actually using Backstage well.

Farside either has an ability or knows somebody backstage has one. She'll instruct that person to target me. Tomorrow they claim (possibly through code to not completely out themselves) whether it was successful or not.
This is a good plan, because scum can't automatically kill whoever it is doing the action so I can actually be cleared.

However, it does assume that there are no scum backstage.

[Saint]

Yeah MoI, I am just goofing off now. That claim was so not serious I almost started it with "would you all believe me if I said ___"

That being said, I don't want to give up that easily or go quietly, I want to kill some scum.

[Saint]

vote: Kublai Khan

[Locke Lamora]

Seacore's claim seems fairly easy to test and I think it makes sense to do that. I find myself leaning towards believing MoI's claim but I remain unconvinced about its place in a setup with a revive mechanic; it certainly seems like the combination gives town a major advantage and I would expect a strong scum counterbalance to that power if it were to be true. Again, it is something that can be tested, albeit not quite so easily.

Would prefer an OGML lynch to a KK one. Other than the insistence that we delay the sacrifice, I don't really find much scummy about KK's play. Since he stopped being a prime lynch target, OGML has basically fallen back on hopping on the convenient bandwagons and really hasn't shown any interest in doing anything else. The last time he did anything of substance was pushing the Apok mislynch, so I'm happy with a:

Vote: OGML

[Saint]

unvote;
vote: OGML

[MagnaofIllusion]

Not a ton of time to post right now.

Call me non-plussed about Farside's plan. Confirming Seacore's role as a commuter doesn't necessarily confirm his alignment, especially in a game with a Serial Killer. That said obviously there is strong enough support.

Back to my 'Number 1 for 3 Days running' suspect.

UNVOTE: Seacore
VOTE: OGML

All the points I have made previously still stand.

1. Lack of scum-hunting and coasting.
2. Ythill's "not the lynch today play" Day 1.

Add to that that I don't have a significant scum read on KK at all and the course of action is obv.

[farside22]

I don't have 100% confidence in farside22's ability to lead town correctly. And I see that the plan relies on SECRET BACKSTAGE SHENANIGANS (again).

And? You think the mafia should be let in on the idea and the plan? Do you want to lynch Seacore with the possibility his role can not only be proven but is almost always a town role?
If so why?

Seriously? farside22 thinks that OhGodMyLife is more town than me? With posts like this?

farside22 claims to have taken off the Fate-blinders, but is refusing to recognize that OhGodMyLife has gone from "sacrifice me!" when things looked bad after Ythill scum-flipped to pushing for my lynch over his. And everyone is voting for me why? Because farside22 said so? Her whole case on me based on the idea that I'm scum because I'm not consistently keeping the same reads (aka I'm changing my mind as the game evolves).

How about people wake the fuck up and realize that changing reads isn't scummy, but changing behavior is?

OGML is on my radar. I have a few issues that bother me. They concern you and Agar. (yes I know Llama's claim and it still does not discount GF).

[farside22]

Its not that complex KK, it's actually using Backstage well.

Farside either has an ability or knows somebody backstage has one. She'll instruct that person to target me. Tomorrow they claim (possibly through code to not completely out themselves) whether it was successful or not.
This is a good plan, because scum can't automatically kill whoever it is doing the action so I can actually be cleared.

However, it does assume that there are no scum backstage.

Remind me to smack you later.

[farside22]

Not a ton of time to post right now.

Call me non-plussed about Farside's plan. Confirming Seacore's role as a commuter doesn't necessarily confirm his alignment, especially in a game with a Serial Killer. That said obviously there is strong enough support.
.

I have yet to see commuter be a scum role. You have links or games you ever saw a scum hider or commuter I would be open to this WIFOM.
I have been a town commuter in one game with a SK so.........for me it's not outside the realms to see town commuter.

[Jahudo]

”Did the Irish come to America in the dark ages, you ask me?
Of course they did, and the Welsh, and the Vikings, while the Africans from the West Coast-what in later days they called the Slave Coast or the Ivory Coast-they were trading with South America, and the Chinese visited Oregon a couple of times-they called it Fu Sang”

Still searching for SGRaaize replacement.

Resurrection Vote Count

7 Votes Required

Apokalyptika (9) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, Seacore, OhGodMyLife, Locke Lamora, LynchMePls, AGar, MagnaofIllusion

Not Voting (4):

SGRaaize, Saint, Kublai Khan, WrathChild

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Sacrifice Vote Count

7 Votes Required

Saint (8) – WrathChild, AGar, MagnaofIllusion, LynchMePls, Seacore, farside22, OhGodMyLife, Locke Lamora
Kublai Khan (1) – Saint
Seacore (1) – Llamafluff

Not Voting (3):

A Gaggle of Geese, SGRaaize, Kublai Khan

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Lynch Vote Count

7 Votes Required

OhGodMyLife (4) – Seacore, Locke Lamora, Saint, MagnaofIllusion
Kublai Khan (3) – farside22, OhGodMyLife, A Gaggle of Geese
Seacore (2) – LynchMePls, Kublai Khan
MagnaofIllusion (2) – AGar, WrathChild

Not Voting (2):

SGRaaize, Llamafluff

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Backstage Vote Count:

Top Four Players Go Backstage

Farside22 (6) – A Gaggle of Geese, LynchMePls, WrathChild, Saint, farside22, Locke Lamora
Llamafluff (6) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, WrathChild, Kublai Khan, Locke Lamora
A Gaggle of Geese (5) – A Gaggle of Geese, Llamafluff, farside22, Seacore, LynchMePls
Locke Lamora (5) – Seacore, OhGodMyLife, Saint, Locke Lamora, MagnaofIllusion
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LynchMePls (3) – Llamafluff, LynchMePls, MagnaofIllusion
Seacore (2) – Seacore, Saint
Kublai Khan (1) – Kublai Khan
OhGodMyLife (1) – OhGodMyLife

Not Voting (10):

SGRaaize x3, AGar x3, WrathChild x1, OhGodMyLife x1, MagnaofIllusion x1, Kublai Khan x1

Day 3 ends on April 12 at 6:00 PM EST

[WrathChild]

As alluded to earlier, I can get behind an OGML wagon.

UNVOTE, VOTE: OGML

[OhGodMyLife]

Yeah I was pretty sure I would get lynched eventually in this game. At least now I can stop caring altogether.

Unvote, Vote: OGML

[OhGodMyLife]

Vanilla Town, by the way. Not an Old God.

[OhGodMyLife]

Once again this is why I would have preferred to have been sacrificed yesterday, so scum wouldn't have this dumb wagon to fall back on yet again.

[Kublai Khan]

Vanilla Town, by the way. Not an Old God.

What are you if not an Old God?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I was waiting for A Gaggle of Geese's reaction. Doesn't anyone find it interesting that he didn't comment on it at all and he's reacting to it by voting me?

I'm leaning towards 2 right now. chesskid3 is impulsive enough to be enamoured with a mechanic and blurt it out at an inappropriate time.

File this (especially the second part) in my ‘To be Mulled’ folder.

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So, right now you think I'm scum?
Are you happy to wait for farside's plan to confirm me?

What do you know exactly about the plan that provides Farside with information about your alignment? Just curious, because all I see so far is “I can prove Seacore is a Commuter”.

To quote KMD – ‘Proven ability does not equal proven alignment”

However, it does assume that there are no scum backstage.

Given your reads of myself, OMG, Llama and LMP as scum the current Backstage crew would have scum. How does this factor into your thoughts on the plan?

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I have yet to see commuter be a scum role. You have links or games you ever saw a scum hider or commuter I would be open to this WIFOM.

Pretty sure I have seen one here on MS. It wasn’t in a game I played so I’m going to have to dig. I think it was either a Kise or xRECKx game so that should help me. I’ll post it when I find it.

I agree that Commuter is more likely to be Town than Scum. I just am not willing to rule out the concept that proven Seacore as Commuter can’t be scum. Especially given his play.

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Once again this is why I would have preferred to have been sacrificed yesterday, so scum wouldn't have this dumb wagon to fall back on yet again.

Then why didn’t you argue to replace Saint as today’s sacrifice so he could be lynched? That would mean I might have been able to use Saint’s ability to off scum or perhaps prove Seacore’s ability directly.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Didn’t take as long as I thought –

Kise’s Square Enix I was the game in question I was remembering. May be more occurances that I do not know about.

10. Chronopie - Cagnazzo (Archfiend Commuter) - Lynched Day 5

Archfiends were one of two Mafia factions. Now I grant you that we are unlikely to have two Mafia factions here but I don’t see a Serial Killer as ruling out the possibility for a Scum Commuter.