[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[Empking]

Gunsmith

2 Goons

5 Townies who each have a 2/5 chance of being a Gunsmith.

[Mr. Flay]

Uh.... for the love of Heisenberg, why??

[Olinea]

Do Gunsmiths carry guns?

Also, no idea how the balance on this would work, but I had an idea...

One at a Time

(this name sucks)

2

Mafia Goons

1

Odd-Night Cop

1

Even-Night Doctor

3

Vanilla Townies

OR

2

Mafia Goons

1

Odd-Night Doctor

1

Even-Night Cop

3

Vanilla Townies

[Tragedy]

To be honest, Olinea.
That game would at least last 1-2 Nights.
Maybe 3, if town/scum is lucky.
But it's pretty disadvantageous since if Even Cop dies on N1, then yeah.
Sucks a lot.

[Olinea]

To be honest, Olinea.
That game would at least last 1-2 Nights.
Maybe 3, if town/scum is lucky.

Um, yeah. That's how many nights are in 7 player games. What's your point?

[Empking]

Mr. Flay:
1. Gunsmiths are awesome.
2. Immune to breakage.

Do Gunsmiths carry guns?

Also, no idea how the balance on this would work, but I had an idea...

One at a Time

(this name sucks)

2

Mafia Goons

1

Odd-Night Cop

1

Even-Night Doctor

3

Vanilla Townies

OR

2

Mafia Goons

1

Odd-Night Doctor

1

Even-Night Cop

3

Vanilla Townies

A similar game is already in existence.

[Olinea]

Can you link me the setup?

EDIT: Alternating 9P. Never mind.

[Empking]

I lookede forb this link I'm going to darn well post it! http://67.222.17.61/forum/viewtopic.php ... hlight=odd*

[Meransiel]

Deranged Mafia

2 1-shot bulletproof Mafia Goons
1 Serial Killer
1 Noble Killer
1 Spree Killer
10 1-shot Bulletproof Townies

Serial Killer - kills 1 person per night, wins when everyone else dies. Does not ignore bulletproof
Noble Killer - kills 1 person per night ignoring bulletproof, wins when everyone dies. Cannot kill helpless people (people that don't have bulletproof)
Spree Killer - kills 2 people every odd night. Can only kill Pro-Town Players. Does not ignore bulletproof.

[Empking]

Not mafia.

[Meransiel]

Fixed

[Empking]

Random roles are lame.

[Meransiel]

They're not random.

[Empking]

Spree Killer - kills 2 people at

random

every even night, wins when everyone else dies. Does not ignore bulletproof

[Meransiel]

Oh. I thought you meant roles that have arbitrary wincons/skillsets.


If random roles are lame, why do I see many faith-healers?

[Empking]

If random roles are lame, why do I see many faith-healers?

Drunks. Lots and lots of drunks..

I'd reccomend changing the Spree Killer so his kill doesn't reduce bulletproofs (and goes after the Mafia and vanilla SK's shots). I would also reccomend boosting the SK's power by giving them a bulletproof vest too.

[Meransiel]

Actually, I have a better idea. Look up after a while.

EDIT: Done

[Empking]

Does the Spree Killer ignore bulletproof or not?

Norkmally I don't like large games but

Second Deranged

[Meransiel]

No, he doesn't ignore it, but he DOES reduce it.

Also, thanks.

[Twistedspoon]

interesting....
I'd place my money on Mafia though.

[Empking]

No, he doesn't ignore it, but he DOES reduce it.

You might want to add that to the description.

[Meransiel]

interesting....
I'd place my money on Mafia though.

What's your point? All games are mafia sided. So...do you Third?

[Herodotus]

I found a problem with your setup: you have three serial killers (in addition to a mafia group).

This is bad because the winners will be determined primarily through cross-killing and special abilities, not scumhunting or other skill based factors.

You don't see "many" faith healers. There was one recent setup that wasn't entirely terrible that included a pair of them. They're still not recommended, and some of us tried to help remove the randomness they introduced.

[Meransiel]

The winner will not be determined solely by croskills. Note that the Noble Killer can't kill SKs, and the Spree Killer can't kill SK's, nor mafia.

I do agree though that optimum town play is to lynch SKs early and not go after the mafia, to reduce body count. It is not overly imbalanced, however.

[bvoigt]

Since we've moved from 12 to 13-player minis, would setups like C9++ benefit from an extra townie?