[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[Antihero]

Since we've moved from 12 to 13-player minis, would setups like C9++ benefit from an extra townie?

C9++ already is town biased. No

[Tragedy]

All For One

2 Mafia Goons
-Factional Night Kill
-Wins When Everyone Else Is Dead

1 Serial Killer
-Night Kill
-Wins When Everyone Else is Dead

8 Bodyguards
-Protects Somebody During The Night
-Dies If Target Has Been Targeted
-Wins When All Anti-Town Players Are Dead

~ Day Start
~ Regular Lynch Mechanics

[hitogoroshi]

optimal play is for bodyguards to never use their ability I think

[Tragedy]

Of course; it's not Compulsive.
But if you need to protect somebody; like other townies, then yes. That too.
But then again, they're suiciding doctors.

[animorpherv1]

Reverse CPR doctors o_0

[Quilford]

Nominate: New Blood Mafia -1 Townie

finally something of Meransiel's I can appreciate xDDD

[Mist7676]

Second

I forgot to nominate it earlier

[edmund.angles]

New try for Witch-hunt.
First try town was horribly underpowered.
The point of the game is similar to Political Conspiracy, people should be forced to decide if the deaths are accidental or intentional.

9 players

50% chance of:
1 sane cop
1 insane cop
1 bulletproof townie
4 vanillas
2 mafia

50% chance of:
1 sane cop
1 insane cop
1 plague-immune townie (same PM as bullet-proof)
4 vanillas
2 death millers (VT PM)
Random (non-death miller) player targeted by plague each night.
Everyone loses on the third lynch, everyone wins on a 'No more lynches' vote.

[Hoppster]

optimal play is for bodyguards to never use their ability I think

Yeah, I'd say so. Otherwise, other bodyguards could also be protecting that player, and town risk losing more than 1 bodyguard protecting 1 player from a NK.

[Faraday]

Eh, it's more that, you could be stopping a crosskill I'd say. And for what? Not like you're protecting a cop or a tracker, just another bodyguard. Although what'd happen if multiple people protected the same guy? them all dying doesn't make sense, lol.

[Tragedy]

If more than 2 people protect one, no one will die.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Well I haven't posted here in a while, but here it goes.

Mafia of the Gods

1x Cop
1x Pair of picky Lovers
6x Townies

1x Pair of picky SK Lovers

1x Mafia Goon
1x Pair of picky Mafia Lovers


Ok so at night picky lovers have two choices. They can either do nothing, and live to the next day, or they can choose to have one of themselves killed, but keep the other one alive.

The benifit of that is say I was your lover,,, well for your safety you might want to kill me at night.

[chkflip]

I think it'd be more entertaining to make it a chance for mafia/town or mafia/SK or SK/town picky lover groups.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Hmmmm... maybe.
I was just trying to see how people would react to the picky lovers idea.

[gandalf5166]

Wait, so is that choice made independently of the other member?

[chkflip]

I don't think it'd be a group effort.

A: "I'm going to kill you, cool?"
B: "Screw that, you should die."
A: "NUH UH!"
B: "YEAH HUH!"

And so on.

[Olinea]

What's the benefit in killing off your Lover? If they're of confirmed alignment to you, why wouldn't you just choose "no action"?

[gandalf5166]

What's the benefit in killing off your Lover? If they're of confirmed alignment to you, why wouldn't you just choose "no action"?

Because if they're going to get NK'd, you'll die too.

[chkflip]

And if they both decide to off the other? That's potentially seven deaths in a single night.

Go town.

[Mist7676]

Player a and b picky lovers:
I'm gonna kill you so we both dont die!
Kills player a

Player a town picky lover has died
Player b town picky lover has shot in the night

[Tragedy]

Well, chkflip.
It entirely gives more advantage to town.

[drmyshottyizsik]

And if they both decide to off the other? That's potentially seven deaths in a single night.

Go town.

Both people have to agree that someone will die. Then after that random.org will choose who dies.

[gandalf5166]

And if they both decide to off the other? That's potentially seven deaths in a single night.

Go town.

Both people have to agree that someone will die. Then after that random.org will choose who dies.

Oh, that's stupid.

[mykonian]

Mykonians 7p setups.

1 mafia lightning rod
1 mafia goon
5 vanilla townies.

EV=65% for scum

By adding one claimable role:

1 mafia lightning rod
1 mafia goon
1 gunless vig
4 vanilla townies

the EV = 55% for town.


2 mafia goons (killing via poison mechanic, target dies next night)
1 compulsive one shot vig.
4 townies.

EV is about 74% for scum. However, town gets three shots before scum gets their kill and only one scum shot isn’t forced. There is a chance of over 70% that this goes to a 3p lylo.

I ran the last game, and a variantion on the first two, which both proved to be fun. I think that they aren’t much worse as open, and especially the third one was more suited for an open game then a closed one.

[Empking]

I don't like the EV of the second but I like the first. Can you boost the power of the third town up a tad?

Edit: Second the First One.