A Gentleman's Game of Guile, Subterfuge, and Intrigue (Fin)

[AurorusVox]

InHim: Case on Feysal?

[inHimshallibe]

Well, just pointed something out. The start of all this hinges on me reading you as town, which I think is pretty obv...

Continuing to dig to make sure this trio makes sense.

[Wraith]

No, my good sir AurorusVox. The format for ballot-casting is relatively strict in interpretation.

Votecount 3.1

imaginality

(0)

:

vezokpiraka

,

AurorusVox, PhD.

ToastyToast

(1)

:

inHimshallibe

inHimshallibe

(1)

:

ToastyToast

Not Voting

(6)

:

Sir Hoppster, Feysal, jilynne1991, imaginality, vezokpiraka, AurorusVox, PhD.

[inHimshallibe]

In particular, I see two of our distinguished guests accusing each other at the drop of a hat. I have encountered interpersonal feuds before, and I have to wonder if this could be an instance of such. The feud, if indeed it is one, would be something I would be weary to draw conclusions from.

Setting up not having to attack Hoppster for the ragematch against Twistedspoon.

After a moderate amount of reading, I am once more up to date on recent events. At this time, many of my reads are still in their formative stages, however I do have some observations from the past three pages worth commenting on.

On the topic of vezokpiraka, his joking approach to the game, posting in a purposely heinous accent, strikes me as carefree and therefore townish. I have understood that some of our esteemed members find him suspicious for lack of substance in his posts, and for his attack on kr0b. However, has it not been said repeatedly that not contributing is typical of him as town, by the same people who find him suspicious no less? I am vaguely disturbed by the assertion that he should be policy lynched as town and suspected as scum for the exact same behaviour. I have yet to make a more detailed background check on TheLonging to see what his stance on policy lynches has been on past games, but for now I can say that I do not like this type of damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't argumentation.

Completely non-committal on the policy lynch talk, not wanting

As for kr0b, I am not certain I understand the basis of the case on him. My own read on him is undecided, though I was pleased by his responses to the points raised against him. Particularly what he said about the intricacies of the style of speech we have adopted making it harder to draw conclusions from the way people express their thoughts mirrorred my own thoughts perfectly. As a matter of fact, I imagined none other than Oscar Wilde, who was known for being witty with his words, when reading again his response to imaginality regarding his use of the word perhaps. I do believe that his choice of words is no more than a red herring, and dwelling on that subject is fruitless.

Undecided but town.

I admit that some of the points raised against kr0b later on have merit, but I am still confused as to the cause of imaginality's original vote on him.

Voting first and providing reasons later does not sound like a good way of seeking villains in our midst, particularly when the best of those reasons only occurred after the original vote. This makes imaginality look suspect in my eyes, though I am somewhat appeased by his apparent willingness to look in other directions.

Finally, I find that in the recent back-to-back between kpaca and Twistedspoon, it is decidedly kpaca who comes on top.

OHAI GUIZE DEM POINTS ABOUT KROB ARE GOOD BUT I DON'T WANT TO VOTE MY PARTNER SO I'LL INSTEAD PICK ON THE ORIGINS OF THE WAGON.

Undecided but town but maybe scum. HMM.

[ToastyToast]

The case on Toast is a matter of process of elimination. Given the role evidence present, I will risk the game on Sirs V. Piraka, Imaginality, and Jilynne. Using basic assumptions about making rulesets, I feel it is HIGHLY likely there are three Villains still present in this establishment. As such, I can further eliminate myself. What remains is the confidence in my townreads of A. Vox and Hoppster. Aurorus Vox, PhD continues to provide content and analysis, while my read of Sir Hoppster was based on a Day 1 town v. town read between himself and Twistedspoon, Esq.

Lolbadcase
I can pretty much say: just cross out my name and put in your own.
Your opinions help me maintain the fact that I think yo and Hoppster are scum together, with AV being the other possibility, but not one I am sure about.

Your Feysal case consists of 5 one-liners and a bunch of assumptions. lolfailagain.

[quote="inHim]I've been guessing for a long while, and I'm damned certain by this point in my playing career.[/quote]
If your guesses are that great, why are no scum dead? also guessing + damned certain? DOES NOT COMPUTE

[inHimshallibe]

Meh, that wasn't the complete Feysal case. Also, since they're one-liners, I figure they'll be easy to respond to.

But, tell me... why are you tearing down my Feysal case? Uh oh.

[ToastyToast]

Meh, that wasn't the complete Feysal case. Also, since they're one-liners, I figure they'll be easy to respond to.

But, tell me... why are you tearing down my Feysal case? Uh oh.

One line saying "your case on Feysal isn't good" is hardly tearing it down. I'm not buying it and as such, you'll need more than that.

[inHimshallibe]

Meh, that wasn't the complete Feysal case. Also, since they're one-liners, I figure they'll be easy to respond to.

But, tell me... why are you tearing down my Feysal case? Uh oh.

One line saying "your case on Feysal isn't good" is hardly tearing it down. I'm not buying it and as such, you'll need more than that.

Name your pick of Villains, please.

[inHimshallibe]

Three days have passed without a post from me, and it is high time I remedied that. Again I see remarkably little has happened, though I am hardly in any position to criticize others for it. It is more fruitful to delve into the game anyway, so onwards.

Sir Feysal, is there a villain suspect you think is stronger than Twistedspoon, Esq. or Sir vezokpiraka? If so, then how does it come about?

At the time you asked this question, my answer would've been no. I had a townish read on Twistedspoon and more of a null on vezokpiraka, but I did not have a suspect I could've presented a case on.

After your inquiry however, I've seen the name of kr0b being mentioned by a fair few individuals. Therefore I took the liberty of examining him more closely, with the intent of solidifying my read on him. And indeed, I see the merit of this case now. I don't fully agree with the case as it was presented by imaginality, but I do see cause for concern.

I never thought that kr0b echoing Apokalyptika's words was very significant as such, but what he was saying then appears to conflict with his later actions. Apparently kr0b wondered why imaginality had singled out StrangerCoug, and with that background it does look peculiar how he singles out kpaca later on for supposedly posting fluff. I would say that kr0b's and kpaca's entries into the game are so similar as to invite comparison between them, but therein lies the problem. If indeed kr0b thought he and kpaca were similar in their manner of posting, what cause would he have to so focus on kpaca, in that post and later on? Particularly when kpaca had only just joined the proceedings, I find that kind of suspicion premature.

There is also the matter that kr0b spoke of fancy words being a convenient disguise for the villains amongst us. I rather liked this from him, since it mirrors my own thinking. In addition, I recognize a risk of misunderstandings arising from needlessly complicated language, which may have been the case with his use of the word perhaps. But looking at kr0b's early posts, I do see a definite lack of substance underneath a surface of pretty words.

Finally, his absence from the thread is long past looking conspicuous. His last post was nearly a week ago, and during that time he has posted in another game. Since this game has only grown by three pages since last Friday it should be possible for kr0b to keep up with ease, particularly when he appears to be able to do it in a more fast-paced game. Finally, according to his profile page, he last accessed the site today. These facts don't look like symptoms of flaking to me, more like avoiding this thread.

Given all this, I feel comfortable enough to

Vote: kr0b

I also see that we have received an extension of one week. I am sure that is very much needed.

After this, nothing more on kr0b, and has since kept ToastyToast as a neutral read here, here, and drops him a peg here. Strange how he can have a neutral read on the current player in the slot and still keep that player in his most suspicious tier. And then crunch time comes and he bumps Toast down a peg. Puh-lease.

Feysal has had 20 posts the ENTIRE game, and has voted TWICE.

Actually. Hmm. I've typed and erased "unvote vote: Feysal" about thirty times, give or take twenty-six. I will support lynching either of those two today. I am 95.7%

noise

sure Hoppster is the last Villain of those three, given what has transpired as far as the process of elimination is concerned.

[ToastyToast]

you, hoppster, and AV. I'm guessing your follow-up question will be: make a case on AV, which I will not do because I'm not confident on that third scum-read. He more or less just fits the kills and seems like a "scum-leader" type

Also, I'm pretty sure I was a neutral read for a lot of people yesterday because 1)I'm never obvtown and 2)my predecessor wasn't exactly a paragon of obvtown

[inHimshallibe]

Hoppster lynch, then?

[ToastyToast]

Hoppster lynch, then?

Is this you asking for a case?
Not really in the mood, but 1)His D1 play was still bad 2)He changed his gameplay drastically after D1 3)You buddy him way too much

[jilynne1991]

inHimshallibe, stop accusing everyone and please, focus on one person, you're starting to appear scummy, after all those days in believing in you.

[ToastyToast]

inHimshallibe, stop accusing everyone and please, focus on one person, you're starting to appear scummy, after all those days in believing in you.

Well, he WAS asked to give cases

[jilynne1991]

No, I understand that, but have you tried reading his posts in iso?

[ToastyToast]

No, I understand that, but have you tried reading his posts in iso?

Yeah, it was my first major reason for suspecting him

[AurorusVox]

TT; what changed from suspecting Feysal most to suspecting me the most?

TT-inOne-Feysal scumteam*
(TT+inOne crossbussing; inOne suspects Feysal, TT doesn't)

*potentially replace Feysal with Jily, not prepared to lynch him today anyway.

[ToastyToast]

Hm? I suspect you more based on wagon speculation

[imaginality]

Currently I feel most convinced about the inHimshallibe - ToastyToast scumpairing, and I'm flipping between Hoppster, Feysal and (less often) jilynne as the third person.

Pseudovote: inHimshallibe

[AurorusVox]

Actually, inHim's case on Feysal is quite compelling. The points he's picked out in Feysal's interactions with the kr0b slot are very non-committal. Is this InOne responding to me saying they're likely not scum together, providing more distance between the two, or is it indeed simply him having found a rapscallion? I'm not ready to tear away my scumread on the lewd gentleman just yet, but he has garnered a crumb of respect for his brief analysis.

imaginality's pseudovote pseudo-puts inOne at pseudo L-1.

[inHimshallibe]

No, I understand that, but have you tried reading his posts in iso?

Yeah, it was my first major reason for suspecting him

LOLRLY? I admit, my scumdar has not been finely tuned in the outset of this game, but I have obviously been honing in on the truth of this gathering as the game progresses.

My suspects thus far this game:

Caboose, though that seemed to be a roled tell instead of a Villain tell, which evaporated when Lord Hur joined the fray. Then Apokalyptika/Cookiebringer, where I parked most of the game. Then you notice my posts becoming clearer as the puzzle began to piece together. Toast and Feysal started rising to the top. I had Jilynne and Imaginality at the very top until the clearing party began, and then Toast and Feysal are at the top now. And then I'm guessing there's another Villain to count 3 total, and so I've began working it out between A. Vox, PhD and Sir Hoppster, to which I lean Sir Hoppster as the final cad.

I'm pushing Toasty and Feysal in particular because I feel I have the game solved and am trying to show you the whole team, because if you've noticed, we don't have ANY Villains revealed to us. It only makes sense to hunt them as a team, because we pretty much HAVE to be right from here on out.

[ToastyToast]

umm...look at my first catch-up post. reasons for callling you scum: wishy-washy. You approved of TS, then voted him.

[vezokpiraka]

I think we have to move on with the game. It's stagnating.

[inHimshallibe]

I think we have to move on with the game. It's stagnating.

For all that we've seen, this looks like MYLO. You know this?

[AurorusVox]

Going back to older posts...

AV or Feysal: Every scum team needs a leader, and leaders like to talk.

What do you make of Feysal only have 21 posts, then?

I just don't see AVox being scum.

Can you explain this townread?