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Elvis Knits
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I disagree. I have always played in this way, see this quote:
Vi guide wrote:
The best and quite possibly only reason you should argue with someone you think is scum is to get them to clarify something they said earlier
I always ask people questions, poke at them, and make sure that they are following up and are being genuine with their actions. As that quote has said, I always ask people to clarify themselves, and to talk. Simple as that.
My Silavor vote was RVS fueled. As you can see, I have seen him say that before, and it was funny to see HIM say that. The vote on Elli was serious, because I dislike self voters, and self hammerers. I generally do not like anything that is hurtful to town. I do see Elli getting good info from his gambits and such, so I am not worried about him at all.
Ok, for my FoS on Jil, she doesn’t need to VOTE so I can see scum motivation or not. He has been cussing, and I have been cussing back at him. I thought it was a bit tunnelly, but I misunderstood her motivation after the FoS. It was no stretch, it was a minor suspicion which would be ok for me to use an FoS. I am not trying to paint her as scum, and I am not even pushing for her. She has explained that it was because Fate has cussed AT HER, rather than just attacking Fate for cussing generally. From then on, I didn’t find anything scummy from her. The only thing I didn’t like was her response to Ze’s ‘lazyness’, which I pointed out seemed like her playing the middle man. Rather, I didn’t think it scummy OF her, but I thought it was a weird interaction, because I couldn’t tell if that was her being genuine or not. It would make me believe Ze and her are of different alignments if possible. I believe this because Ze actually listened to her without hesitation.
Now, you have not answered my question and I’d like for you to answer it please:
Question
: “Why exactly is Earworm town to you? So you found Silavor town for agreeing with you, not for pro-town motivation? How do you feel about Amrun buddying you so adamantly?”
I think your reason for voting me is pretty weak. I have never role fished. Again, my Silavor and Elli votes were early in RVS. You didn’t even get here until page 7, #156. You had more content to read and analyze, while I had little to base my reads on and had actually started discussion myself. If you self vote, I will yell at you. If you self hammer, I will yell at you endgame and lose respect for you (if you were town).
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Earworm
: Yet you couldn’t produce your own after sheeping for a bit?
Yes, I am saying you didn’t consider it. If you were town, you would try to consider it because of course you’d want to preserve possible townies. Here, you didn’t seem to care, even if Ze’s point wasn’t clear. It doesn’t absolve you from thinking through.
That is a bit IIoA. You say I am scum because of ‘the latest exchange’ cemented in your mind somehow. You never explained what motive I had in that exchange, that was scummy. Basically you were ‘wasting space’ by saying that I was scummy with a non-existent motive. (Because you never explained it)
You weren’t sheeping Fate?
earworm wrote:cool. I'll take the trade,
one townie
that was posting about EVERYTHING for a near confirmed slot.
IGMEOY: ZeL1nk
p-edit: Elli thought you were scum FA. If you can't see that, then you're being ridiculous.
See here. You seemed to be okay with that trade. So obviously you weren’t thinking I was scum, but then:
You seemed to agree with Fate. So this seemed to be minor sheeping. Do you agree?
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Atil
: Ah I see, sorry, thank you for clarifying. I can see that your reads are the closest to mine. I just disagree with Elvis. I feel she is null leaning scum, because she seems to avoid the Earworm question that I have asked, and has been pressuring her town read without explaining why he was leaning town earlier. Jil is a bit null to me. Cirno isn’t really contributing much and I don’t like that. Everything else is A-OK.
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Tajo
: Sup bro. I disagree with your Elvis read. I may be biased as she is voting me, but I feel that she has pushed for her town read and hasn’t really explained why Earworm was leaning townie to her. (Although she seems to have explained her Silavor read a little later) Case on Earworm is above. Basically, he has said he has been trying to help town by providing content to help us read him, yet he has mostly sheeped others. Sheeping doesn't actually help anyone get reads, since he can just appeal to authority (the person he sheeped)
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Amrun
: Also Elli should answer my questions too.
Not a misrep. I was talking about one of your posts, and it was only three lines of re-hashed content. The last part seemed to be my pov of why you connected Earworm to me. Ah, you may have a point there. I was going to say it would be null since town would do it too, but yeah don't know why he was pushing on Silavor's point. Don't find Silavor scummy for that though, and I don't like Elvis's push on her town read. I remember you saying this before. I guess it's a strong belief for you, eh?
Cute, cute. It's OMGUS when I was voting for him before he ever voted me? Besides, one instance OMGUS by itself is not a scumtell,
even though I accused Zel of doing it
(which he did, in my opinion).
So you mean to say you didn't really think Zel's OMGUS was a scumtell? Fair enough, I can tell that sometimes playstyles really mesh and somehow you get town tells confused with really liking their playstyle. Here though it seems like you are buddying and not really sharing ideas or conversing with Elvis much, amirite? Ok, so she thinks the same way you do. Don't you think that makes it THAT much more important to keep an eye on her, so that you aren't completely biased on your read on her?
Amrun wrote:Snarky: I think it's an obvious joke. Stop fishing.
DK: Earworm could have been coaching FA not to flip out.
Peregrine: Was your last post a joke? Seriously?
This was what I was talking about [crap content]. Your last point is new and I like it only because you also are asking him about 'not posting = scumtell'.
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Jil
: Why is your vote still on Elli from RVS? What are your thoughts on Earworm, DK, Amrun, Elvis, and Silavor? (Also please state if they seem scummy or townie to you)
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CKD
: Ah, thank you. My other head wanted to make sure that you were backing up your read and she didn't know how you attained it. I on the other hand, have played with Fate before. I do notice that he does usually attacks player's skill level alot and it doesn't really help the game or the player. In fact I think Fate has attacked a player for using a gambit.
Ok, I think he may have been right about what that dude did, but Fate always tries to spin this off on anyone (In underlined):
Fate wrote:There ARE votes across the board on you. But hey were ALL opportunisric scum right?
Seriously.
The fact you're talking to me like you know I'm TOWN
while calling me scum out the other side of your mouth makes this laughable.
I trust that this playerlist will hammer without a claim because of how scummy DH is.
Course, I thought DH was scum too, but he was actually town. So, I believe this to be a bad tell for Fate to use, and it is annoying. And as you can see, THIS [in the bold] is what I was talking about when I referred to Fate's "STUPID SHIT" that I hate. I have addressed it in my replace in post but he NEVER responded, and instead just called me town without much reason. So Fate is null to me. The only good thing he does do, is pressure people. That I am ok with. But not with attacking playstyles, skill etc.
