A Gentleman's Game of Guile, Subterfuge, and Intrigue (Fin)

[ToastyToast]

couldn't all three scum be on my wagon? that was my other theory...

[imaginality]

Not possible, since inHim hasn't been counterclaimed, and I could only be scum if jilynne is also scum.

[jilynne1991]

...I would over to get myself lynched to have a proven townie, but then I realized...it doesn't work like that since we're in LYLO. ToastyToast...I think that's impossible, and right now, I'm believing that inHim, imaginiality, and myself are confirmed townies. I think either AV or Feysal or vezo is also townie, so the person I'm most sure about that's scum is TT.

[jilynne1991]

What the heck? My brain is not working right, and this is as frustrating as he--. Oh right...nevermind. I'm so used to games having an odd number of players, my brain spazzed over the fact that I felt like there should be only 7 players, but there somehow was 8.

Sorry, I somehow forgot about Hoppster, all this time. I feel like he is town, because he's saying I'm town. This logic seems wrong, but so many people think I'm scum, so that if he was scum, it would be easier for him to just blend in and say I'm scum, if he was scum. (Sorry, I guess my logic is a little backward.) Also, he never did anything that scummy enough to remember.

[imaginality]

Time for AV or jilynne to hammer, I think. We're not going to get anything more out of today.

[jilynne1991]

I'm bored. I'm ready to hammer. I'd like another 10 minutes to just rethink this one more time, since we don't have time to be careless anymore.

[jilynne1991]

Ok, I'm hammering.

VOTE: ToastyToast

Gawd, I have a sick feeling in my stomach.

[imaginality]

jilynne, you might want to bold your vote to make sure it's counted.

[jilynne1991]

oops! I copy and pasted this from another thread, since I accidently posted it there. I thought it was automatically the way, i first did it.

vote: ToastyToast

[Feysal]

Well, you are getting at least one more post from me today.

Willing to hammer, effective immediately, but holding off for a few hours in the hope that Feysal posts something.

I took another look at Jilynne, this time in her other games. I got curious about her saying she was in many games with two mafia, so I looked them up. Turns out she is in some open games with two-man mafia teams, but the real eye-opener is looking at her play in those games. Only one of her games is completed, but even based on that it is clear that I was wrong to clear her based on her activity. She is a veritable waterfall of words.

As for whether she could be mafia, looking at the rest of the players, that looks likely. Removing myself, inHimshallibe, vezokpiraka, imaginality and Jilynne, I'm left with only ToastyToast, Hoppster and AV as potential mafia. That team does not sound particularly credible, especially AV being involved. I've recently taken a close look at his play in several games, needing the meta in another ongoing game, and it also serves me here. The way he has played does not resemble his anti-town meta much at all. I believe AV is town, so clearly there is something amiss. Jilynne is the odd one out, with inHim confirmed non-mafia, vezok investigated by a flavor cop, and imaginality only being able to be mafia if Jilynne is.

I see that Jilynne finally hammered. But, especially given how long it took, that really does not rule out bussing. We shall see.

[AurorusVox]

Jily + Toasty + <mystery third member> sounds pretty likely imo.
I REALLY hope we've nailed the Godfather or Roleblocker, which will allow inHim another shot.

[ToastyToast]

love how absolutely no one thinks I'm town. lol. well, I am. I wasn't faking, i really thought i was hammered. I also thought vezok was really scummy for it. He's used his "confirmed" status to his advantage, yet lord_hur never outright said "HETOWNGUSY"

[AurorusVox]

>_> maybe if there'd been some movement on Jily we could have lynched her instead. Is this all WIFOM from Toasty, though?

[vezokpiraka]

love how absolutely no one thinks I'm town. lol. well, I am. I wasn't faking, i really thought i was hammered. I also thought vezok was really scummy for it. He's used his "confirmed" status to his advantage, yet lord_hur never outright said "HETOWNGUSY"

I know I am town, someone else said I'm probable town. We are probably in LyLo with three scums. Did you have a strong scum read on me and felt that even cop investigations couldn't force you to change it?


Also Jyl gave me an idea. Could there be two scums? I know I've been in games with a vig and only two scums.

[AurorusVox]

Ehh...possibly. I think it'd be more likely with inHim SK than town vig, though. Actually, since he can shoot every night, two scum might be the right bet (pulling things out of nowhere atm but thinking about it from that angle, one-shot OR even/odd night vig + three scum is more likely based on the number of kills per night and balancing against that, than a full vig would be...) - which would trash most of the scumteam theories I've been bandying around. Hmm. Not sure how to place a full SK in this situation.

ALSO, if scum have RB + GF + Goon like I said earlier, setup WIFOM makes me think its balanced in their favour. Just RB + GF though could be workable, though...and if Jily is scum it's also possible she slipped that there's two scum members rather than three. OTOH Feysal has said her games have had two scumzz in them so its tough to read much into it.

[vezokpiraka]

Ehh...possibly. I think it'd be more likely with inHim SK than town vig, though. Actually, since he can shoot every night, two scum might be the right bet (pulling things out of nowhere atm but thinking about it from that angle, one-shot OR even/odd night vig + three scum is more likely based on the number of kills per night and balancing against that, than a full vig would be...) - which would trash most of the scumteam theories I've been bandying around. Hmm. Not sure how to place a full SK in this situation.

ALSO, if scum have RB + GF + Goon like I said earlier, setup WIFOM makes me think its balanced in their favour. Just RB + GF though could be workable, though...and if Jily is scum it's also possible she slipped that there's two scum members rather than three. OTOH Feysal has said her games have had two scumzz in them so its tough to read much into it.

Fey covering up for jyl?

Interesting. That's why they didn't hammer. They are only two.

@Inhim: Shoot feysal tonight. If you get blocked both fey and jyl are scum

[AurorusVox]

Hmm. Is Jil not a better shot than Feysal? Or are you saying that you're confident that Jil is scum already, and the shot will help us determine whether Feysal is her partner?

[Wraith]

Votecount 3.5

ToastyToast

(5)

:

inHimshallibe, vezokpiraka, imaginality, AurorusVox, PhD, jilynne1991

imaginality

(0)

:

vezokpiraka

,

AurorusVox, PhD.

inHimshallibe

(0)

:

ToastyToast

,

vezokpiraka

Not Voting

(3)

:

Sir Hoppster, Feysal, ToastyToast

With 8 alive it shall take

5

to lynch the knave.

Hmmm? Excuse me? Sincerest apologies, honored guests, it appears that I dozed off during your lengthy deliberations. You believe the esteemed gentleman

ToastyToast

bears himself in some manner of guilt? Ah, then we shall see. Mister Williams, please fetch my comically oversized antiquated firearm, would you please. Ah, thank you. Now, this weapon is ceremonial in purpose and takes considerable amount of preparation for its proper and safe use. Please wait.

Ah, there we go - powder is primed and preparations complete - and now we finish off my good knave ToastyToast. There we go, that business is adjourned. Mister Williams, please search the body. Nothing incriminating, you say? Oh dear...

ToastyToast

,

Most Proper But Unspectacular Man of Class

,

was lynched Day 3.

It appears

Night 3

has commensed. Please forward apprpriate actions by

July 2, 2011

[Wraith]

Day Four

It is now morning, my still-surviving comrades! I should hope, with such an unbroken and unfortunate pattern of mistakes and misunderstandings, that this new day shall bring new resolve to sustain those with unscathed reputation to victory. Let me attain a proper count of our remaining guests...it appears one of our number is missing. Oh, dear...

What's this? My staff informs me that they have found the body of

inHimshallibe

, killed during the night. It is with great sorrow that I-

What?

What

did you say? I say, the good fellow here informs me that they found quite an extensive collection of both simple and ornate weapons of a concealable, bladed nature on inHim's person. Dare I say, but I believe we have rid ourselves of the most nasty sort of rogue.

inHimshallibe

,

Infiltrator and Rapscallion Forgoing Predetermined Conduct and Mannerisms in the Practice of Duels

,

Murdered Most Foully Night 3

Take heart, my good men, for due to infighting amongst the rapscallions among us we are ever closer to attaining victory this day. Constant vigilance!

With 6 alive it takes

4

to lynch the knave.

Deadline for this day is

July 16, 2011

. No extensions of any kind can be given due to activities of a personal nature soon to follow that date.

[vezokpiraka]

Yep.

We are in MyLo , with a dead SK and the scum have a RBer. I say we no lynch.

[AurorusVox]

Submitting that we will wait and see does work. At this point, if there are three rapscallions, they can simply vote for a "laissez faire" approach every day anyway, thus our only hope is that it is indeed a two-man (or woman) team, and approach them with more favourable odds tomorrow (3:2 rather than 4:2).

I DO think tomorrow there will be a similar choice to make as today so we COULD go for it today, and treat Messrs. Imaginality & Vezok as confirmed gentlemen (one of those will probably just perish tonight irregardless), leaving a 2:2 ratio (same as tomorrow) but with the added confirmed gentleman's voice.

That is, of course, barring hijinks of the most foul nature from either of the aforementioned guests.

If I were to indicate potential two-man teams, Jily slips somewhat out of the Confirmed-Scum category, but she is still the most likely in my humble opinion. Jily does not preclude Imaginality shenanigans, she makes a good pairing with Feysal, and more importantly, she slipped about a two man team earlier in the game. I still strongly read Hoppster as town. The potential blind-side is Vezok, who, as has been made clear, could be of godfatherly nature, and thus evade lord_hur's investigation; it could be a Feysal-Vezok scumteam which would make my attacks on Jily most misguided.

I will trust in my heart here, though. Yesterday I had my doubts that Toasty was a rapscallion, preferring to witness Jily's true colours, only to doubt myself in the face of the conviction of my fellow guests. I admit, I feared that Toasty had played me for a fool, and that I was overthinking such a simple and obvious choice. Drat! Balderdash! Hogwash!

I submit the motion that we take an unofficial poll. Those who wish to allow fate to take its course, indicate as much by saying "aye". Those who wish to grab the reigns of the game for themselves, say "nay"

I myself am a Nay-sayer. I believe with two potential confirmed-town, a laissez faire approach will ultimately do us no good.

[vezokpiraka]

If we are lynching one of jilly or Feysal I think I can go behind it.

Also something is still wrong. Yesterday TT was at L-1 for a long time. Both the scums must've been on his wagon because I think any scum would've hammered just because the day was dragging.

[vezokpiraka]

imaginality, AurorusVox, PhD, jilynne1991

One of this three is scum.

TheLonging, Sir Hoppster, imaginality

One of this three is scum

ToastyToast, vezokpiraka, jilynne1991

One is scum.

Reya wagon was a little weird and I don;t know what to make of it.
inHimshallibe,, imaginality, jilynne1991

At least one is scum. Could be a lot more.

imaginality, AurorusVox, PhD, jilynne1991

At least one is scum.


That narrows it down to jyl and imginality.
Or AV and jyl.

Anyway Jyl must day.

I'm not seeing feysal - jyl scum team though.

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote jyl

[imaginality]

Jilynne's two-scum remark, as AurorusVox has remarked, now looks like a blatant slip on the part of a villain. I can confirm I will in all likelihood be casting my ballot for jilynne. I see no reason to refrain from dispatching her today when the evidence is rather clear, so I also vote Nay to AurorusVox's vox pop.

However, before I cast my ballot, I want to conduct and provide a bit of D1/D2 analysis based on the assumption jilynne flips scum. This is so that if the villains kill me tonight, I can already have made some contribution to tomorrow's discussion. I expect to conclude this business within the next day, and will then cast my vote, unless the situation changes dramatically from how it is at present.

@jilynne1991, you say you are in many games with two scum. Can you provide links to some completed games of that nature?