Into Africa - Over

[Cirno]

I still don't think ckd is town (based on his claim) and I don't care to wait until everyone weighs in.

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

[Flavour Analysis]

Llamafluff = +1 awesomeness for using Calvin and Hobbes

In other news I think we should still lynch CKD.

Unless we've got some PR results of course

. So I'll wait til everybody's posted before revoting CKD

Vote: Seacore

Why are you trying to out pr's? Pushing the easy lynch?

SCUM PICKS NOW.

[vezokpiraka]

Gosh. Scum are smart.

Let's see who we can lynch from smart players pool.

vote ckd

[Fate]

WHAT THE FUCK DID I EVER DO TO YOU PEOPLE

[DeityKabuto]

Noo, not Fate!

It's because Fate was right about him being scum, wasn't it?

[Flavour Analysis]

I don't know. It's wifom.

DK, just follow me or any of my town reads, k? Can you do that for us?

[Snarky]

ckdsk makes sense, but christ Seacore is scum. WHY DO YOU WAIT BEFORE VOTING CKD!?!?!?!

vote:Seacore

[evilpacman18]

Hm.

[evilpacman18]

I still don't think ckd is town (based on his claim) and I don't care to wait until everyone weighs in.

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

scum slip?

[ZeL1nK]

VOTE: GreyIce

[ZeL1nK]

I don't think ckd is scum, at best SK, but I'm not entirely sure. Hyena flavour could be predator, but there's been a lion flip, so day vig kind of makes sense. Don't hyenas steal prey from lions?

I don't really see the point in killing him now, anyway. He's a restricted day vig, we know about his role. Even if he's third party or scum, what's the worst he can do? If he day vigs someone we don't want him to day vig, he's as good as dead, anyway.

What I do want is ckd's full role claim (well, specifically the restrictions on his role that he hinted at yesterday). As far as I can tell, it has something to do with post quantity?

Anyway, GI is scum. I took no notice of him D1 because he was playing like I've seen GI normally play, but the vote on Hez D2 was just bad (derp fate is bussing derp), and looking back on his play, it's been really unimpressive.

[DeityKabuto]

I don't know. It's wifom.

DK, just follow me or any of my town reads, k? Can you do that for us?

Yes

Vote: Seacore

[GreyICE]

Vote: Vezok

Dear christ you're still not town.

[ZeL1nK]

btw, this wagon here:

{Llamarble (3) - elvis_knits, Lowell, snarky}

Had scum on it. Fo sho.

I'd say Snarky is the most likely of the three. Snarky just continues to be unimpressive in every way.

Lowell's lurking as hard as he can get away with, and he would be a good shot for ckd, depending on what the post restrictions he has actually are. Although I'd like to talk through this one after I hear what ckd's restrictions are.

GreyIce still a good lynch today. So very, very, very underwhelmed by his D2 play and he looks like the most likely bus on the Hez wagon.

[vezokpiraka]

Vote: Vezok

Dear christ you're still not town.

If you were town you wouldn't have pushed a lynch on me. I know you read me perfectly.

unvote
vote GI[/b[

You are the one that killed Fate aren't you?

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote GI

[ZeL1nK]

Actually, looking back, I don't want ckd to full claim.

This was enough

should read I may ONLY kill lurkers....though I will not provide the length of time they have to lurk before I can scavenge them.

And confirms my flavour suspicions. The fact he used "scavenge" makes me think that he is a day vig who scavenges from lions, and this fits the lion flip flavour.

At the very least, he's a terrible lynch today.

[ZeL1nK]

Also, I know I'm gaming the flavour a lot here, but this:

A old threat has emerged a new, and it will take many different creatures working as a collective to defeat it.

Makes me think it's a single scum faction (lions) and no SK.

[evilpacman18]

vote: Cirno

Pretty sure that was a Freudian slip.

[ZeL1nK]

What slip?

[Cirno]

>Why are you trying to out pr's? Pushing the easy lynch?
This is stupid. Saying "I'm going to lynch this person unless a power role says otherwise" is not role fishing.

>scum slip?
>Pretty sure that was a Freudian slip.
Sure.

>Don't hyenas steal prey from lions?
How does that make hyena a town role? Zebras and Antelopes eat grass. Hyenas eat zebra and antelope. They are not buddies.
>I don't really see the point in killing him now, anyway. [...] Even if he's third party or scum.
"I don't really see the point in killing a person that might be scum or third party and can kill."

Zelink is scum, guys.

In other news,
>vezok continuing to vote hop
>DietyKabuto continuing to follow people without question

My money is on a scum win this game.

[evilpacman18]

Never mind, I was reading that post wrong.

unvote

I didn't see the "don't"

[ZeL1nK]

How does that make hyena a town role? Zebras and Antelopes eat grass. Hyenas eat zebra and antelope. They are not buddies.

You act like I said Hyena is a town role, when I didn't. I said it makes sense, based on game flavour.

In any case, what do I, as scum, have to gain from calling ckd town? Unless you think I'm scum with him or something? In which case, you'd still need to explain why I'd be so blatant about it and you'd also have to explain why ckd counter-claimed Hez like that yesterday.

Just getting this straight: You don't think there's any way a Hyena could be town-aligned (even with the lion flip)? And you think the day vigs were done by ckd-scum?

"I don't really see the point in killing a person that might be scum or third party and can kill."

So you read all my posts, and that's your interpretation of what I was saying? Really?

[elvis_knits]

First of all, why did all the fun stuff have to happen when I was offline? That end of day was action packed. I think there's tons to analyze.

1)CKD - Vig or SK? We've seen daykills, so if he's not the vig, the real vig will vig him, correct? That's how I've always played. Unless we think there is no vig, and the daykills are the SK, and is CKD. In essence though, we can control/restrict his kills from now on though, so he's not dangerous. If he's SK we have to get rid of him before endgame, obv, but we have some time to sort that out. I would rather go after Hez buddies than lynch CKD who is maybe vig, maybe SK who can't shoot without our permission.

2)Hez did his best not to connect himself to anyone, I see a slight support of Seacore in #308. I think most of his stuff about FA does not look like he's bussing his buddy, which makes me have to conclude that FA is probably not scum even though he drives me bananas.

3) My new list

TOWN

Amrun (still gut)
vezokpiraka (claim)
tajo (turned wagon from ckd to Hez... not Hez buddy)
Flavour Analysis (Hez's treatment did not seem like a buss)
evilpacman18 (claim)
ZeL1nk (gut mostly)
Altilysian (gut again)
Grey (he switched from ckd to hez at a crucial time. Tajo started it, but Grey got it going)

NEUTRAL

Lowell
DietyKabuto
Cirno
curiouskarmadog
Llamarble - at best, he is useless, didn't even vote yesterday; since he was the rival wagon to Hez less chance he's scum too
snarky

SCUM

inHimshallibe/calcifer - inhim did nothing, and calcifer came in and voted hez when hez was already hammered - no town points for that.
Seacore - totally tried to lynch CKD over Hez yesterday, while saying nothing abotu Hez
earworm - tried to save Hez's bacon during the late day action

I'm most sure on Seacore because Seacore never mentioned Hez. EVER. Which is really really fucking strange. I mean, he was clearly a lynch candidate, so a townie would say SOMETHING about him, even if they were wrong. So while earworm supported Hez, and that's scummy, it's like even fucking scummier to say nothing about Hez and vote CKD.

Vote Seacore

[Cirno]

>You act like I said Hyena is a town role, when I didn't. I said it makes sense, based on game flavour.

Your post led me to believe that you were arguing that hyena was most likely to be a town-aligned day vig. Is that not what you were saying?

>In any case, what do I, as scum, have to gain from calling ckd town? Unless you think I'm scum with him or something? In which case, you'd still need to explain why I'd be so blatant about it and you'd also have to explain why ckd counter-claimed Hez like that yesterday.

Nah, I don't care about explaining all that. I think arguing that hyena is town-aligned is scummy. Therefore, I think that you are scummy.

>Just getting this straight: You don't think there's any way a Hyena could be town-aligned (even with the lion flip)? And you think the day vigs were done by ckd-scum?

No. Hyena are carnivores. We have yet to see a town flip that wasn't a herbivore. Hyena are known to eat even lions and vice versa, so I do not believe they are aligned. But neither are town aligned.