Nintendo Mafia (Game Over)

[thil13]

hm, fine. I'll vote weirdalex, it's the likely choice since we have the deadline soon.

VOTE: weirdalexv

[Looker]

Wish we had that Sensor role tonight. I'm pretty sure there's scum on wierdalex's wagon.

[jmj3000]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

thil13

- 3 - esuriospiritus, weirdalexv, Kdub - (L-3)

weirdalexv

- 5 - The Master Hand, lewarcher82, Pinky and the Brain, Bunnylover, thil13 - (L-1)

Players not voting: GhostWriter, Looker

Deadline is June 27th at 12:30 AM EDT.

(expired on 2011-06-27 00:30:00)

[Kdub]

Wish we had that Sensor role tonight. I'm pretty sure there's scum on wierdalex's wagon.

This is almost certain. Unless by some fluke alex is actually mafia, it's crazy to me that we have a 1v1 and the lynch with the most support is someone else.

If alex flips town, I highly suggest that the SK kill thil. The SK could be in a very bad spot if they do not kill scum tonight.

[lewarcher82]

Wish we had that Sensor role tonight. I'm pretty sure there's scum on wierdalex's wagon.

This is almost certain. Unless by some fluke alex is actually mafia, it's crazy to me that we have a 1v1 and the lynch with the most support is someone else.

If alex flips town, I highly suggest that the SK kill thil. The SK could be in a very bad spot if they do not kill scum tonight.

this is prolly something a sk would do, fyour analysis is correct. Except, it is unlikely to happen, because I am still convinced that weirdalexv will flip scum, prolly sk.

assuming, of course, that sk cannot joint with scum, in which case he may prefer: 6 vs 3 vs 1 --> 5 vs 3 vs 1 --> 3 vs 3 vs 1 to 6 vs 3 vs 1 --> 5 vs 3 vs 1 --> 4 vs 2 vs 1

I will have to think about the meaning of your post... would work both ways: if you are town and think thil is scum, but also if you are scum and thil is town...

lew's official statement: we are 3 days from deadline, and a wagon on someone who ain't thil or weirdalexv is impossible to make. I believe thil's claim and I think patb is town (call me a fool if you want), while weirdalexv and his predecessor are sk-ish scummy, they played it safe beyond the limits of scumminess and weird's role claim is bullshit, while his name is the closest thing to a sk flavour I can imagine when thinking to what I know about the Nintendo world.

I support lynching him. In fact, I fully support a hammer, but I understand that he is on LA and he should be granted the chance of posting one last time.

[Looker]

Sorry, lewarcher, but seeing as he said "Limited Access for the next week", I'm going to go ahead and VOTE: weirdalexv

[wierdalexv]

*sighs*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Why didn't you wait for my bandwagon analysis? That would have helped YOU GUYS as much as it would help ME.

I could have really helped you guys win this, you know that?
Yes, I am SK, but at L-1 I was planning to claim Bulletproof Serial Killer and kill who the town wanted me to kill and go for the solo victory in a 1-1-1. However, the smart town would have killed me off the day before a 1-1-1, which would be the more likely situation; it was worth a shot, though.

It is so annoying as scum to watch somebody guess literally almost every aspect of your role; lewarcher was 100% correct on me being Dark Samus, a 1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer. The only part you missed is my Investigation-Immunity.

I STILL CAN'T SEE HOW THE TOWN CAN LYNCH OUTSIDE OF A 1V1! YOU CAUGHT SCUM, WHY RISK THE ENTIRE GAME ON AN SK LYNCH???

Mafia is riding my wagon HARD, I can say that for sure. 4 Scum on my wagon, maybe?
Looker, you are scum, at least to me (and probably in the mafia too).

The really annoying thing is, what I'm getting lynched for,

^I PMed the mod, Kdub asked me to:

Alex: can you ask the mod what night you lost your one-shot BP?

OK, I'll do that right now.

Anyway, working on the BWA.

@Mod: is it considered impersonating you if I use green to indicate town players in my Bandwagon Analysis?

wait a sec, Pinky has a point here! You already knew you were zero-suit before "asking the mod" but you didn't know when you lost your suit???? How is that possible?

is entirely true.

Serial Killer = worse role than Vanilla Townie.

I'm out.

[jmj3000]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

thil13

- 3 - esuriospiritus, weirdalexv, Kdub - (L-3)

weirdalexv

- 6 - The Master Hand, lewarcher82, Pinky and the Brain, Bunnylover, thil13, Looker - (L-0)

Players not voting: GhostWriter

Flavor to come when I have time.

weirdalexv, Dark Samus, One-shot BUlletproof Serial Killer,

was Lynched Day 5.

It is now Night 5. Deadline is June 28th, 2011, at 11:00 AM EDT. Any nigh actions sent after then will not count. Send them to both me and Reckamonic.

(expired on 2011-06-28 11:00:00)

[jmj3000]

Just got off work, so give me a few minutes to process night actions then I will open the thread.

[jmj3000]

Flavor to come later

thil13, Merlon, Cop

, has been found slashed to death Night 5.

GhostWriter, Luigi, Tracker

, was found incinerated with energy burns all around their body Night 5.

It is now Day 6. Deadline is in 2 weeks, since the activity picked up during the last day phase. Day 6 ends on July 12th at 5:30 PM EDT.

(expired on 2011-07-12 17:30:00)

[The Master Hand]

oh look, we were right.
looker or esurio is the lynch for today. A lynch of either one will confirm patb's ability or make him auto-scum.
-Toast

[Hoppster]

Well, obviously I was wrong about scum not having two roleblocking roles.


VOTE: Looker

Looker and esurio are scum.

Lynch on either one plzkthxbai.

[esuriospiritus]

thil13, Merlon, Cop, has been found slashed to death Night 5.

Whoops.

And nope, I'm not scum.

I'm

Meta Knight

, and I'm a

two-kill vig who retains those kill-shots if I kill correctly.

. I slashed chkflip to death with my sexy sword and sadly, thil. I was waiting for my kills to run out before I claimed.

Full action list:
Attempted to kill Tragedy N1. Was not successful due to Dekes' mass roleblock but at the time assumed I had played

too

obvtown and got targeted by a scum roleblocker and went into a lurker mode I've yet to really redeem myself from. I retained both shots at this point.

Attempted to kill Espeonage N2. Failed, but lost a shot even though he was scum. This didn't make sense to me until I shot chkflip and he flipped mafia doc. XD Had one shot at this point.

Successfully vigged chkflip N3. Retained my single shot since I correctly shot scum.

Chose not to shoot N4. I wasn't sure enough about who was scum to risk it, especially after realizing there was someone else with a killing role out there. Retained my single shot.

Shot Thil N5. Was really disappointed no one was on the 1v1 yesterday and assumed Thil was the scum because I didn't think scum would be ballsy enough to fakeclaim Sensor. Lost my last shot.

---

I never name crumbed outright -- blatant isn't my style lately. But my role was crumbed very subtly by me making my kill coloured purple in my NK analysis thingie earlier, purple or blue being the usual colour of Meta Knight's cape.

And then there's this thing which was entirely supposed to look like I was just being random and silly but is really a crumb with some other stuff thrown in to throw off any crumb-hunters. It's littered with stuff I pulled from the wiki and 'randomified':

on the other hand xtoxm is doing this whole "let me call someone who voted me town in an attempt to get on their good side" thing, which I happen to think is a glorious scumtell under certain

vague and mysterious conditions

. I'd have to do some

space-time warping voodoo magic

under the light of the full moon and stars

, involving a sacrificial

blade

and ludicrous amounts of

pink

glitter. also, an

antique vaccuum cleaner

, five dozen stuffed animals, and a live kangaroo

isoing to make that call for sure, though.

Meta Knight's Dimensional Cape cape allows him to manipulate space, and is a powerful weapon in its own right.

The sword

Galaxia

is a solid gold blade with a ruby embedded in its hilt, with anywhere between zero to eight spikes protruding from its sharp edges. In earlier games, the spikes were absent from Meta Knight's then-unnamed sword.

and the pink bolded is supposed to be a reference to Kirby, obvs (the "ancient" recognizing that he is one of the older popular Nintendo characters, having existed in some form or fashion since 1992.)

So, I'm town.

Kill PatB.

VOTE: PatB

Also, I think TMH might be scum with PatB simply because he COMPLETELY IGNORED the fact that PatB counterclaimed Thil being roleblocked and that whole 1v1 thing going on yesterday in favour of "oh i guess i was right lol derp". That or he isn't fucking using his brain.

[Kdub]

Well, that throws a wrench into things. thil and GW were my top two suspects.

Anyone up for massclaim?

looker or esurio is the lynch for today. A lynch of either one will confirm patb's ability or make him auto-scum.

Why don't we just lynch PatB and find out directly? If he flips town, then we know exactly who the scum are.

[Kdub]

Thought about it a bit more, PatB is definitely the lynch:

- Claimed roleblocked on the same night as thil, thil flipped town.
- If he is telling the truth, then that means esurio is confirmed scum. But esurio just claimed vig who shot chkflip and thil, both of whom make a ton of sense as vig targets. If nobody counterclaims esurio, then she is confirmed town and PatB is lying.
- Balance-wise, town has a confirmed doc, JoaT, tracker, cop, and mostly-confirmed vig, plus possible other roles that haven't claimed yet. A sensor on top of all of that is overkill.

Going to wait for a few more people to check in first, but PatB is confirmed scum in my view.

[The Master Hand]

esurio, dont lie. esurio and looker are the only people left on the tragedy wagon (other than patB himself).That means lynching on the wagon will prove/disprove patB's claim.

Either strategy, town has this, but, quite frankly, I never was a fan of the 1v1 thing because we had town reads on both patb and thil. That hasn't changed.

In other words, yeah, sure we can kill PatB directly, but don't forget that he helped us find the SK with his "there are three scum on this wagon" thing. Both the NK's were people on that wagon. Someone is trying to screw Patb over.

[Bunnylover]

PATB should be our lynch today.
It doesn't matter if he helped us, we still have his information and we can use it if he flips town (which he probably won't).

[Kdub]

I would like to hear Looker's thoughts before I say anything else.

[lewarcher82]

esurio, dont lie. esurio and looker are the only people left on the tragedy wagon (other than patB himself).That means lynching on the wagon will prove/disprove patB's claim.

Either strategy, town has this, but, quite frankly, I never was a fan of the 1v1 thing because we had town reads on both patb and thil. That hasn't changed.

In other words, yeah, sure we can kill PatB directly, but don't forget that he helped us find the SK with his "there are three scum on this wagon" thing. Both the NK's were people on that wagon. Someone is trying to screw Patb over.

No, TMH, in case you miss such a simple implication

, I will make it clear for you.

Esurio's claim makes PatB automatically scum.

If PatB=sensor, then esurio, looker= scum, scum. But if esurio=scum, who vigged chk and thil?

It is a contraddiction, and it changes things entirely. I also used to defend my townread of PatB, but this is more than a case. It is a direct implication.

So, unless you, or someone else who has not claimed yet, are going to claim the vig-kills, my vote will move to PatB.

as easy as this.

[The Master Hand]

very well. I still have major reservations as to why meta knight would be on the same team as kirby, and how it was oh-so-conveniently a two shot. I'll trust you on this.

[lewarcher82]

TMH: man after esurio's claim opposing patb's lynch is ridiculous. If esurio aint no vig, who is? I take it you are not, right? Who's missing? kdub? looker?

this is not about the 1 vs 1 or other half-compelling cases that could be explained easily with a scum joat or stuff like that. This is a table of truth. Extremely easy, as far as I see.

@PatB: is it possible that you are sensor and esurio AND looker are not both scum? Answer!

[Looker]

• First of all, let me apologize in lieu of wierdalexv's last post two hours after my hammer.
  
• Secondly, who is Hoppster? And why would scum have two roleblockers?
  
• I favor esuriospiritus's point regarding the 1v1 over The Master Hand's proposed method of confirming PatB's role seeing as there's two of us and one of him. Have to look back at the Tragedy wagon and PatB's assertion but PatB's lynch would confirm two roles as opposed to lynching either of us and confirming one.
  
• RE:The Master Hand's defense of PatB:
  • I like how you told esurio "don't lie" as if that would do anything.
  • I don't like the speedy assumption that someone's trying to screw PatB over when we have no evidence to support that.
  
  
• Either way, I have a shitload of reading to do before I place a vote.

[Looker]

Original Roll String: 1d5

1 5-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Dice work.

[lewarcher82]

• First of all, let me apologize in lieu of wierdalexv's last post two hours after my hammer.
  
• Secondly, who is Hoppster? And why would scum have two roleblockers?
  
• I favor esuriospiritus's point regarding the 1v1 over The Master Hand's proposed method of confirming PatB's role seeing as there's two of us and one of him. Have to look back at the Tragedy wagon and PatB's assertion but PatB's lynch would confirm two roles as opposed to lynching either of us and confirming one.
  
• RE:The Master Hand's defense of PatB:
  • I like how you told esurio "don't lie" as if that would do anything.
  • I don't like the speedy assumption that someone's trying to screw PatB over when we have no evidence to support that.
  
  
• Either way, I have a shitload of reading to do before I place a vote.

I asked you a very precise question: are you cc'ing esurio's vig claim? You should be able to answer now. If no one is ccing, PatB is scum.

[Kdub]

I asked you a very precise question: are you cc'ing esurio's vig claim? You should be able to answer now. If no one is ccing, PatB is scum.

This is exactly what I was getting at when I wanted Looker to post before I said anything else. The only unclaimed players I believe are me, Looker, and TMH. It's obvious from our posts after esurio's claim that none of us are counterclaiming her, otherwise we would have done so. Looking at the kill flavors, it's clear that the two kills claimed by esurio are different from the scum kill. That means esurio is confirmed town. That means PatB is confirmed scum. Looker's post was the only thing I needed to be completely sure.

VOTE: PatB

Going to think more on who the remaining scum would be. I've got some suspicions, but I need some time to think about them.