Mystery Box Mafia - Game Over

[Mastermind of Sin]

bah. Go Town!

[Toon Fighter]

FUCK

[Neruz]

What just happened?

[Neruz]

Ignore previous post, it appears i don't think well at 4am and forgot about bah posts.

[danakillsu]

I will be V/LA from July 3rd to July 7th.

If that means you have to replace me, well....
Sucks for me.

Haha, I'm going to be gone longer than that and I'm the mod. XP

[Kublai Khan]

Hmm..

A little mod flavour analysis..
1 suicide
1 shot
1 stabbed
1 blew-up
1 exploded

I'm wagering that Mafia shot Hoopla, which is really strange considering that she claimed an anti-cult ability
Mastermind of Sin was stabbed, which traditionally suggests a Serial Killer. Which makes sense given that we've seen one person's Win Condition changed.
Toon Fighter & bvoigt likely died as a result of a shared action. Maybe bvoigt was a bomb and Toon Fighter visited him? Vice-versa?

The suicide is a weird one. Could have been a one-time box opening action.

I think tomorrow's death count will tell us more. But right now I'm comfortable estimating that we have 1 mafia group & 1 serial killer. The rest of the deaths are likely box-related.

Anyone know what a Time manipulator does?

xvart is scummy.
VOTE: xvart

@MagnaofIllusion - No counter-claim on Hoopla. Interested in your info, though..

[LobsterCatapult]

im checking in, most likely i will be V/LA till tuesday for fourth of july family vacations.

id like to know why inhim hasn't given much reason behind his votes, but i have a null feeling on him right now.

ill have to go back and reread though the mess that was d1, but i still dont really like rikana. need to reread kondi, cooldog and xvart, i dont really like xvarts vote on RC.

i dont know anything about hoopla.

[Primate]

@MOI: Don't follow that there is certainly scum on the wagon. There are some good players in blue there and I don't see any reason why the other two couldn't be town either.

Certainly it is possible that kondi and Hohum might be Town. And it’s certainly possible they might be scum. This is a Null argument you are making.

Fact – CSL was from scum’s perspective a mislynch. By the time it got very viable some people jumped off in hopes of getting more info out of the day. The last chunk of the wagon pretty much was people ignoring that.

Town doesn’t benefit when the day is rushed on a mislynch.

Thus I’d be willing to wager [INVISIBLE PRIZES] that at least one of the last five voters on CSL was scum. Luckily in that regard we already know the alignment of 3 of them.

You said that you believe it to be the case that one of the scum was late on the wagon. There are three good players there who evidently didn't believe what you are saying to be true. Why are you attributing a thought pattern to scum when, from what we've seen, the majority of the 5 you put in the late group thought it was a pro-town thing to do?

I'm not saying you're wrong and they are town, I just don't get how it follows that because there is a block of people involved in a thing that was not pro-town, some of them *must* be scum.

Also, what was your rationale for starting your group at LL instead of Deathnote?

[ReaperCharlie]

:goodposting:

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, mod,

[ReaperCharlie]

be back 5th.

[Kublai Khan]

:goodposting:

Not really. Too many assumptions for not enough answered questions.

I thought about it some more. I think a more reasonable explanation for bvoigt and Mastermind of Sin showing up as vanilla townies is that there might be a janitor-type ability. The only reason that a VT would fake a post restriction in this type of game would be so that they could hide the fact that they opened a more valuable box.

I really can't believe that Hoopla was killed by a pro-town element in this game. I'm really looking forward to MagnaofIllusion's information being brought forward.

Enough setup analysis. Going into scum-hunting mode..

[Primate]

KK, Vig doesn't really fit with any of the kill methods, but I wouldn't be suprised if a vig killed n1 in a game with a d1 like we had.

[Kublai Khan]

KK, Vig doesn't really fit with any of the kill methods, but I wouldn't be suprised if a vig killed n1 in a game with a d1 like we had.

I agree. I'm not seeing evidence of a vig-kill. But we'll figure out more after tomorrow's flips.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@MOD – I’ll be V/LA starting at 4pm EST until Monday at 8pm for my usual family weekend duties.

VOTE: Xvart

Reasons to be revealed in a dramatic manner at a later date.

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I'm wagering that Mafia shot Hoopla, which is really strange considering that she claimed an anti-cult ability

Yeah, I think this is very unlikely for reasons that will be made apparent at a future date.

I generally don’t like that much NK-flavor speculation so early.

But I do like your vote.

I think a more reasonable explanation for bvoigt and Mastermind of Sin showing up as vanilla townies is that there might be a janitor-type ability. The only reason that a VT would fake a post restriction in this type of game would be so that they could hide the fact that they opened a more valuable box.

I think that your second explanation (VT gambitting to prevent knowledge that they had not opened their box) makes more sense than double Janitored players.

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ill have to go back and reread though the mess that was d1, but i still dont really like rikana. need to reread kondi, cooldog and xvart, i dont really like xvarts vote on RC.

You’d get bonus Town points for elaborating why you dislike xvart’s vote if it is the reason I dislike it.

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You said that you believe it to be the case that one of the scum was late on the wagon. There are three good players there who evidently didn't believe what you are saying to be true. Why are you attributing a thought pattern to scum when, from what we've seen, the majority of the 5 you put in the late group thought it was a pro-town thing to do?

Because it wasn’t a Pro-Town thing to do, regardless of how much you like said dead Townies later on the wagon. It was god-awfully not Pro-Town.

Do you dispute that scum like to push non-scum Mislynches? Do you think that all scum on the CSL wagon appeared early? Do you dispute the notion that there are likely multiple scum on the CSL wagon?

Also, what was your rationale for starting your group at LL instead of Deathnote?

Arbitrarily chosen based on gut and professional judgement.

[Juls]

VOTE: Xvart

Reasons to be revealed in a dramatic manner at a later date.

I'll bite

Unvote, Vote xvart

Also, Neruz, can you full claim your box because yesterday you were saying you thought it would make you crazy and now today what you are saying doesn't match up.

Note:
(Rhinox and I still waiting for Junox to be activated but we will only post from my account to avoid confusion).

[Seraphim]

kondi2424 has asked for a replacement. I'll start running down the list.

[hohum]

FUCK ME I JUST OPENED A BOX AND GOT A POST RESTRICTION. ENJOY RAGE!

[Juls]

FUCK ME I JUST OPENED A BOX AND GOT A POST RESTRICTION. ENJOY RAGE!

LOL

[Seraphim]

Empking replaces kondi2424

[Empking]

Vote: Neruz

- Mostly ISO 58.

Neruz: Can you claim further wrt your box?

I also agree with MOI's analysis that they'll be at least one scum on the tail-end of CSL's wagon.

[Empking]

I also agree with MOI's analysis that they'll be at least one scum on the tail-end of CSL's wagon.

My guess would be Deathnote.

[Juls]

A thought: RC gains a syllable each phase. That, to me, implies that he can night talk. Discuss.

[Empking]

A thought: RC gains a syllable each phase. That, to me, implies that he can night talk. Discuss.

But how can it? Even if he is a night talker he could have traded it off to a non-night talker.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah, that's what