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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:40 am

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GreyICE wrote:
Seacore wrote:I'm not as convinced Ze, but you've definitely got me wavering now.
Sigh.
I guess I'll be starting my own wagon then, since I don't like any of the current ones.

Unvote. Vote Lowell


Oh god why are we lynching Lowell? Can we just tell CKD to vig him whenever he gets a chance and have it done with?

There is no goddamn reason to lynch captain 'lurker I didn't read the thread' when we have an activity vig.


oh now you notice I am in the room?....if scum were worried I was going to off one of there own(a lurker), they would have offed me..

can we please lynch this guy?...I dont get the seacore wagon....and I am not exactly sure why everyone is letting this guy get by?


Elli suspected him...dead.
Fate suspected him...dead.

He started off yesterday with a fake breadcrumb and voting with Hezscum.

I have pushed him against a wall and now he is avoiding my questions.

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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:43 am

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(banging head against the monitor)
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:50 am

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also just to be noted...FA has passed the 72 hours mark.

that being said, I am 95% sure he is town (given hez's day one interaction with him) and will not off him today.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:56 am

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How the fuck am I avoiding your questions? They were moronic. They remain moronic. You want me to explain why you read a breadcrumb that DIDN'T EXIST into my posts, and are mad at me that I didn't anticipate your insane logic and explain it yesterday.

As for there being not a single lurking scumbag, that'd be literally a first in a game this size. Always one, smart money is on Vez or DeityKab.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:59 am

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Vote No-Lynch


Don't mind me, I'm DK.

This is just until I do a good re-read over D3 and decide who's scum.
This is just until I do a good re-read over D2 and decide who's scum.
This is just until I do a good re-read over D1 and decide who's scum.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:14 am

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Seacore's post 1107 makes me feel bad. Ze did not say anything new about EPM, yet Seacore said he was now a little more convinced he was town. SCUM SCUM SCUM WHO SEES THE EPM WAGON HASN'T PICKED UP?

Amrun wrote:Snarky: the obvious "don't lynch me bro" context.


... was I just NEAR to be lynched, did ZeLink even HAVE a vote on me? wtf are you talking about.

EvilPacMan's VCA made me feel better about this slot just because I agree with his reads.

earworm's 1118 is meh... he even forgot me!?! Proof that he doesn't really care about his reads...

Llamarble wrote:Snarky's vote is entirely uncorrelated with his town/scumlists, which were what I thought was good about him. He can die.


How? GreyIce was on my list, my vote is on GreyICE... and FYI, my list wasn't in order.

Llamarble wrote:
Snarky wrote:CKD bussed Hez all day long, thus it is improbable they are on the same scumteam.

Why must people simultaneously claim scum and self-contradict...
The people Snarky posts reasoning about aren't the people he votes for / tries to lynch. This bothers me a lot.


I'm trying to read the most people I can, I'm not tunneling. How is it scummy anyway?


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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:45 am

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>@everyone...I want your stance on grey...why is he a bad wagon?

Does 'everyone' apply to me, too? Lynching Grey would be interesting. But I don't hang out with no filthy hyenas, so I'm staying here.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:07 am

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Heeeeeeey

Sorry I got distracted by holiday weekend. I will get back on track today.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:08 am

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DeityKabuto wrote:
Vote No-Lynch


Don't mind me, I'm DK.

This is just until I do a good re-read over D3 and decide who's scum.
This is just until I do a good re-read over D2 and decide who's scum.
This is just until I do a good re-read over D1 and decide who's scum.

So you just claimed to be blatantly acting scummy, but we shouldn't notice because you're an idiot who doesn't know any better?

You
know
you're acting scummy but we should believe that you are an idiot who
doesn't know any better?


Care to explain yourself in a manner that doesn't make me scream 'obvscum?'
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:37 am

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VOTE: Amrun

snarky wrote:EvilPacMan's VCA made me feel better about this slot just because I agree with his reads.


were we reading the same vca? that was textbook IIoA. For a good VCA read Tajo's from earlier in the day

earworm's 1118 is meh... he even forgot me!?! Proof that he doesn't really care about his reads...


Dude. Like GI said earlier. There's 18 people. Don't throw a hissy fit every time somone leaves you off their reads. I didn't give reads for a few people. deal with it. (p.s. You are null leaning town)

[quote="Llamarble]I think EKobvtown is being overstated, which alarms me.[/quote]

I pretty much mean what Seacore is saying. She's my number one town read plus she's playing the best imo. Why do you put her at null because people a bunch of people have similar reads?

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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:59 am

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Altilysian wrote:
populartajo wrote:I isolated both seacore and vezok.

Can everyone, specially those voting seacore, tell me why are you prefering seacore to vezok?


Tajo, how do you feel about Vezok's early antelope claim?

after some analysis I dont think vezokscum has the skills to try this kind of gambits, so Im going with town.

Back to the drawing board since this means ice is prob scum.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:07 am

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This votecount is IMPORTANT AS FCK

mod wrote:HezLucky (7) - Flavour Analysis, ZeL1nK, populartajo, vezokpiraka, GreyICE, Fate, DietyKabuto
Llamarble (6) - elvis_knits, Seacore, curiouskarmadog, Lowell, snarky, Cirno


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a) who is the scum(s) in Lllamarble wagon?

b) who is the scum(s) bussing in Hez wagon?
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:12 am

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My choices:

a) Snarky, maybe Lowell.

b) Greyice, maybe DK.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:15 am

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populartajo wrote:after some analysis I dont think vezokscum has the skills to try this kind of gambits, so Im going with town.

Back to the drawing board since this means ice is prob scum.

:roll:

Vezok has a meta of early claiming. A while ago we used it to nail him as scum since he also botched his fakeclaims like nobodies business (really. You have no idea).

He thinks its nifty he's prepped his fakeclaim ahead of time. It was full of cheeky 'hehe they won't ever suspect me' goodness.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:17 am

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LINK PLZ
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:24 am

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populartajo wrote:LINK PLZ

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthre ... ost6412529

Leading to this legendary post:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost ... count=1360


Also this:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p2894329


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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:26 am

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Ugh, VCAs full of confirmation bias. Not nearly as much analysis as I had hoped.

Grey, answer my question, please?
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:29 am

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What question?
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:34 am

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How confident are you in vezokscum and why - with examples?
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:47 am

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GreyICE wrote:How the fuck am I avoiding your questions? They were moronic. They remain moronic. You want me to explain why you read a breadcrumb that DIDN'T EXIST into my posts, and are mad at me that I didn't anticipate your insane logic and explain it yesterday.



THIS IS A LIE!!!!!....THIS IS A LIE….THIS IS A LIE!
You first claimed you didn’t understand the questions.
GreyICE wrote:...

What?

Can I have that again in English please?


NOW you are claiming that you are not answering them because they are moronic!!

Here are the questions you are avoiding…you said you couldn’t understand my post, so I broke it down LINE BY LINE to find out exactly what you were having problems understanding…you avoided this.


curiouskarmadog wrote:FA, there are questions in the original post as well.

plus, I still want to know what "smelled" so bad about me at the beginning of Day 2 that Grey had to vote me (with Hez)...

curiouskarmadog wrote:okay keep trying to avoid the questions....lets break it down.

curiouskarmadog wrote:no, that is not exactly what I am saying...I am saying that your "smells" comment looks like a breadcrumb that you might or might not have used later


what part of this do you not understand?

curiouskarmadog wrote:....I missed it the first time because it is a phrase people use...but rereading the claim..I now understand the votes that followed, because it DOES look like a crumb


Okay I get where maybe this was confusing, instead of "claim" but in "possible crumb"..anything else here you didnt get?

curiouskarmadog wrote:..... Maybe it is a coinidence that Hez fakeclaimed cop...maybe it isnt...


what part of this do you not understand?

curiouskarmadog wrote:..... maybe it is a coinidence that Fate died last night when he said over and over again that you were scum..maybe it isnt.



what part of this do you not understand?


curiouskarmadog wrote:..all I know is my scum dar is going off.

so you dont see where I am coming from on this?...you want to put forward that I am just a moron?



what part of this do you not understand?

curiouskarmadog wrote:..
why did you not answer those questions yesterday?


what part of this do you not understand?



but let me just ask them again...along with what part you didnt understand, answer the following questions!


1.) What “smelled” off about me yesterday that you voted me out of the Gate day 2? You have been asked this numerous times by several people, but wont commit to anything, do it NOW

2.) when asked yesterday (AND TODAY) what “smelled” bad yesterday…why did you not answer?

3.)You keep calling me a moron(your buddy hez went with the insults too), but I asked you if you really couldn’t see my point of you in regards to this? To be clear, there are two dead people who thought you were scum…Hezscum voted me yesterday…as did you with NO EXPLANATION…AND you used the phrasing “smell” in a game where everyone is an animal….so you really don’t see why I think you are scum and I am just being a moron?...WHY…what about my suspicion is moronic? I know you think the "smell" issue is moronic...BUT ADDRESS THE REST
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:48 am

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god dammit, now he is lying..please can we lynch him now.
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:58 am

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GreyICE wrote:
populartajo wrote:after some analysis I dont think vezokscum has the skills to try this kind of gambits, so Im going with town.

Back to the drawing board since this means ice is prob scum.

:roll:

Vezok has a meta of early claiming. A while ago we used it to nail him as scum since he also botched his fakeclaims like nobodies business (really. You have no idea).

He thinks its nifty he's prepped his fakeclaim ahead of time. It was full of cheeky 'hehe they won't ever suspect me' goodness.


I've been thinking about this. I've been considering him pretty much cleared, but upon rereading, something's troubling me.

vezokpiraka wrote:I was claiming Antelope.
I'm not claiming role lol.


That he didn't claim his role (VT) made it a safer gambit. As Cirno mentioned before, he could have easily just picked a common prey animal. I'm still not sure about this one. However, if GreyICE's assertions are true, then yes, he could definitely have been fakeclaiming (I'm gonna take a look at GI's links).

populartajo wrote:This votecount is IMPORTANT AS FCK

mod wrote:HezLucky (7) - Flavour Analysis, ZeL1nK, populartajo, vezokpiraka, GreyICE, Fate, DietyKabuto
Llamarble (6) - elvis_knits, Seacore, curiouskarmadog, Lowell, snarky, Cirno


Everyone should answer in following post these next two questions:

a) who is the scum(s) in Lllamarble wagon?

b) who is the scum(s) bussing in Hez wagon?


a) Llamarble wagon: possibly Seacore
b) Bussers: vezok (?), GreyICE

That being said, I'm glad people are stepping it up with the analysis recently (Seacore, GreyICE, pacman, llamarble). Of course, it does not completely absolve them and it concerns me that I was unsatisfied with nearly all of GreyICE's content before to[game]day. I also think CKD's NK speculation has merit. Still, I liked this answer:

GreyICE wrote:Answer 1!
I'm not a motherfucking psychic. Though I clearly explained that my opinion is that when the scum kill an obv-town player without strong reads like Ellibereth, it means the other town players are off track, and I changed my tack. THIS STRATEGY WAS SUCCESSFUL. Looking outside the strong day 1 wagons lynched us scum.


Might explain why he randomly voted CKD at the beginning of yester[game]day.

I'm feeling better about Seacore now.
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I'm eying the people we have less content from now, just because they are harder to read.

I'm feeling really "meh" about the Amrun wagon. I thought she was pretty scummy in the beginning of the game, but since, I think she's been genuinely trying to find scum. Maybe if some of the Amrun voters could explain their case some more, I would be more inclined to swing that way.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:02 am

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Cirno wrote:
>@everyone...I want your stance on grey...why is he a bad wagon?

Does 'everyone' apply to me, too? Lynching Grey would be interesting. But I don't hang out with no filthy hyenas, so I'm staying here.

interesting stance....I get why you might think I am some type of scum(shurg I cant change that I am a hyena, would you rather I had lied about my animal to look townier?), but that aside, are you saying you dont agree with my case against Grey? do you think he is town? why?
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:08 am

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1) What smelled off about you? Your contributions to the game were an enormous pig fart. You tunneled on one player and didn't even comment on ANYTHING else happening. Every post was just more whining about that one player. Apparently you have turned that into a playstyle. Good job. It's scummy, it's useless, and it accomplishes nothing.

2) What the fuck? I did not anticipate that you'd think that was a breadcrumb because I don't speak
moron.
Period.

3) Because. You're. Really. Stupid.

I'm seriously tired of this shit. Go fuck off and die somewhere.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:51 am

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populartajo wrote:
mod wrote:HezLucky (7) - Flavour Analysis, ZeL1nK, populartajo, vezokpiraka, GreyICE, Fate, DietyKabuto
Llamarble (6) - elvis_knits, Seacore, curiouskarmadog, Lowell, snarky, Cirno


Everyone should answer in following post these next two questions:

a) who is the scum(s) in Lllamarble wagon?

b) who is the scum(s) bussing in Hez wagon?


a) Lowell and probably Cirno

b) I'm leaning scum on FA. And one of GI and Vezo is probably scum, right now I'm leaning vezo. This wagon is by far the harder of the two to read.

altily wrote:a) Llamarble wagon: possibly Seacore
...
I'm feeling better about Seacore now.
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