A Gentleman's Game of Guile, Subterfuge, and Intrigue (Fin)
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Last post for now: AV and Feysal, any thoughts on whether the way jilynne1991 overlooks Hoppster in 90/91 is a scumslip like the 2 scum comment was? Just wondering if she forgot him because he's her partner...
I think I'm going to go see if she has any completed scum games to see how she played as scum. In this game she's seemed particularly alert to Feysal's posts and seemed to be somewhat following his lead at times. On the other hand, she's hardly mentioned Hoppster at all. I don't know which she's more likely to do as newbscum.
I do think her interactions with AV read fairly genuine scum - town rather than scumbuddies.- AurorusVox
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Hoppster wrote:I take slight offense with the two underlined statements, given how I was putting forward arguments for jily-town, but really, there's not a great deal I think is incredibly incriminating about the post. jilynne probably always was going to be the lynch, no matter what I said.
I was put off by the "further discussion is meaningless" as FeysalTown strikes me as the sort of player who would value discussion. The hammer initially looked to me like a quickhammer and I have to admit that for a moment I wished I hadn't voted, as I was sure Feysal-Hoppster had just won. For comparison, note this post where Feysal acknowledges his intention to hammer before actually hammering, and here where he again delays hammering to draw out the last little bit of discussion from the day.
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Feysal wrote:Regarding Hoppster's request for a deadline extension, I never saw that as such a solid town tell. Obvious town tells are easiest to fake, therefore I find subtle tells more reliable, since they are more difficult to falsify and mafia rarely bother to try, since the town might not even notice them. Now that I look at the situation in which Hoppster made his request, I see no cause for concern why the mafia might not want the day to continue. All three wagons of the time were on town (Twistedspoon, Apokalyptika/Reya, kr0b/Toasty), and from a mafia viewpoint it should've looked like they had a mislynch in the bag.
This is a fair point.
Feysal wrote:As for his defence of Jilynne, at first glance it looks bad, save for one thing. Already in his first post yesterday Hoppster said that Jilynne was probably the lynch of the day, and even though he kept up his defence of her, he never tried to bring up an alternative to her lynch. Neither did anyone else from what I recall. I can't see the point of defending your partner if there is no viable alternative to her lynch anyway.
Really? Isn't what you've just said reason enough? If we sided with Hoppster yesterday and decided that Jily wasn't the lynch, if Hoppster was her buddy, they'd have probably won there and then since we'd likely have believed in Hoppster town if we agreed with his assessment of Jily.
Feysal wrote:I find it unlikely that imaginality would be the last mafia, as he was under heavy suspicion at the time he claimed friendly neighbour, and I don't see mafia sacrificing a player not under suspicion to save one who is, to obtain a clear that erodes the moment your partner flips.
Very true.
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imaginality wrote:Last post for now: AV and Feysal, any thoughts on whether the way jilynne1991 overlooks Hoppster in 90/91 is a scumslip like the 2 scum comment was? Just wondering if she forgot him because he's her partner...
I think it's possible, but it's equally possible she was forgetting to include herself in the figures. It could actually be construed as a towntell - she doesn't paint a townie as scum because she forgets that she might need to do so. I'm kind of unsettled by her adamant notion that one of me or Feysal "has" to be scum. I'm wondering if she's saying this because she -knows- its true.THE LEMON LIVES! - Cabd- Feysal
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imaginality [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3235569#p3235569]#1073[/url] wrote:Feysal, in iso16, you said you had a meta town read of AurorusVox - does that still apply?
The meta read was in part based on his play in There Goes the Neighborhood being similar to his play here, and I believed he'd be town in both games. I was wrong in that game, I could be wrong here, so that meta has become quite useless and unreliable.
imaginality [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3235779#p3235779]#1075[/url] wrote:Last post for now: AV and Feysal, any thoughts on whether the way jilynne1991 overlooks Hoppster in 90/91 is a scumslip like the 2 scum comment was? Just wondering if she forgot him because he's her partner...
That would be really weird, but not outside the realm of possibility. The way she says she's used to games having an odd number of players makes little sense to me, and sounds like it could be an excuse.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3237423#p3237423]#1076[/url] wrote:I was put off by the "further discussion is meaningless" as FeysalTown strikes me as the sort of player who would value discussion. The hammer initially looked to me like a quickhammer and I have to admit that for a moment I wished I hadn't voted, as I was sure Feysal-Hoppster had just won. For comparison, note this post where Feysal acknowledges his intention to hammer before actually hammering, and here where he again delays hammering to draw out the last little bit of discussion from the day.
The difference is that this time I saw no discussion on lynching anyone other than Jilynne. The way vezokpiraka, imaginality and you endorsed Jilynne's death within the span of a few posts made it look like there would not be any either, and since I had nothing against her death myself, I hammered. I felt that we could continue the discussion of who her partner was today, and had we been proven wrong about her, having that discussion yesterday would have been a waste of time and effort.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3237423#p3237423]#1076[/url] wrote:Really? Isn't what you've just said reason enough? If we sided with Hoppster yesterday and decided that Jily wasn't the lynch, if Hoppster was her buddy, they'd have probably won there and then since we'd likely have believed in Hoppster town if we agreed with his assessment of Jily.
True, but they would still have needed a viable mislynch to push over Jilynne, and I can't see one.- Hoppster
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imaginality wrote:Hoppster, do you still agree with what you said about the ToastyToast townflip implying AurorusVox is town?
Welllll.
To an extent, yes. I think it's a town-tell.
I'm not as confident in its strength as I was previously though.
As you'll see below, I am still however leaning towards a Feysal lynch.
jilynne1991 wrote:Well I think Feysal is scummy, because of PoE.
For you, it's because, I feel like I can never quite get a read on you. It's kind of like, I think you're a good enough player, that you won't scumslip, even if you were scum.
Out of this, jily's attack on Feysal looksmuchmore like distancing/inside knowledge than her attack on AVox.
Looking at her very first post:
jilynne1991 wrote:Sir Cookiebringer and Lord Hur both seem quite suspicious to me, but I'll plan on analyzing and rereading some of their posts first, before voting. Out of everyone, I'd say the following people seem to be leaning town:
inHimshallibe ++++ (he seems to be writing very good content)
Feysal ++
Sir Hoppster ++
If I make any mistakes, I'm not trying to use the newb excuse, but I just recently joined, and although I've read through 20 or so games, I haven't completed any, yet.
Her style here is copied from AVox's post:
Spoiler: AVox's post
And as I have previously expressed in Open 310:
Hoppster wrote:Trying to think about Newb-scum, I think even Newb-scum would be aware enough not to just blindly sheep their scumbuddy but I can certainly see newb-scum sheeping town.
Overally, I am strongly leaning towards Feysal for today based on jily's posts.
imaginality wrote:Last post for now: AV and Feysal, any thoughts on whether the way jilynne1991 overlooks Hoppster in 90/91 is a scumslip like the 2 scum comment was? Just wondering if she forgot him because he's her partner...
Open 310: jilynne provided a confused list of reads, which included one slot twice (chkflip/IceGuy) and didn't include one slot (Quilford) at all. Both slots were town.Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.- AurorusVox
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Feysal wrote:The meta read was in part based on his play in There Goes the Neighborhood being similar to his play here, and I believed he'd be town in both games. I was wrong in that game, I could be wrong here, so that meta has become quite useless and unreliable.
Part of me wonders if you only really thought I was town there because you knew I was town here...do you ordinarily treat tunnelling as a towntell?
Feysal wrote:The difference is that this time I saw no discussion on lynching anyone other than Jilynne. The way vezokpiraka, imaginality and you endorsed Jilynne's death within the span of a few posts made it look like there would not be any either, and since I had nothing against her death myself, I hammered. I felt that we could continue the discussion of who her partner was today, and had we been proven wrong about her, having that discussion yesterday would have been a waste of time and effort.
There certainly was; Hoppster had put forwards a case on Jily town that might have been listened to, and you were building a case yesterday. In TGtN you didn't want to lose even a few hours, even though it was pretty obvious that Regfan was getting lynched. If you were town, I kind of feel you'd have wanted more time to make your case - hammering Jily could have lost town the game if she's scum, and TownFeysal surely would have wanted to maximise the opportunity to discuss alternatives, rather than just accepting that there were no alternatives. Plus the fact that AV+Imaginality+Vezok isn't enough to see a lynch through means that you had all the time in the world to discuss other possible lynches.
Feysal wrote:True, but they would still have needed a viable mislynch to push over Jilynne, and I can't see one.
If you're town, then you'd have been a viable mislynch as you were floating around near the top of peoples' scum-list; are you not considering that because you know you're scum and therefore wouldn't have been a mislynch...?
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Re: inHim lying. Seems unlikely to me, the vig claim was enough on its own I think. If he was lying, it means we don't have a mafia roleblocker, but the only thing that would change suspects-wise is that vezok could still have been GF, but he's dead now anyhow.
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AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3240193#p3240193]#1079[/url] wrote:Part of me wonders if you only really thought I was town there because you knew I was town here... do you ordinarily treat tunnelling as a towntell?
I can't recall if I've explicitly said so in any past games, but I would treat tunnelling as a town tell. Particularly stubborn tunnelling, where the player in question starts looking suspect himself because of it. Mafia have no motive to draw attention to themselves like that, or to provide a clear should they die before the target of their tunnelling. Town has that motive if they think they've found mafia, and they have less to lose from death if the tunnelling ends badly for them.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3240193#p3240193]#1079[/url] wrote:There certainly was; Hoppster had put forwards a case on Jily town that might have been listened to, and you were building a case yesterday. In TGtN you didn't want to lose even a few hours, even though it was pretty obvious that Regfan was getting lynched. If you were town, I kind of feel you'd have wanted more time to make your case - hammering Jily could have lost town the game if she's scum, and TownFeysal surely would have wanted to maximise the opportunity to discuss alternatives, rather than just accepting that there were no alternatives. Plus the fact that AV+Imaginality+Vezok isn't enough to see a lynch through means that you had all the time in the world to discuss other possible lynches.
Really. Hoppster was the only one talking about Jilynne possibly being town, and the three of you made it abundantly clear you were not listening when you called for her death. As for my case, have you forgotten that I suspected you and Jilynne of being mafia together? Jilynne was by far my stronger suspect, so why would I even want to keep pushing you over her? I did have something to say about that, which I did and ended the day.
As for TGtN, the major difference is that yesterday we were at LYLO. In TGtN we were not. Had we been wrong about Jilynne, nothing I or anyone else could've said about other suspects would've mattered. In TGtN we had one more day regardless, so obtaining Regfan's final thoughts that day did matter.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3240193#p3240193]#1079[/url] wrote:If you're town, then you'd have been a viable mislynch as you were floating around near the top of peoples' scum-list; are you not considering that because you know you're scum and therefore wouldn't have been a mislynch...?
I may have been near the top, but Jilynne was at the top, and flailing like mad. There was no way in hell I'd have been lynched over her.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3240193#p3240193]#1079[/url] wrote:...Does anyone think InHim might have been lying about shooting Toasty to get the wagon off of himself?
To what end? As a serial killer he must have been desperate to kill the mafia before they killed him, so I can't see any reason why he'd lie.
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Feysal wrote:I can't recall if I've explicitly said so in any past games, but I would treat tunnelling as a town tell. Particularly stubborn tunnelling, where the player in question starts looking suspect himself because of it. Mafia have no motive to draw attention to themselves like that, or to provide a clear should they die before the target of their tunnelling. Town has that motive if they think they've found mafia, and they have less to lose from death if the tunnelling ends badly for them.
So is it purely because I tunnelled in TGtN that you're now no longer holding that view? What do you make of the fact that I tunnelled on my buddy, and not a townie? What do you make of the same tunneling-on-scum in my game Mutiny on the High Seas?
Feysal wrote:Really. Hoppster was the only one talking about Jilynne possibly being town, and the three of you made it abundantly clear you were not listening when you called for her death. As for my case, have you forgotten that I suspected you and Jilynne of being mafia together? Jilynne was by far my stronger suspect, so why would I even want to keep pushing you over her? I did have something to say about that, which I did and ended the day.
Ehh, you made it sound like you only hammered/considered voting Jily yesterday because you saw no other alternative, and that was - to an extent - something you wish hadn't been the case. If you were even a little confident in Jily scum, couldn't you have pressed her further (like I was doing) to name her "suspects" for future analysis after she flipped?
Feysal wrote:As for TGtN, the major difference is that yesterday we were at LYLO. In TGtN we were not. Had we been wrong about Jilynne, nothing I or anyone else could've said about other suspects would've mattered. In TGtN we had one more day regardless, so obtaining Regfan's final thoughts that day did matter.
I understand this in theory, but I still would expect you to try to get more from the day. You didn't even announce your intent and ask if there was anything else to say before dropping it.
Feysal wrote:To what end? As a serial killer he must have been desperate to kill the mafia before they killed him, so I can't see any reason why he'd lie.
Why does this matter anyway?
Just wondering for modWIFOM setup spec. The "end" would have been deflecting the lynch away from himself and onto someone else - after all, it was live that day or lose for him. I know some SKs might only be one-shot, and if he was lying, it would mean we might not have a RB'er after all; but if he was telling the truth, we obviously do, and we might be able to look to see who was under threat from InHim action (i.e. who might have been in trouble if he was a PR) on N2, and look at who he might have shot N3.
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I figured out the alarm bells I've been feeling around Hoppster are around how his activity dropped off so much after D2 compared to before:
Player: posts per day D1, D2, D3, D4, D5 --- D1-D2, D3-D5
AurorusVox: n/a, 2.3, 2.2, 3.3, 1.2 --- 2.3, 2.2
Feysal: 0.4, 0.6, 0.4, 0.4, 0.6 --- 0.5, 0.5
Hoppster: 2.7, 1.4, 0.6, 0.9, 0.4 --- 2.1, 0.6
imaginality: 0.9, 0.4, 1.3, 0.8, 1.4 --- 0.7, 1.2
Mine increased because I was deliberately coasting D1-D2 so I wouldn't be nightkilled (so my Friendly Neighbour power could be of value). Not sure why Hoppster's decreased so much though (even ignoring the fact he tunnelled on Twistedspoon D1).- Hoppster
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As for my activity dropping off, I think that's just something I do, regardless of alignment. I don't know why. I tend to gradually get less pro-active as games go on for some reason. I definitely noticed myself doing that in Open 310 and to some degree in Candy Zoo Mafia and Source Code Mafia. There's some more numbers for you to go analyse, imaginality.
Where I'm at
imaginality is not scum
AVox could be scum - a few bad feelings linger from my very first game on site where a player with a Citrus avatar was also, on the face of things, pretty town, and was actually scum. It's illogical of me really to feel this way, but, well, it's kinda creepy.
Feysal is the most likely to be scum in my mind, given interactions with jily.
imaginality is not scum (but entertaining the off-chance he is scum, definitely deserves a win for ballsy play)
AVox, if scum, has played a good game and I would not feel paticularly cheated if he won.
Feysal, if scum, has lurk-lurked and I would feel somewhat cheated if he won.
jilynne1991 wrote:Ok, vezok is definitely town.
Feysal...ehhhh from process of elimination, I think he's scum.
Looks like distancing/bussing.
jilynne1991 wrote:Well I think Feysal is scummy, because of PoE.
For you, it's because, I feel like I can never quite get a read on you. It's kind of like, I think you're a good enough player, that you won't scumslip, even if you were scum.
Looks like distancing/bussing.
jilynne1991 wrote:LOL...AV, do you know how I play as scum? You should check out some of my games.
If I thought that I was scum, I wouldn't think about Hoppster. I would just look towards you or Feysal.
I'd like AV lynched first, since to be honest, I never really trusted him. I always though he could be scum, because he seemed like a really good player and wouldn't slip up, but he looked townie enough.
Does not look like distancing/bussing.
VOTE: Feysal
I can't really see myself voting anybody else today. Even though I've got a few bad feelings about AVox (mostly gut), I think Feysal is most likely scum and would also feel most cheated were Feysal-scum to win (due to the lack of posting).
I know I'm not personally getting much out of the ongoing Feysal-AVox discussions and imaginality's numbers, while interesting, were never going to be the basis of my vote. I've just been prodded, and it's because, well, I don't really have much to say, other than "I hope Feysal's scum and I will be voting for him". It just seems pointless for me to say "Well I'm going to be voting Feysal" when I can vote him and be slightly more productive.Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.- imaginality
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Casting my gaze around at the matterless space where our fallen comrades (and the two scoundrels) once stood, I find myself pondering a paradox similar to the 'Barber paradox' of the Ancient Greeks. What is the minimum number of fellows required in order for the event to still be termed a 'gathering'? Four seems a scanty number, but alas, we cannot muster any more, any longer.
Still, gathering or no, permit me to share with you three fellows some recent musings of mine, detailed in my notebook. Forgive the lack of formality in my words:
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I had a look at Hoppster's other games. He slowed down a bit more in his scum games than his town ones but there's counter-examples in each - steady as scum, slowing as town. So yeah, I can accept it's not a clear tell.
For the record, a lot of this number-crunching and re-reading I've been doing lately hasn't been to actually try to logically rationally analyse everything. I've put the numbers out there in case others find them useful or react to them interestingly, but the main purpose has been to attempt to push all the data of this game into my head and then wait and see what my subconscious flags up. It's warned me in lylo in other games and I've ignored it. Trying not to do that any more, so I wanted to give it plenty of chance to filter through stuff.
It's not warning me against going with my first instincts of lynching Feysal. And there are a few other specific thoughts I've had which fit with Feysal scum better than Hoppster scum:
1. I remembered I had a PR read on Feysal (not publicly stated, of course) until the mass claim. Lurky scum can often give off PR vibes.
2. A two-man scum team have got to be worried about a second scum team or an SK. Going into D1 as hard as Hoppster did is pretty risky; he could easily have been an NK target that night.
3. Indeed, if perchance, StrangerCoug died protecting anyone N1 rather than targeted directly (not unlikely, as he wasn't obvtown in my eyes at least), it was more likely Hoppster than Feysal that he protected based on his reads.
If AurorusVox is scum, I agree with Hoppster, he's simply outplayed us. (And I need a better brain.)
Likewise with Hoppster. If he wins as scum, he's done it boldly.
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I follow Sir Hoppster in casting my ballot thusly:
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Votecount 5.1
Feysalimaginality, Sir Hoppster(2):
Not VotingFeysal, AurorusVox, Phd.(2):
With 4 alive it takes3to lynch
Deadline isJuly 24, 2011
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Well, I see I'm at L-1. I'd claim, but I've already done so.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3247188#p3247188]#1083[/url] wrote:So is it purely because I tunnelled in TGtN that you're now no longer holding that view? What do you make of the fact that I tunnelled on my buddy, and not a townie? What do you make of the same tunneling-on-scum in my game Mutiny on the High Seas?
I never said I would no longer hold that view. I simply recognize that it does not apply to you. And I make nothing of your tunnelling behaviour in other games. As far as I'm concerned, your actions in TGtN have corrupted your meta beyond recovery, and nothing you say or do should ever be trusted. If we were not already in LYLO, I would've wanted you dead, no questions asked.
This is now an academic question though, as your lack of hammer makes my choice remarkably easy.
Vote: Hoppster
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3247188#p3247188]#1083[/url] wrote:Ehh, you made it sound like you only hammered/considered voting Jily yesterday because you saw no other alternative, and that was - to an extent - something you wish hadn't been the case. If you were even a little confident in Jily scum, couldn't you have pressed her further (like I was doing) to name her "suspects" for future analysis after she flipped?
You had already done an adequate job of questioning her, and I never thought there was need for more. And had I known how suspicious her posts would make me look, I would've been even less inclined to hear more of them.
For your knowledge, there is a game out there called Faith + 1 where Jilynne had an interesting performance. She replaced into a mafia slot that had already been investigated by a sane cop, and said result had been revealed. Consequently she admitted to being mafia and spent another twenty or so posts messing the town with WIFOM. She in fact outed her last surviving partner, who went on to win the game for the mafia team. It was finding games like this that made me realize my town read on her was misguided, and now it should serve as a warning not to put too much stock in her words.
AurorusVox [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3247188#p3247188]#1083[/url] wrote:Is getting thoughts on these things a bad thing, Feysal?
Guess not, though their usefulness in hunting mafia eludes me.
Hoppster [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3249168#p3249168]#1085[/url] wrote:Feysal, if scum, has lurk-lurked and I would feel somewhat cheated if he won.
I understand the suspicions on me based on Jilynne's posts, even though I obviously disagree with them, but this I take issue with. I don't know why imaginality picked the games he did as representative of my town play, but those two are in fact two of my most active on the site, with the sole exception of Mafia Holographica, where 24-hour deadlines necessitated a much higher rate of posting. In my other recent games, including There Goes the Neighborhood where I was town, my rate of posting has been comparable to here. How active I am in a game depends on several factors, such as how active the game is in general, how well it keeps my interest, and how much time and energy I have to spend into mafia in the first place. I have not been lurking this game. Currently a rate of one post every one or two days is as good as it gets for me.- AurorusVox
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Feysal wrote:This is now an academic question though, as your lack of hammer makes my choice remarkably easy.
I'm glad I had an easier way of revealing my true colours than getting dragged into a meta-argument, since Idofeel its relevant that I've never really tunnelled on town as scum (and being town here does kinda prove my point).
WARNING: I am highly capable of WIFOMing my way out of a winning hammer on scum and hammering town instead. Imaginality, please tell me what it is precisely that makes you lean towards Feysal scum over Hoppster scum?
I do think we're right on Feysal but I also thought we were right on Toasty so just want to make sure.THE LEMON LIVES! - Cabd- imaginality
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The main reasons for me voting Feysal over Hoppster (or you, before you proved yourself town just now) are:
* Feysal's play this game fits with lurkish scum play and his activity levels are in line with his scum meta
* Hoppster's aggressive and centre-of-attention play D1 seems particularly bold for a two-man scum team
* Jilynne1991 seemed to pick up on what Feysal was saying in particular (compared with other players), in slightly odd ways
* I think scum were most likely to quietly go along with a jilynne1991 lynch yesterday - Hoppster's doubts about it read to me as genuine town jumpy about the thought of mislynching, rather than scum trying to save his buddy
* My PR gut feel about Feysal up until the roleclaims would be nicely explained by him being scum (another role with hidden knowledge and reason for cautious play)- Hoppster
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Feysal wrote:Hoppster [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=3249168#p3249168]#1085[/url] wrote:Feysal, if scum, has lurk-lurked and I would feel somewhat cheated if he won.
I understand the suspicions on me based on Jilynne's posts, even though I obviously disagree with them, but this I take issue with. I don't know why imaginality picked the games he did as representative of my town play, but those two are in fact two of my most active on the site, with the sole exception of Mafia Holographica, where 24-hour deadlines necessitated a much higher rate of posting. In my other recent games, including There Goes the Neighborhood where I was town, my rate of posting has been comparable to here. How active I am in a game depends on several factors, such as how active the game is in general, how well it keeps my interest, and how much time and energy I have to spend into mafia in the first place. I have not been lurking this game. Currently a rate of one post every one or two days is as good as it gets for me.
Regardless of whether you've been lurking with intent or due to RL issues, relative lack of posting just makes a scum victory from that slot a lot harder to take. Unfortunate for you that may be, but it's just how I roll.
AVox, is there anything you want me to say? I'm just pretty much going to be /prod-dodging until a hammer now as I've nothing more to contribute.Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.- AurorusVox
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It has been 48 hours, so it is time I dodged a prod. Being replaced at this stage in the game would be something intolerable.
I don't think there is much I could say that I haven't already. The only reason I'm being suspected for that is my doing seems to be my level of activity. It is a null tell, as I've tried to show, and it seems to have been largely ignored. The rest of the case on me is being painted black by Jilynne. I can see that, and I can't deny it.
If there are any further questions anyone wants to ask me, fire away.- imaginality
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I too am voicing my presence lest our host presume me to be slumbering. While his refreshments and beverages are exquisite, I am less enamoured of the so-called 'hearty jape' of his whereby he prods idle guests with a poker from the fireside.
No more questions from me, but equally happy to answer any.- AurorusVox
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Perfect timing, gentleman. [/sarcasm]
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