Goofbash Invitational (Game Over)

[Kise]

Reck play Borderlands with me.

[xRECKONERx]

No one is showing how Nik can be town. What's the hold up with this lynch?

Reck I'm paranoid now.

bro nobody is showing how nik can be skum either
fyi i only have borderlands for steam/pc not 360 sorry

[tanstalas]

Haha, I wish, but I can't put someone on the scum list if I don't think they are scum.

Why not? Your list has me on it, so it definitely isn't accurate to any degree.

[tanstalas]

Reck claims he can read Dram. Dram lurks, Reck says he can't get a read because Dram isn't posting.

If Dram was town, you would think he would post more so Reck could confirm him as town.

Unvote:
Vote: Dramonic

[DrippingGoofball]

En garde.*

A l'assaut!

[DrippingGoofball]

Reck claims he can read Dram. Dram lurks, Reck says he can't get a read because Dram isn't posting.

If Dram was town, you would think he would post more so Reck could confirm him as town.

Unvote:
Vote: Dramonic

WOW

MOAR AWSUM

VOTE: Dramonic

[xRECKONERx]

Gut says dram is town and I don't want him being a D1 mislynch due to me.

[tanstalas]

Gut says dram is town and I don't want him being a D1 mislynch due to me.

Why would it be due to you? He can get on and start posting. If he is a mislynch it is due to him. Why the guilty conscience?

[xRECKONERx]

Because I can unquestionably say if he's town or not i fhe gives morae information and I can't do that if he's lynched so I'll feel responsible

I have never let towndram get lynched without ia fight

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm surprised CES and TBM are not all over me.

Our hydra shall be named...Cherry Breaker.

[Nikanor]

Why are people unvoting Fate? We actually had a decent wagon on him for a second and then POOF.
Come on DGB; tans. This dram stuff is not going to happen today. Good things come to those who vote Fate.

[xRECKONERx]

Nik have I ever played with you?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I'm surprised CES and TBM are not all over me.

Our hydra shall be named...Cherry Breaker.

The VC doesn't allow for a ABRvote.

[chamber]

CES what do you currently think of vitamin?

[VitaminR]

Haha, I wish, but I can't put someone on the scum list if I don't think they are scum.

K, you're scum.

Reck wins, I'm town. But thank you for playing!

[VitaminR]

Reck claims he can read Dram. Dram lurks, Reck says he can't get a read because Dram isn't posting.

If Dram was town, you would think he would post more so Reck could confirm him as town.

Unvote:
Vote: Dramonic

This is pretty terrible. See why I think you could be scum?

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

CES what do you currently think of vitamin?

He feels like a #3 suspect.

[dramonic]

Reck claims he can read Dram. Dram lurks, Reck says he can't get a read because Dram isn't posting.

If Dram was town, you would think he would post more so Reck could confirm him as town.

Unvote:
Vote: Dramonic

That's a good one. You'd think that would apply if I were generally active on site but not in this thread. Alas, it is not so.
Doesn't mean I'm not planning to post more today (like I haven't said that already <_<;)

[xRECKONERx]

Dram, are you town?

[Nikanor]

Nik have I ever played with you?

Only like a bajillion times. Why?

[Patrick]

Votecount

TheButtonmen (2) -- Blackberry, VitaminR
Fate (4) -- dramonic, Nikanor, Albert B. Rampage, SensFan
Nikanor (5) -- CokeDeity, Kise, Fate, TheButtonmen, Cogito Ergo Sum
Sensfan (1) -- Irish Carbomb
dramonic (2) -- tanstalas, DrippingGoofball

Not voting: Minineko, Mina/Katsuki
16 alive, 9 to lynch.

[xRECKONERx]

I don't remember ever playing with you so I can't decide what I think of your playstyle here.

[Nikanor]

Just ask Faraday.
I think that Motown was our first game together and Directional was the most recent.

[Setael]

SensFan is scum. ABR doesn't really agree with me, but he's wrong so I'm voting anyway.

vote: SensFan

He starts the game voting Mina/Katsuki because he caught them in the neighbor QT. He then backs off taking credit and says it was the 3rd neighbor. His response to Mina is off where he defends with the fact that he was scum a lot at goofbash, as though that would matter at all here. He then insists on keeping the identity of head #3 secret when if he REALLY believed Mina/Katsuki were scum, obviously scum would already have this information.

For the record, I didn't start with that assumption. I told Mina/Katsuki that they were the D1 lynch, and that it sucked to be them. Mina and I exchanged words, and then #3 showed up. She called Mina Scum for her interactions with me, and because I was obvtown and there had to be Scum in the group. I agreed with the assessment, and Mina got pissed and tried to call me out based on the particular way I phrased some of my early posts; just like she did in the thread afterwards.

So here's how it went down: SensFan made a joke off the bat that Mina would be the D1 lynch. Based on the resulting exchange, Fate read Mina as scum and Sens as town. Sens opportunistically sheeped Fate's read even though he had no basis for thinking there had to be scum in the group.

Yeah, about that. Fate's the one telling the truth about what happened in the QT, not Mina.

He accuses Mina of lying here, and it's not clear what the lie is. Now that all is said and done this just looks like SensFan trying to fuel the fire under the Mina wagon.

Unclear. I don't know how much I can say without going into detail, but my PM is much more shades-of-grey than either of what Mina/Fate are claiming with regards to the presence of Scum.

If this is true, why did you mindlessly agree with Fate's assumption that one of you had to be scum?

Also, Mina is being completely full of it when she says that I'm sheeping Fate onto her wagon, since the VERY FIRST POST OF THE QT is me saying that Fate and I should lynch Mina/Katsuki.

Based on everything posted in thread (and the fact that it was the VERY FIRST POST OF THE QT), this was clearly a joke [later partially admitted by Sens]. It's incredibly scummy that SensFan tried to use that as proof that he was not sheeping Fate, but rather was the first one to suspect her.

Yes, we were told that Scum will get a copy of the Town Neighbour PM. But that doesn't change the fact that Mina is misrepresenting what happened in the QT. Admittedly, I don't see what incentive she has to do that as Scum, but there you have it.

And here Sens weakens his justification for his own read, and yet it evidently has no result.

Chamber presses him about his reason for originally voting Mina and he says he didn't like her reactions in the QT. Never fully explains this.

SensFan then blatantly defends Fate for several posts and is clearly confident he's town. He then leaves for awhile and comes back saying he plans to sheep Fate but within a few posts he is convinced Fate is scum and yells at Fate for telling him what to do. He then votes Fate as soon as a wagon starts up.

None of this do I see SensTown doing. Weird, baseless reads (both town and scum), faulty logic, immediate switches on firm reads. He clearly thought Mina was town since he was trying to keep the identity of #3 safe. I do think there's scum in that neighbor circle, and it's SensFan.

@Fate: Sens said you called him obvtown in your neighbor QT. What made him so obvtown? You then called him town for not going along with your lie. (This doesn't make sense to me since SensScum would know FateTown was obvgambiting but anyway.) Your hard town read on him then flipped to a scum read in 537 and the only thing I'm seeing that changed it is Sens said he was suspicious of you. Was there more to it than that?

Umm, no? The way Sens came out pushing Mina on Fate's instructions doesn't read at all like Sensscum to me.

Elaborate, por favor. I struggle to see how you can find that whole episode at all townie.

I have strong town reads on Kise, DGB, Blackberry and Mina/Katsuki. Leaning scum on TBM and tanstalas but I've only had time to ISO Sens after my initial quick read. Null on everyone else.

[xRECKONERx]

null!?

You're NULL on me/Faraday after the shit that went down?