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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:22 pm

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vezokpiraka wrote:WTF?

I play with a friend that is very good at this game.

Last game he was 12-1.
I was 4-3-14.

Like every match I finish I have like a tons of assist and nearly no kills.


A lot of heros don't go for kills, if you're not a carry then you don't need lots of kills.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:43 am

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MrZepher wrote:Today was a good day for Premade scum teams in LoL.

Also, I randomly started playing really well with Ezreal. I like him, he's fun.

I was ready to start crushing with Poppy, I could feel it. Oh wellz, win is a win.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:46 am

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MrZepher wrote:Today was a good day for Premade scum teams in LoL.

Also, I randomly started playing really well with Ezreal. I like him, he's fun.


Yes. Anti Cait ult at its finest.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:03 am

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Espeonage wrote:
MrZepher wrote:Today was a good day for Premade scum teams in LoL.

Also, I randomly started playing really well with Ezreal. I like him, he's fun.


Yes. Anti Cait ult at its finest.

YES.
Jumping in front of Cait's Ult to save each other was SO MUCH WIN.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:53 am

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Buttonman, your Nidalee needed the blue buff, not you. Nidalee is always number 1 priority when it comes to blue buff late game and I have no idea why your team thought it would be a good idea to give the monkey it.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:09 am

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Junpei wrote:Buttonman, your Nidalee needed the blue buff, not you. Nidalee is always number 1 priority when it comes to blue buff late game and I have no idea why your team thought it would be a good idea to give the monkey it.

There are 2 blue buffs that are just as accessible late game if you're winning.
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Junpei wrote:Buttonman, your Nidalee needed the blue buff, not you. Nidalee is always number 1 priority when it comes to blue buff late game and I have no idea why your team thought it would be a good idea to give the monkey it.


I had their blue most of the time, we had complete map control and were farming their buffs from their jungle or their bodies.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:50 am

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YES! Another convert to the Church of the Tree.


O, I have been a follower for quite some time now. He's by far my best champ. I kill shit with Maokai.
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:43 am

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Junpei wrote:Buttonman, your Nidalee needed the blue buff, not you. Nidalee is always number 1 priority when it comes to blue buff late game and I have no idea why your team thought it would be a good idea to give the monkey it.


I had their blue most of the time, we had complete map control and were farming their buffs from their jungle or their bodies.


2nd priority is Kassadin.

Look at your nidalee, lucidity boots instead of merc treads(the norm for nidalee). I wonder why she did that?
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:34 am

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Junpei wrote:Buttonman, your Nidalee needed the blue buff, not you. Nidalee is always number 1 priority when it comes to blue buff late game and I have no idea why your team thought it would be a good idea to give the monkey it.


I had their blue most of the time, we had complete map control and were farming their buffs from their jungle or their bodies.


2nd priority is Kassadin.


Kind of hard to make sure he lands the killing blow?

And Nid had our blue buff pretty much everytime it was up?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:29 am

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Junpei's just going to keep insisting that you're wrong regardless of how right you were to make the decisions you made.
or something like that....
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:49 am

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Zepher I'm just stating what was optimal given team comp of both sides.

Kassadin casting a spell to last hit the blue is fine. If you are building your boots around the chance of acciedently stealing blue from Kass then that's a bit silly isn't it?
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:58 am

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Junpei wrote:Zepher I'm just stating what was optimal given team comp of both sides.

Kassadin casting a spell to last hit the blue is fine. If you are building your boots around the chance of acciedently stealing blue from Kass then that's a bit silly isn't it?


....Not lasting the blue, that's goddamn easy I mean on the enemy hero with blue, we're level 30's with over 600 games played we know the basics.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:59 am

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If the nidalee had max cd reduc, which she probably should have if she had boots of lucidity and cd runes (Which you want to run on her), then blue buff goes to kassadin.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:01 am

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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:05 am

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You're saying that the enemy champion had blue and that it's hard to give kassadin the last hit on him? I thought you told me you had full map control and were taking their blues at spawn?

If the nidalee had flat cdr runes, they had a little under 6% CDR from that. Then they get 15% from Lucidity, and then blue buff gives you an extra 20%. So Nidalee would still want the blue buff.

You wouldn't have blue buff during the fight, only after, so planning your boots for that is silly.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:13 am

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Junpei wrote:...

You're saying that the enemy champion had blue and that it's hard to give kassadin the last hit on him?


Yes?

He had no survivability, Kass can't wait in fights, he ults in with 5-6 stacks, spews, null spheres then ults over a wall before he can get shredded, he can't stand around waiting for an opportunity to make sure that null sphere will get a kill.

I mean if it's clean up then yes Kass can just run anyone down and kill them but if it's the main fight then no you can't guarentee he's going to end up getting the kill.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:18 am

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You really didn't respond to most of my post. You took that completely out of context.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:18 am

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Junpei comes off as a prat in this conversation tbh.

Like, you have no idea what was going on in that game. Maybe nidalee rushed lucidity boots straight away? Maybe the kassadin was playing horribly, never with team when they were taking blue, feeding when he did get it (his score was hardly stellar)? He also had an archangel staff, so the whole "need blue to ult six times in succession" thing is not so bad anyway. I mean, I have no doubt you're a better player than most of the people in this thread (elo doesn't lie) but like, you're just looking at a score screen and going "YOUR BOOTS ARE WRONG". Reducing the slows is also really important for melee dps and they had one of the strongest in the game in karthus wall.

I dont either, as I wasn't in the game, but at best it's a marginal choice. He's probably already pushing the harder of the soft caps in movespeed making further movespeed cost inefficient.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:38 am

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Shanba wrote:Junpei comes off as a prat in this conversation tbh.

Like, you have no idea what was going on in that game. Maybe nidalee rushed lucidity boots straight away? Maybe the kassadin was playing horribly, never with team when they were taking blue, feeding when he did get it (his score was hardly stellar)? He also had an archangel staff, so the whole "need blue to ult six times in succession" thing is not so bad anyway. I mean, I have no doubt you're a better player than most of the people in this thread (elo doesn't lie) but like, you're just looking at a score screen and going "YOUR BOOTS ARE WRONG". Reducing the slows is also really important for melee dps and they had one of the strongest in the game in karthus wall.

I dont either, as I wasn't in the game, but at best it's a marginal choice. He's probably already pushing the harder of the soft caps in movespeed making further movespeed cost inefficient.


I'm honestly just trying to help...

Nidalee's boots are fine, I think it was good choice on her part.

If Kassadin was doing that bad he would have said something about it by now.

MK was already extremely fast, he said as much. I'm pretty sure he had Flash and if so then he could even risk to flash in and ult with his team right behind him. MK's ult has a nice CC element to it which is great for initiation. As such I don't think that Kayle/Karthus would be able to slow him effectively at all. The burst of Kassadin and Teemos' hard deeps are more important than MK in that team.

Once again, I'm not saying you're bad, I'm just trying to help you out. It's just that when you play against highly aware people you have to be able to analyze the situation and theorycraft in your head and anticipate what is most likely going to happen so that you are geared up correctly.

I'll stop coming in here and pointing these things out now though since it clearly just comes off as me trying to say "haha i'm betr than u". My apologies.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:52 am

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Junpei wrote:...

You're saying that the enemy champion had blue and that it's hard to give kassadin the last hit on him? I thought you told me you had full map control and were taking their blues at spawn?

If the nidalee had flat cdr runes, they had a little under 6% CDR from that. Then they get 15% from Lucidity, and then blue buff gives you an extra 20%. So Nidalee would still want the blue buff.

You wouldn't have blue buff during the fight, only after, so planning your boots for that is silly.


You forgot masteries, and as nid you go 9/0/21
EDIT-She would ahve been a good 5-10 percent off the cap, in which it's her responsibility to grab a blue elixir.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:56 am

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8% from masteries isn't it?

So that gives the nidalee about 12.3% more she can take. Hmm, I would still give it to the nidalee though over MK, Kassadin is second priority though so I can see why you would give to Kass... That's a good point though. You're topping off with extra cdr, but the thing is that Nidalee needs the mana regen too so she can spam heal/poke without OOMing, so in the end I think it still goes to nidalee.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:59 am

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Honestly, I was pretty cool with Junpei until this conversation, now he's just being a bit of a twat.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:17 am

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Panzerjager wrote:Honestly, I was pretty cool with Junpei until this conversation, now he's just being a bit of a twat.


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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:37 am

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So not to cause a shitstorm, but any HoN players in this thread?
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I play all three, and they're all good games, but I am bad at Dota and don't play LoL enough to say I'm good. HoN I'm pretty good at.

I'd be down to play any of the games though. Any vent or mumble servers that you're all in?
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