Execution Mafia: Days of the Cold War GAMEOVER

[jasonT1981]

I am voting Vezo for executioner, MOI has stated he does not want it today.

[SleepyKrew]

He has stated he will follow himself and not the town. Not the same as not wanting to be Executioner.
And if you don't want him to be DayE, then why is Night any different?

[jasonT1981]

I trust his scum hunting abilities in the night, I don' trust Quilford. besides we aint voting yet for night are we? my mind could change by then. I think with MOI making the kill, we have a better chance of hitting scum than if Quil does it.

[SleepyKrew]

And jason just became scummy.
If you aren't voting MoI because you think he doesn't want to be executioner, then nothing changes in the night.

[jasonT1981]

no, right now Vezo and MOI are the only two people I am trusting right now to have the role. MOI does not want it in the day, fair enough. If Vezo has it in the day, then I will support MOI having it in the night. I will in no way support Quilford in the role.

I trust MOI and his scum hunting to make a decision based on who he thinks is scum and think we have a good chance to hit scum with MOI taking the shot in the night. i am not sure if the same person can be nominated both in day and night.

@Mod: Can the executioner be the same person in day and night?

[SleepyKrew]

jason, IT DOESNT MATTER IF MOI GETS IT IN DAY OR NIGHT

[jasonT1981]

Who else would you suggest? MOI and Vezo are the only ones I see worthy of getting the role right now. If one gets it in day, I will give it to the other one in night. Make sense?

[SleepyKrew]

Except you said that you aren't voting MoI because you think he doesn't want it. YOU FLAILING?

[MagnaofIllusion]

A NOTE FOR DAYS GOING FORWARD

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In case I die before Day 2 starts … the following

WILL

be the procedure to start out the Day each morning.

Before anyone claims the Night execution or any ability results (aka Cop Guilties unless only 1 scum remains) everyone should claim who they voted for as Night Executioner. When that is done said person can claim whether they actually were the Executioner or not. This makes sure scum commit to a ‘vote’ before the Executioner is revealed.

If you have any issues with this speak up now. I’ll direct you to Cyclical Experiment X01 if you have issues with me laying out a plan in this manner.

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I stand by the null read on you. But I really want to see what you'll do as Executioner.

I see … so you are planning on using it as “scum-hunting” to determine my alignment? Interesting.

I just realized I just agreed the elect a scumread and a nullread. Thank God the game doesn't end after D1.
PEDIT: Nah, I still think you're scum. Shoot who you want.

You would be willing to just hand away control of the Daykill to someone you think is scum? That’s completely stupid. Why in the hell would you do that (if you were Town looking at the game from a Town perspective)?

implosion

1. Hey you know what’s great? Reasons why he’s scum!
2. When did vezok stop being obv-scum to you? I’d like to know.

Except you said that you aren't voting MoI because you think he doesn't want it. YOU FLAILING?

Pop quiz – if Jason is supporting the same Day Executioner that I am how is that scummy? I’ve already said I would happily support the process of letting the Day Executioner follow Town’s guidance if I am NOT said Executioner.

Also … why throw in extraneous Wiki-tells (YOU FLAILING)?

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Why do you ask?

Because I’m trying to determine if I can justify voting for you to be the Executioner.

If I’m not going to vote for myself I’m most likely going to vote for someone who is likely to listen to the crowd at large. Vezok and Zang have both said they will do so. I want to see who else does.

You can stow the sarcasm when responding to me. It doesn't give you 'Cute Obv-Town' credit in my book. I'm not Fate.

cool so here are everyone's top scum reads as far as I can tell:

Please update my Top scum reads (not in order, but I would happily see any of them killed) to the following if you do another list –

SleepyKrew – read my ISO
Captain – I think his direct Misrep of Vezok and ‘fail-Meta’ on Sleepy are fairly strong scum-tells for such little content.
Cod – took a very bad stance on Vezok’s “Contradictions” and his reactions to being questioned didn’t ring Town.

As a side-note: I doubt that Cod and Sleepy are scum together based on the early buddying interactions Cod made towards Sleepy.

Outside of this group Havingfitz, whoever replaces Kondi, and to a lesser extent ChaosOmega need more content. It difficult to get a read when people aren’t providing reads.

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But couldn't a scum executioner hit scum purposefully so that he would be elected as executioner again and because he would then be assumed as town?

If scum wanted to bus and do so ‘without’ Town input Day 1 just to get the Night 1 election and in hopes of getting Town cred so much the better. Scum bussing is a trend that IMO increases Town’s chances of winning any individual game.

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Pros:
-we learn more about the executioner's alignment by who they execute and why

-if the executioner is town, we have a guaranteed 100% town-motivated kill.

Maybe. The thing is, the scum don't need to be the executioner. In fact, it's probably better for the scum to elect a town executioner who will screw up and kill other town.

I’m having a very hard time reconciling the bolded in the first quote with the second quote. Both these quotes came from the same post. Explain please!

[havingfitz]

A NOTE FOR DAYS GOING FORWARD

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In case I die before Day 2 starts …

the following

WILL

be the procedure to start out the Day each morning

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You are annoyingly pretentious. You don't think enough of the people you play with to follow their opinion/wishes if you were to be elected executioner but you have no problem doling out instructions "in case" you die before Day 2 start.

VOTE: vezokpiraka for the moment based on his willingness to abide by the majority opinion.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You are annoyingly pretentious. You don't think enough of the people you play with to follow their opinion/wishes if you were to be elected executioner but you have no problem doling out instructions "in case" you die before Day 2 start.

Oh how quaint. So NO OTHER INPUT? Like who is scum.

Nice.

@Quil

- Throw having on my "Would like to see Executed list" if you are updating that list still.

[havingfitz]

You are annoyingly pretentious. You don't think enough of the people you play with to follow their opinion/wishes if you were to be elected executioner but you have no problem doling out instructions "in case" you die before Day 2 start.

Oh how quaint. So NO OTHER INPUT? Like who is scum.

Nice.

@Quil

- Throw having on my "Would like to see Executed list" if you are updating that list still.

yer goooood.

[SleepyKrew]

Do you disagree with using the Execution as scumhunting?
Quil's gonna kill Cod, I think Cod is scum, so meh.
I've given my reasons on implosion before.
vezok could still easily be scum, but I realized that town vezok isn't much different from scum vezok, so I'll have to re-read and whatnot.
Seriously MoI, let the person I directed my question at answer them.
I like buzzwords.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Do you disagree with using the Execution as scumhunting?
Seriously MoI, let the person I directed my question at answer them.
I like buzzwords.

1. No, I don't offhand disagree. I can see scum motivations for doing so but also Town so its a Null point for me.
2. Nah. I like calling you on horrible posting. Get used to it.
3. Liking buzzwords while not using them in any sort of effective or appropriate manner isn't Town. Just letting you know.

Do you think Quil, as Scum, would execute scum-Partner Cod if elected?

If not which is more likely to be scum?
If so what drugs are you taking? I want some.

Also, what do you think of our low performers (Chaos and having)?

[SleepyKrew]

By not addressing my other points, I take it you're fine with them?

2. Maybe it's a reactiontesting gambit MoI.

Maybe...

3. You are correct, I do it as any alignment. I don't see how they hurt?
4. He kind of has to now.
5. turbo-bushrooms
6. They need to do more. I can't tell if having's interaction with you was in jest or not.

[Zang]

This is what we call sarcasm

So then would you or would you not kill who the town decides?

Zang – Cod

I never said that Cod was my top scum read.

What do we do if Cod flips town?
I say elect MoI and let him reign free with the kill.

What if Cod is scum?
I say elect MoI and let him reign free with the kill.

3rd Party?
MoI

I'm fine with this plan.

So by the same logic, is magna scum?

Magna used it for a reason for why he shouldn't be elected executioner, Quilford used it as a reason for why he should be.

Cons:
-mafia can influence the vote

Only as much as they do in a normal mafia game and they can't influence it nearly as much as they can if scum is elected as executioner.

-we learn more about the executioner's alignment by who they execute and why
-if the executioner is town, we have a guaranteed 100% town-motivated kill.

But anything we learn about the executioner's alignment is just WIFOM and just because it is 100% town motivated, it doesn't make it any more likely that he would hit scum as if the majority was allowed to decide.

At least, this is the list I can think of right now. I honestly think the pros of the second plan outweigh the pros of the first plan.

To me though, the cons of the second plan outweigh the cons of the first plan.

Because I want to see MoI's scumhunting, and I want to see his kill. Thought if we do end up electing MoI like I want, I'm going to be appealing for my life to him.

So you're willing to let Magna kill you just to see who he would kill?

He has stated he will follow himself and not the town. Not the same as not wanting to be Executioner

No, he stated that he didn't want to be Executioner because he wouldn't follow the town.

Quil's gonna kill Cod, I think Cod is scum, so meh.

But you also think he is scum. Why would he volunteer to kill Cod if they were both scum?

Vote: Vezokpiraka

He said that he would pick who the town decides, I think he might be town and I'm not willing to trust Quilford to be the executioner.

[SleepyKrew]

Zang
No, I'm not willing to let Magna kill me, which is why I said I'm going to appeal like fuck to him.
He stated he didn't want to be Executioner IF he had to follow the town. I'm fine with him not, so I'm fine with him being executioner.
They could be scum on different factions, or it could be a bus. Ever heard of it?

Now, a couple things for you.
Town consensus is mainly Cod. Quil also wants Cod dead. So what's wrong with electing Quil? If he kills someone other than Cod, then LaL his ass.
Also, you're fine with electing Magna at night, even though according to you he doesn't want to be elected? And you want the executioner to listen to town consensus, when Magna doesn't want to? BUZZWORD

[Quilford]

I don't care who gets elected so long as they kill Cod.

VOTE: vezokpiraka

[Quilford]

That puts vezok at E-1, I think.

[SleepyKrew]

Can I hammar?

[jasonT1981]

Why would you even need to ask? seems like your trying to make you actions look pro town by trying to get approval from town, and truthfully just makes you look scummier.

[mallowgeno]

no, right now Vezo and MOI are the only two people I am trusting right now to have the role. MOI does not want it in the day, fair enough. If Vezo has it in the day, then I will support MOI having it in the night. I will in no way support Quilford in the role.

I trust MOI and his scum hunting to make a decision based on who he thinks is scum and think we have a good chance to hit scum with MOI taking the shot in the night. i am not sure if the same person can be nominated both in day and night.

@Mod: Can the executioner be the same person in day and night?

Yes. VC coming up

[mallowgeno]

VC 1.4

Quilford (4)-ChaosOmega, implosion, fatlikepig, SleepyKrew

vezokpiraka (6)-MagnaofIllusion, vezokpiraka, jasonT1981, havingfitz, Zang, Quilford

Haven't Voted (3)-
Codfish
kondi2424
Captain Corporal

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to elect an executioner!

Deadline is August 15th!

Prodding CO

[SleepyKrew]

Why would you even need to ask? seems like your trying to make you actions look pro town by trying to get approval from town, and truthfully just makes you look scummier.

Because I didn't want to cut off discussion too soon. But now I realize that Day continues until vezok posts the kill.
So vezok, let discussion finish before killing Cod, etc.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: vezok

[mallowgeno]

VC 1.5

Quilford (3)-ChaosOmega, implosion, fatlikepig

vezokpiraka (7)-MagnaofIllusion, vezokpiraka, jasonT1981, havingfitz, Zang, Quilford, SleepyKrew

Haven't Voted (3)-
Codfish
kondi2424
Captain Corporal

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to elect an executioner!

Deadline is August 15th!

Many years ago, there was a village that had been overrun by witches. This became known as Witch Creek. There was a bloodbath of towns folk killing and mistaking each other for witches. No one had dare travel there until...

during the cold war, some people overheard that there were secret plans somewhere within Witch Creek that had been left there and could help turn the war against the Soviets. The government sent 13 braves souls to face this old town. However, some became twisted and turned a sickly green color at night. Witch Creek was a cursed town...

The crowd cheered for

Vezok

to be the town's executioner to find the traitors changed into witches and slay them. Who would they choose...?