Mystery Box Mafia - Game Over

[Gammagooey]

Scum on both of them. I said that.

Preetty sure you didn't. And if they're both scum reads then why didn't you list them with your junox+moi+spy+dana instead of waiting for me to ask about them? Or give anything for why you think they're scum?

[Empking]

Scum on both of them. I said that.

Preetty sure you didn't.

Well I did.

And if they're both scum reads then why didn't you list them with your junox+moi+spy+dana instead of waiting for me to ask about them? Or give anything for why you think they're scum?

Because they're not strong reads and I have no reasons.

[Gammagooey]

Scum on both of them. I said that.

Preetty sure you didn't.

Well I did.

QUOTE DAT SHIT.
And don't tell me that you saying that you think one of them is scum is calling both of them that, because saying that you think one is scum Kiiind of implies that the other is town.

[SpyreX]

In no way shape or form would I expect anyone sans mafia to say they're obvtown. No way.

[Gammagooey]

Although admittedly Emp it probably isn't going to make me want to noose you any less considering we just had this entire stupid exchange based on me saying it's easy for you as scum to have nullish reads on them and you ending it with "Because they're not strong reads"

@Spy- I'm fairly sure Junox is town, so nyah. You want the abridged version or can you wait for the reads list either later tonight/tomorrow if I get sidetracked with parties?

[Empking]

@dana- It was originally a pressure vote and I forgot Sath existed- I really don't like most of the content he's given since then though. Giving no individual thoughts for inhims/Lobster and just grouping them together as "one scum here" when I think that they're the two of easiest players to have nullish reads

What do you mean by easiest?

I mean that they haven't done anything incredibly pro or anti-town and aren't receiving a lot of attention so it's pretty easy for a scumbag to say they have a null read on them despite them both having plenty of posts to go through

and get SOME kind of read on them, even if it's not a particularly strong one.

Looks like a contradiction to me. I change my mind. You're the third scum.

[Empking]

In no way shape or form would I expect anyone sans mafia to say they're obvtown. No way.

Why?

[Gammagooey]

It's super cool of you to call me scum instead of just quoting where you called them both scum like I asked you to.
*<//:3

[Empking]

Gamma: Scummy side of null.

[Gammagooey]

You're still not quoting where you called inhims and Lobster both scuuuuuuuum

[Empking]

Gamma:

Scummy side of null.

I never said I called them both said. I said I had a scum read on both of them.

[Gammagooey]

Gamma:

Scummy side of null.

I never said I called them both said. I said I had a scum read on both of them.

Scum on both of them. I said that.

Preetty sure you didn't.

Well I did.

[Gammagooey]

AND FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES

Looks like a contradiction to me.

I change my mind.

You're the

third

scum.

[Empking]

Are you trying to claim that there's no difference between calling someone scum and saying you've got a scum read on them?

Where's the contradiction?

[Gammagooey]

I said that.

I never said I called them both

[Empking]

I said that.

I never said I called them both

"I said X" "I never said Y" Not seeing the contradiction.

[Gammagooey]

If X=Y contradiction.
X=

Scum on both of them.

I said that.

Y=

I never said

I called them both scum

X DOES equal Y.
weeeeeeeeeee.

So since I intend to spend most of the rest of the night getting drunk I'm just gonna post my reads before I go-since Empking decided to come in and dispute the meanings of words instead of actually trying to get reads on other players some of these are the abridged version but dealwithit. If you have questions then ask 'em or forever be mildly puzzled.


Dese Reeds

Junox is town. The gambit with trying to get a read on Neruz by faking the investigation even though it would be clear to some people it was fake was very very likely to come from town because Neruz Hasn't been paying attention to the game and there was a decent chance of getting a reaction from him that would help with reading him. And if they were scum they could have just not revealed that they had a vig at all and shot strong townies for the rest of the game. Claiming the vig is not a good idea for scums.

Dana is a weak read but he's leaning town- his thoughts in regards to Rikana and DeathNote yesterday were very similar to mine and I can see why he thinks Lobster in particular is scum now.

Lobster is my biggest scumread after Empking due primarily to xvart interactions.

Neruz's recent play is garbage but looks like he was legitimately trying earlier on- Some of you probably think that using that as an alignment tell is dumb but I still have a slight town read on him from it so whatever. Assuming Empking is scum (a pretty amazing assumption) he Might be scum with Emp with Emp just continuing to push on his partner for mediocre reasons after the fake investigations so he doesn't look bad later in the game for backing down but I wouldn't lynch him tomorrow, there are more likely scum than him.

Spy looks like Spy-town with his Yami stuff on day 1

inhims looks fairly town with his responses to DeathNote+VCA today

MoI is iffy but I wouldn't lynch him tommorrow assuming Emp-scum, I really do need to read over him again soon though.

Sath's replacement needs a full-on interrogation, preferably with him trying to use words with as few vowels as possible. Make him be useful and give an opinion on everything so he can be readable and if he doesn't do it string him up.

Emp is a scumbag and you should hammer him. THAT MEANS YOU SOLDIER.

[Empking]

If X=Y contradiction.
X=

Scum on both of them.

I said that.

Y=

I never said

I called them both scum

X DOES equal Y.

No.

weeeeeeeeeee.

So since I intend to spend most of the rest of the night getting drunk I'm just gonna post my reads before I go-since Empking decided to come in and dispute the meanings of words

No.

[Gammagooey]

YES.
YOU STATED THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD A SCUM READ ON BOTH OF THEM
YOU NEVER FUCKING SAID THAT.

AND NOW YOU'RE ALSO SAYING THAT YOU NEVER STATED THAT YOU HAD A SCUM READ ON BOTH OF THEM.
WHICH DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR STATEMENT OF SAYING THAT.

AND FOR THE FIRST STATEMENT
YOU
STILL
HAVEN'T
QUOTED
WHERE
YOU
SAID
IT.

[Empking]

Gamma:

Scummy side of null.

[Empking]

I have a scum read on both of them (as the quote illustrates). I do not think they're both scum.

There's no contradiction and everything was on the table and I think you know that.

[Neruz]

Wow Empking, just wow.

I was going to respond about your nonsensical claim that i was 'padding my ISO' by getting confused over Junox, but the last page or so between you and Gammagooey appears to prove that even when blatantly and obviously caught in a straight-up contradiction\lie, you continue to deny it, so i'm not going to bother trying to argue with you anymore.

Empking is scum guys, lynch him.

[Empking]

Wow Empking, just wow.

I was going to respond about your nonsensical claim that i was 'padding my ISO' by getting confused over Junox, but the last page or so between you and Gammagooey appears to prove that even when blatantly and obviously caught in a straight-up contradiction\lie, you continue to deny it, so i'm not going to bother trying to argue with you anymore.

When did I contradict myself?

[Neruz]

You've already had this conversation with Gamma, refer to posts 1414, 1416 and 1418.

[danakillsu]

Well, I kinda feel like hammering Empking, but I'm trying to resist the urge and give him one last chance to prove he's not scum. I've seen too many scumslips from townies lately to trust one blatant contradiction to tell me everything I need to know about a player.