New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[Kcdaspot]

BEST OF ALL

Haters gonna hate

This was in response to suspecion. no question why? no scumhunting? no ANYTHING?

nope. "OH LOOK PPL SUSPECT ME LOLHATERSGONNAHATE"

This is not a town slot.

This is not policy.

This is not a drill.

He hangs.

Let's go.

[Kcdaspot]

I left this window open in another tab while I farted around on YouTube.

So you're gonna ignore my unvote then?

vote: Oversoul

Scum vote, guys.


Scum vote.

shhhh...

if this rings true let em bus.

we get scum either way.

[Vifam]

1. Empking - Town
2. Kcdaspot - Scum, not liking your posts until about 2 pages ago
3. Estyn - Town
4. Xeras - Null
5. Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24) - Town
6. mastin2 - Town
7. Vifam - Null leaning town, still don't like that argument between you and Johhog though
8. BomberMan - Null leaning scum
9. Fool_Hardy - Null leaning town
10. David Xanatos - Scum, don't like you not answering questions
11. Oversoul - Null leaning town, self voting doesn't sit well with me though, don't know why you would do that.
14. LordChronos - Null
15. Johhog - Town, don't like that argument between you and vifam though
16. LTP Mafia - Null
17. Secret Project (evilpacman18 + MrBump) - Scum
20. redFF - Null leaning town

Ommitted people haven't posted yet, i skim read the last 6 pages or so, may have missed a post by them.

Does anybody else think these kinda posts are scummy as hell? I mean it's just getting a list of all the players, saying town about players who are considered pro-town at the time by the thread and scum about players considered scummy at the time by the thread. And then null leaning x about players who haven't really been looked at by anyone. If you gave reasons for reads then maybe but these posts just set off alarms in my head.

My only problem is he hasn't even taking the time to vote even ONE of his scumreads.


It's like he doesn't even want to lynch scum and just wants to impress town with lists.

[Johhog]

Bomberman is a failwagon
UNVOTE: OversoulVOTE: Secret Project
Let's do this.

[redFF]

CONSIDER ME UNIMPRESSED

Also
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Oversoul That vote on himself and claiming that's a town tell and then unvoting was ridiculous, plus he isn't even adressing cases against him. Still want David to answer the questions tho.

[Vifam]

All these fucking counterwagons.

Someone do a manual vote count.

[Johhog]

You fools, stop voting Oversoul. We'll deal with him later, let's bandwagon Secret Project recklessly instead.

[Johhog]

All these fucking counterwagons.

Someone do a manual vote count.

I won't, but this brings up an interesting question:

Where the hell is CMAR?

Which brings up another interesting question:

Where the hell is sorasgoof?

[Foolish Fool]

I'm not sold on Oversoul being scum, this Appeal to Emotion that Kcda keeps banging on about seems to have only one example, and it does look to me like he's scumhunting as well, the accusation of active lurking is silly.

[Johhog]

EVERYONE VOTE SECRET PROJECT.

BANDWAGON CHOO CHOO.

[Vifam]

I'd be a lot happier with Bomberman or Est.


Est's lists are unnecessary, most of his reads that are "null" go without saying, and it seems like he cares more about looking like he's contributing then ACTUALLY catching scum.

[Foolish Fool]

The Foolish Vote Count

Oversoul

(4): Kcdaspot, mastin2, Bomberman, redFF

Secret Project

(2): Lord Chronos, Johhog

Bomberman

(2): Oversoul, Vifam

David Xanatos

(1): Empking

Mastin2

(1): David Xanatos

Not Voting: Estyn, Fool_Hardy, Foolish Fool, LTP Mafia, Secret Project, Xeras
Not Posted Yet: donkwich, MintKitten, whiTE_Teaz
Being Replaced: lewarcher82

[Xeras]

I am here again.

UNVOTE:

Can't believe it took a self vote on myself for you all to realize that I'm not scum.

KC/Bomberman, what questions do I have to answer?

Heh. No. Tell me the pro town reasons to self vote? There are none. If this was a Newb game, then I might dismiss it. But I am quite sure everyone in this game has had at least a decent amount of experience.

I have played (or researched) a few games. In those for games there were four self votes.

In the first instance.

This game was fairly inactive. A member of the mafia self voted to prolong the game. The mafia still won, due to general inactivity.

In the second instance.

I self voted. It was my first (well technically second) game. I self voted, because I was certain that scum would go for the easy lynch. Soon as someone voted for me, the town lynched that person. Turned out to be a confused townie. I was town, and I basically was the sole reason for that mislynch.

In the third instance.

This person got pissed off because I was hot on his trail. I think he did it to take a slot for a townie not to vote for him though.

In the fourth instance.

Actually, I guess this could slightly be pro town, but it still supports my direction. In this case the self voter was a vanilla townie. But... he had a 'sibling' who was mafia. So, he self voted to get rid of that mafia member.

So in closing, Oversoul's self vote was either an attempt to clear his name, or out of being inexperienced. But as I said, I am quite sure everyone has had at least a bit of experience.

VOTE: Oversoul

[Empking]

Unvote, Vote: SP

[Xeras]

Unvote, Vote: SP

I am not sure if I missed it, but why are you voting for Secret Project?

[Johhog]

Because SP is scum.

Bandwagon choo choo.

[Xeras]

Because SP is scum.

Bandwagon choo choo.

And why is he scum?

It looks more like mindless bandwagoning.

[Johhog]

ISO him or something then, and you shall be enlightened.

[Vifam]

That Vote Count just established that most of the town is disorganized.


The votes are very wide spread and it's hard to discern which scum are on which wagon.

[Johhog]

...so let's vote SP, or let's at least focus on one wagon.

[Empking]

Unvote, Vote: SP

I am not sure if I missed it, but why are you voting for Secret Project?

Rolefishing.

[LordChronos]

Specifically, this post (SP's ISO 6, #227):

VT...

Stating your reads on each person and joke claiming are completely different things, i don't see the connection

1. Joke claiming? So you're NOT a VT?
2. I think the point was that claiming gives scum more useful NK information than stating reads.

[Kcdaspot]

Unvote, Vote: SP

I am not sure if I missed it, but why are you voting for Secret Project?

Rolefishing.

wat

[Secret Project]

Specifically, this post (SP's ISO 6, #227):

VT...

Stating your reads on each person and joke claiming are completely different things, i don't see the connection

1. Joke claiming? So you're NOT a VT?
2. I think the point was that claiming gives scum more useful NK information than stating reads.

What is your opinion on my posts since then? There have been several and you've tunneled a single post of mine in the last like 3 or 4 posts from you that I've noticed. Do me a favor: Rearrange this list of names in a random order (I've arranged them in numerical order according to the OP). Don't think about it, just do it.

kcdaspot
mastin
Bomberman
David Xanatos
White_Teaz
lewarcher
redFF

Also, tell me what exactly you feel is scummy about that post. Why are you seeing it as "rolefishing" instead of scumhunting? And tell me specifically what is scummy about rolefishing?

Nobody answer for him.

I like Oversoul scum better than I did last time.

I'm tempted to have myself and marill go back to just black because the different colors creates a schism between the two of us that the point of a hydra is to eliminate. We're supposed to be one, schizophrenic person. Not two different people (that it's very easy to have two different reads on) posting on one account.

Mastin: still want an answer and also, why can't we be Soben? Or rather we can be us and Foolish Fool can be Soben.

[mastin2]

why can't we be Soben?

'Cause you asked.

That's why.