Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[FourseenCircumstance]

I did not pay any attention to his mafiascum.net birthday. I am just saying based on his play.

[Ray Montano]

It is all in the plans.

Okay great. Noted.

[Silver1337]

Oh, crap. I was so immersed in the new Mario Kart Wii ultra glitch shortcut for the past couple days that I forgot about this website. lol
Will reread. I've pretty much not gone on any forums besides MKWii ones, so it's not just this one, lol.

[Hiraki]

Actually you never did explain how this chart works, but since mikehart and ray are bolded I'll assume those are scum reads. But that also means bobsnox is one of your scum reads here which is no longer accurate, correct? After #400 posts you want me to believe none of these opinions have changed, that your scum reads haven't changed? The ONLY two I know are still strong for you are MikeHart and Ray.

Because at the moment, they are the two that need to die.

The other bolds aren't as bad, but they're scum. I didn't think I needed to explain it either.

Yes, it was quite clear you believed that Ray was scum. It was also clear that your initial reasoning for MikeHart scum was alright, but at #600 posts in it was pretty damn weak and you did nothing to pressure him to provide more content. You pressured Ray a hell of a lot more and yet kept your vote on MikeHart until 400 posts later. 400 posts passed with your vote meaning absolutely nothing because you never acted on the scum read you had your vote on. And you didn't switch to Ray because...no one was supporting his wagon? You are not going to lynch your scum picks by waiting for wagons to magically form on them (Ray) or by putting your vote on them and then applying no freaking pressure (MikeHart).

Either were scum. This is how I work my votes. If you don't agree with it or see it as being productive then that's your idea. My idea? Pressure doesn't come from voting, it comes from words and the support of other people rather than the one upholds the first vote.

Kendall was attracting a lot of attention toDay, and had a lot of supporters as well as critics. Had she stuck around for the rest of the Day she may have been lynched, or there were calls for her to be vigged. As scum, putting yourself up for the next lynch if she flipped town would have been smart because she was likely to be a policy lynch/vig bait, and a town flip would look really good for you. This is why I didn't like it, because Kendall was so obvious, and your call to defend her was so obvious and disgusting. It was unnecessary

But this is assuming Kendall would flip town. If she flipped scum, and I was scum it wouldn't look bad at all.

Calling someone a town read and then flipping scum is bad, but only

after

the person flips scum. This works with town the opposite way, but it only works after the said player flips.

Before that, the only thing you can see is buddying relationships.

You don't KNOW he's town. So it's still a fucking gambit to keep your strongest town read alive, or if you are scum and kendall is town to look really good upon kendall's flip. And I'm not just going to take your word that you can read newbies soooo well that you are THAT confident. Again, it was NOT needed.

Did you just say it was a gambit to keep my strongest town read alive?

Why does it seem like you're going overboard with WIFOM that I know how mystical powers I can use to kill people with, aka scum. You don't know I'm scum either, so stop acting like it.

Don't take my word for it?

Here we go.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 50&t=16915

That was the only explanation for your vote on MikeHart for 400 posts and it is a weak reason. Bogre saw this and asked about it and this was your response:

To be fair, I thought you were talking about yourself.

My reasoning stands for Mike because he's still barely posted anything since then.

Actually we are a July/Ran hydra. This is July

Aww.

I should feel bad.

But I don't.

oh well.

[mb53]

@ mod

Sorry, I have to replace out. I simply can't play mafia when I am only home for 12 hours a day. And when this week is over, I won't feel like catching up on a weeks posting

Sorry =( I really wanted to play this game.

[Beefster]

DonJosh

(10)- NanookTheWolf, SodaSpirit17, mikehart, Rainbowdash, SpyreX, jmurph3, diddin, FourseenCirumstance, chkflip, inHimshallibe

I am disappoint. This town is full of sheep.

Will respond to FA's post shortly.

[Ray Montano]

The other bolds aren't as bad, but they're scum.

This is stupid.

[Hiraki]

The other bolds aren't as bad, but they're scum.

This is stupid.

Funny.

[SpyreX]

D1 in less than 40 pages could be a reality.

YOU TOO COULD BE A BAD ENOUGH DUDE

[Rainbowdash]

DonJosh

(10)- NanookTheWolf, SodaSpirit17, mikehart, Rainbowdash, SpyreX, jmurph3, diddin, FourseenCirumstance, chkflip, inHimshallibe

I am disappoint. This

town

is full of sheep.

So you are calling the entire wagon town essentially?

Ponies being willing to listen stop the game from going around and around and around



and around

and around

and around

[glowball]

MOD: I need a replacement, sorry

[Ray Montano]

Funny.

Not funny. You're going to be awful for town players in this game.

[Beefster]

@RD: No. Don't twist my words. I was clearly using town as a general term, referring to the full player list.
Stop trying to end the day early. We need discussion to find scum.

@Flavour:
I was originally doing a rebuttal. But then it hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm an idiot.
-My case isn't going anywhere; I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.
-Thanks for actually posting a case. Perhaps your questioning really was only a phase of your play.
-I'm wrong about you. I let my play preferences get in the way of real scumhunting.
-The nature of your defenses suggests town alignment. I should stop nitpicking.
-This seriously changes A LOT [of other reads], which I realize.
-I just realized defense by denial isn't a tell. I thought it was at work, though. It's played differently anyway.
-I'm being an idiot.
-If it's at all possible to confirm both of our alignments [as town], we could make a killer scumhunting team by attacking from two angles.

HOLY CRAP, I HATE MAKING 180s. But that just happened.
G'head. Vote me. I deserve it after that move right there.

I still don't like the Donjosh wagon. Too much sheeping going on...
How about a RainbowDash wagon?

unvote

VOTE: RainbowDash

(I should have done this several posts ago)

@Ray: Nice find: a wishy-washy statement from Hiraki. Or a miscommunication. We'll see.

[Hiraki]

Funny.

Not funny. You're going to be awful

for town players

in this game.

Slip.

And nice job responding to everything.

[bobsnox]

Ray is so scum let's do this already. I know some of you guys suspect him. join the wagon. it's the cool thing to do.

[bobsnox]

hiraki that's not a slip - it's a statement only scum make but it's not a slip

[Ray Montano]

Explain how its a slip Hiraki. A slip would be stating "You're going to be awful for THE town players in the game".

[Hiraki]

@Ray: Nice find: a wishy-washy statement from Hiraki. Or a miscommunication. We'll see.

How is this wishy-washy.

I can target every person on that list and show why they're scum.

At the moment though, I'm interested in Ray and Mike.

If interest piqued on one of the other peeps, I'd be cool with that too.

hiraki that's not a slip - it's a statement only scum make but it's not a slip

He said "for town players" denoting that he's not a town player.

why are you be so hateful.

[Ray Montano]

That's not a statement that would exclude myself. This is why you're going to be harmful. You don't have common sense or deductive reasoning.

[Hiraki]

Replace me

I can't stand one more fucking second of this piece of shit downtalking me.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Yes, it's butthurt, but I can't plausibly stay in this game.

Sorry for the major inconvenience again, but I'm really just not having fun in this game due to obvious player.

[bobsnox]

hiraki - he could be town and say it but town wouldn't phrase it so pointedly. it's overstated, really

[Ray Montano]

lol That was probably the whiniest, most spineless thing I've seen in all my time on this site.

[Hiraki]

lol That was probably the whiniest, most spineless thing I've seen in all my time on this site.

This is why you have XX alts.

I'm done here.

[FourseenCircumstance]

DAMNIT I HATE BEING CALLED OUT IN PUBLIC LIKE THIS GUYS IF WE DON"T DO AS I SAY I WILL PERSONALLY KILL EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU at night