Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[Rainbowdash]

So then what's the issue? I'm voting Umbrage, you're voting Umbrage, what's the problem? Its ridiculous that you would attack a player and then refuse to respond to their defense. Especially when its not an unreasonable, OMGUSy, piss-poor reaction defense. So either you can't defend your attack because its crap and you know it, or you're attempting to backtrack on it because its raising attention you did not want.

You want a response? Fine.

You are antagonizing Hiraki in a way that is most likely intentional. Yes that is putting the hoof over the line in the sand. I would always be fine lynching or vigging someone I see as slightly scummy that is detracting from an optimal game state through personality.

I am not saying we should policy lynch you due to being able to get reads on others, its because you are around my #5 scum pick right now. Connections are an added benifit of the situation. Interesting way to try and defuse this attack though, saying you are a good lynch and jumping to trying to defend connections instead of play.

You miss the point of the last question too. I like my read on Hiraki and he actually helps my reads of others, which is why I wanted him to stay, to keep those reads going strong.

And hey, im an attention whore. I mean, it is RAINBOW dash, that kinda sticks out at you.

@Umbrage - Don't flatter yourself.

@FA - Umbrage is scum for previously mentioned reasons. Comptent player replacing into the DJ spot just means we lynch him now instead of later.

[Flavour Analysis]

Fourseen, why did you switch?

[glowball]

Fourseen, why did you switch?

Yes. I too am interested in this explanation...

Also, you worry me but Umbrage still needs death and I believe that's 9 votes? So 4 from lynch.

[Ray Montano]

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: Umbrage.

For the record Umbrage is not even close to the top of my scumreads, but at this point I just want this day to end

so damn badly

. I would also consider a lynch on Fourseen, since his whole random "What do people think of me" post seems incredibly bizarre, ill-timed, and scummy as all get out.

So basically if Umbrage flips scum you're not to blame because you didn't suspect him.

@Rainbow Really? I suggest you go back and see who called the other a "blundering idiot", myself or Hiraki. My tone towards Hiraki was dismissive at worst, Hiraki's was offensive at best. You have either not read the game closely enough or are twisting history to benefit your case on me. And I wouldn't be so quick to state I'm "defusing this attack" because really you haven't offered an attack that's comprehensible enough for me to defuse. There's nothing you've stated over than the three points that I've dissected to lead to me being your #5 scum pick.

And if that's really what you meant by your third point...then there's really nothing I've got to say about that other than I don't think its genuine.

[glowball]

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: Umbrage.

For the record Umbrage is not even close to the top of my scumreads, but at this point I just want this day to end

so damn badly

. I would also consider a lynch on Fourseen, since his whole random "What do people think of me" post seems incredibly bizarre, ill-timed, and scummy as all get out.

So basically if Umbrage flips scum you're not to blame because you didn't suspect him.

Not that I disagree with that point on jmurph but whether Umbrage flips town or scum, people will be screaming either way. There are very few people who were FOR this lynch and a lot of people who fought to derail it. I feel like half the wagon as done some distancing at some point....so those who fought it and then later joined will be suspect and those who never joined will be suspect. It's about being genuine.

And I am so ready for this flip...come on more votes.

[Ray Montano]

Oh I know its just amusing. Classic jmurph. Glad to see she hasn't changed *rolls eyes*.

[petroleumjelly]

I’m still in the process of reading, but I am at page 15 and I

already

know who I want to vote, as well as who I want to vote after that player dies. Looking over the pages since I’ve replaced in, I am

quite

happy to see the Umbrage wagon, because that is exactly where my vote is going.

Vote: Umbrage

FoS: Beefster

As of page 15, I already have three reasons for voting Umbrage. I will be interested to see exactly what happened with Umbrage from then up until now, because unless Umbrage is seriously wagoned in the interim, I find it interesting that it took me replacing in before the votes started crumbling off of DonJosh (that guy I replaced) and onto a

good

target.

1.)

Umbrage speculated about two scum groups in Post 287. I find these comments generally come from scum. Seriously, Umbrage should have been wagoned immediately after this post.

2.)

I did not like her comment to Ray Montano in Post 328, about how Hiraki volunteering himself is not really “lining up lynches.” Hard to explain, but it feels off. I have a hard time seeing a Townsperson writing it. This is a minor point.

3.)

But

most

of all (at least for me -- and yes, this is even considering her two scum teams speculation), I absolutely

do not

buy her attack on k e n d a l l. And this the post that sours me the most is Post 350.

Umbrage outright accuses k e n d a l l of “pretending to be eager” while “really just OMGUSing.” I honestly do not think Umbrage believes what she is typing. This entire post feels like she is saying what Umbrage feels forced to say because of the position she has put herself in so she can keep her vote on k e n d a l l. This post is just ringing "BULL" to my ears. To top it off, Umbrage then immediately gets caught forgetting her scumread on bobsnox. This lady is scum.

~

Also, Beefster is totally scum. His “worry” about being caught on page 1 is only a very minor point against him, but what convinces me he is scum is Post 322. Seriously, everybody needs to go back and read this post.

->

a.)

First, Beefster claims to be giving out scum points, and yet it really seems to me that Beefster has contrived his “catch-up” solely so he can vote for k e n d a l l, who is (surprise surprise) the leading wagon at the time (and for bad reasons).

Literally

, k e n d a l l is the

only

player he gives “scum points” to

at all

. I don’t believe a Townsperson would write that post for a second.

->

b.)

Second, Beefster gives k e n d a l l “newbtown points” for things he simultaneously gives her “scum points” for the exact same thing. WHAT? If something makes a player newbtown, you cannot then turn around and give them scumpoints. The whole point about “newbtown” mistakes are that they are things likely done by newer players who are town, and therefore are not deserving of scumpoints.

->

c.)

This is a really minor point, but Beefster apparently decided to stop reading the thread despite being only three pages from finishing. Given that he made two short posts directly before his longer post I’m linking to, I don’t see why he wouldn’t have read the game first, and

then

decided to make a longer post. [By the way, I totally get to do this because I still have like 30 pages to read, and there’s no way it’s gonna happen tonight unless I go into Insomniac Mode.]

~

I also have like

seven

Town reads so far. Won’t be sharing those, though.

P-Edit: Apparently Umbrage is male. Retroactively change "she" stuff to "he" stuff.

[Rainbowdash]

Oh yes. Remember what I said about no quicklynching? It still holds true.

I know given all I have said it might sound wierd to return to this, but I want, neigh (lol), need to see a couple peoples reactions to this since it loops back to the couple ponies I was talking about where Umbrage-scum makes them nearly confirmed town. It may extend further than just them, so want the chance for them to prove it without me knowing who they are. Im guessing im good to go in about 24 hours.

[Scott Brosius]

Vote Count 1-17

Beefster

(1)- Bogre,

bobsnox

(0)-

Bogre

(0)-

chkflip

(0)-

diddin

(0)-

Flavour Analysis

(0)-

FourseenCircumstance

(0)-

glowball

(0)-

hiraki

(0)-

inHimshallibe

(0)-

jmurph3

(0)-

mikehart

(0)-

NanookTheWolf

(0)-

OpposedForce

(0)-

PeregrineV

(0)-

petroleumjelly

(3)- NanookTheWolf, mikehart, inHimshallibe,

Rainbowdash

(2)- Beefster, Umbrage,

Ray Montano

(2)- bobsnox, hiraki,

Silver1337

(0)-

SnakeSide

(0)-

SodaSpirit17

(0)-

SpyreX

(0)-

TheJakalope

(2)- Flavour Analysis, chkflip,

Umbrage (10)- Ray Montano, PeregrineV, glowball, diddin, Rainbowdash, SpyreX, SnakeSide, jmurph3, FourseenCirumstance, petroleumjelly,

Not Voting (4)- Silver1337, TheJakalope, Opposed Force, SodaSpirit17,


With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch. Deadline is August 18th at 1pm EST

Replacing Hiraki and OpposedForce

[TheJakalope]

Besides Petro's quick summary, would anyone else mind explaining the Umbrage wagon? I want to be caught up on something I can be useful in.

[TheJakalope]

ISO on Umbrage

My system
T3 - Strong Town Tell
T2 - Moderate Town Tell
T1 - Small Town Tell
N - Neutral
S1 - Small Scum Tell
S2 - Moderate Scum Tell
S3 - Strong Scum Tell

#21 and #39 - RVS and RQS - N
#146 - Wants to lynch kendall for "trying to be Alpha Dog". An alpha dog can be very useful to the town especially with a game of this size. - S2
#169 - Claims that only scum care about buddying. Seems to be looking for any reason to put suspicion on others. - S1
#196 - Claims that his "Laying Low" is actually minimalism. Only scum wants to stay out of the spotlight. More about buddying. - S1
#227 - Filler - N
#287 - Still strongly pushing a kendall lynch, when (and yes I read through kendall's posts) kendall hasn't done anything very scummy. Nothing super useful either though. - S1
#328 - Mostly stuff I can't comment on without reading the entire thread, but seems to automatically assume that rainbow has knowledge from the thread. There are are sources of information. - N/S1
#350 - Still pushing the kendall lynch, trying to make a case out of very little. -S2
#364 - More back and forth with rainbow. Makes a little bit of sense but throws it all away by saying that only scum gets Paranoid day 1. No matter if you are playing scum or town, day 1, you are VERY cautious day 1, because one misworded post, and everyone will assume you are scum. - S2
#366 - Nothing - N

I skimmed the rest but didn't feel a need to comment on every post because I already know how I feel about this. Kendall is noobtown, who needs to contribute more rather then explaining why he is Mafia, and Umbrage is scum.

VOTE: Umbrage

[petroleumjelly]

To whoever asked, I am fairly active. I try to average at least one post a day. I guess insomnia hit me, because I ended up reading the entire game. I didn't feel like I could put it down once I hit about page 25 or so.

1.)

Blah, wish I had forced myself to finish reading before posting. I’m going to

temporarily retract my FoS on Beefster

, as there have actually been a good deal of posts that I’ve liked from him since page 15. This isn't to say I agree with what he's been saying, but he is feeling Townish.

Still, I

very much

want to see an explanation for Post 322. Why did all of your scumpoints go to kendall? Why did you simultaneously give her “newbtown” points along with “scumpoints”?

2.)

But Umbrage is still scum. Add glowball’s Post 648 for reasons to lynch Umbrage. I guess it slipped by me on my read, but I agree Umbrage looks like she was genuinely trying to deflect there.

Also, Umbrage’s posts since page 15 have pretty much all been set into “snipe” mode. Umbrage does not actually look like she is

scumhunting

at all; she just pops in to make fun of the wagon on her, as if acting confident with no reason to be confident will get the wagon off of her. She technically starts to look more opinionated in the later pages of the game, but I think it was after somebody pointed out that Umbrage wasn't really doing anything proactive.

3.)

Most likely scum who joined the DonJosh wagon are Bogre and mikehart. I am really not digging either of their votes. I can kinda understand the votes on DonJosh

to a point

- he was rather clearly unable to keep up with the game given its pace. But these two votes in particular do not look sincere.

Note: I will have to look at the kendall wagon again later, but I remember actually thinking the main pushers on kendall (save for Umbrage) actually looked fairly Town. Too tired to look into it right now, though.

4.)

That said, I am quite surprised DonJosh got

so

close to a lynch in the middle of the game (I am not talking about the Rainbowdash push here). Given the wagon on me upon replacing in, I was truly expecting I had replaced into a real fixer-upper of a spot. But now that I’ve read the game, I can’t say I agree with the enormity of the wagon on him.

I can understand why somebody might want to pressure-vote DonJosh. But it is quite clear to me that DonJosh simply did not make time for this game. This isn't an attitude I condone, but it certainly is not scummy. I think he honestly tried to catch up (given his reads he posted before being replaced), but he clearly was not up to the task. He was an easy wagon who was pretty much guaranteed to not defend himself because he couldn't keep up with the pace of the game. As a result, I am not surprised at how quickly his wagon has fallen apart once a competent player (me) replaces him.

So.

To everybody who voted DonJosh, I would like you to post your case against him.

As an added bonus, if you had a question for DonJosh that you would like to ask him, I will answer it myself. Because frankly, I am quite confident I can defend absolutely everything DonJosh has done. The wagon on DonJosh was almost as dumb as the kendall wagon. I can understand why there was pressure to begin with on those players, but I fail to understand why either wagon grew as large as they ended up growing. The wagon on kendall was an antagonistic wagon on a player who did not conform to mafiascum expectations, while the wagon on DonJosh was a lazy wagon on a lazy player.

Also, just to be clear: this request is

not

directed to the votes on DonJosh after Rainbowdash decreed a DonJosh lynch. I want reasons for the DonJosh votes that came in the middle of the game.

~

Unvote: Umbrage

to prevent quicklynchage.

[SodaSpirit17]

Welp. Umbrage if I were you I'd claim.

[SodaSpirit17]

Sorry I derped. You're -3. Not -1.

However, I don't want quicklynchage to happen either, yet I want to vote Umbra because he's been defending DonJosh and DonJosh has been defending Umbra but now Petro was willing to vote for Umbra and I think he'd be willing to again.

[jmurph3]

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: Umbrage.

For the record Umbrage is not even close to the top of my scumreads, but at this point I just want this day to end

so damn badly

. I would also consider a lynch on Fourseen, since his whole random "What do people think of me" post seems incredibly bizarre, ill-timed, and scummy as all get out.

So basically if Umbrage flips scum you're not to blame because you didn't suspect him.

Um...no? Pretty much the opposite, actually. More like I'm not to blame if he flips

town

, but as I said in my post here, I'm willing to lynch whomever majority of the town agrees on because I very much don't want us driving ourselves apart any more than we already have.

Also,

Oh I know its just amusing. Classic jmurph. Glad to see she hasn't changed *rolls eyes*.

Have we played together in the past?

[Umbrage]

BWAHAHAHA

I'm really going to enjoy the endgame gloating. Stupid town, am I the only living human being who knows how to scumhunt?

[Umbrage]

Oh, I'll do an ISO on Rainbowdash so I can honestly say I tried to win this game. Don't worry, I'll use small words. Then you can have your little sheep circlejerk and lynch me, OK?

[TheJakalope]

No need to get hostile, Umbrage.

[inHimshallibe]

HOORAY UMBRAGEWAGON.

vote: Umbrage

@PJ: I voted you because :lolsheepmywaythroughD1:.

[Umbrage]

Ok everypony, a few of you had made this game very difficult to read since you post way to much filler, actually just one of you but the same problem exists.

Very first line of her very first post. It'll get very ironic as we go deeper.

Being aggressive is not, nor has it ever been a scumtell but a playstyle tell. The fact that he is pushing this as a tell is in itself a tell. He continues to miss the fact that you actually need someone to push pace of a game too, or it has no direction and stalls out early. The game needs someone to take reigns, its better if that person is town, but I would rather be replacing into a game that scum did this then one where everyone sat around twiddling their hooves.

All of this is false. Rainbow's asking you to sheep here, and she openly states that she doesn't care whether or not scum have control of the game, she'll sheep the leader regardless. This is a backdoor if she gets accused of sheeping in the future.

Also, newbie aggressiveness in a large game is a scumtell. I'm not going over this again. It's a scumtell, and Rainbow is using a strawman.

This one is argueably a scumslip even, as he is already assuming that we have two teams when I see nothing in the flavor that suggests a multi-scum setup. I would even say this is more likely a single scum faction setup for reasons that I do not wish to disclose at this point but will become obvious as the game progresses.

Claiming scum knowledge = claiming scum. She should've been lynched right after this post.

Nope, null tell. Town and scum both love to take controll of a game because it plays to their wincondition. Kendall is pretty off compared to most people, but that type of aggressiveness induced meltdown is probably town.

Again: strawman.

I feel as if im being ignored, others should be commenting on Umbrage at the very least here if not wagoning him.

Rainbow has a drive to be in the centre of attention. This is the cause of the juvenile pony puns and pictures she spams. If she can make people like her, they won't lynch her. Here, she's upset because nobody's paying attention to her wagon.

it's very odd that you refuse to answer questions. are you hiding something?

I'm not going to answer stupid questions like "Who is scum". If I think I've found scum I'm going to push on them but I'm not going to push scum reads that I only half-ass believe in.

Without giving us anything though you are removing everyponies ability to be able to get reads on you and other based off what you are saying. The game requires ponies to actually throw out theories and give suspicions, even if they are not a sure thing because that kicks off other theories, and that makes for other cases and soforth. When somepony refuses to give any suspicions, they are going to actively hurt the rest of the town.

If you had to vote *somepony* right now, who would it be. Things along the lines of "I don't know" are not acceptable answers to this question. It's not who do you expect to be voting at the end of the day, but who is your current and subject to change highest scum read.

Hopefully a third active pony here can help in finally dismanteling the kendall wagon.

Defending kendall. Getting Ray and others to sheep by saying 'vote now' even if they don't know who to vote.

If you have never seen someone react like that how are you using it as a tell?

I see that reaction as more likely town than scum and have explain why. If you are trying to counter this you better be bringing more to the table than that weak stuff, no reasoning and no past experience? Try again. Paranoia is a town tell

when applied correctly,

no pony, ever, has gone through a game as town without feeling some paranoia over a player agreeing with them, or second guessing their vote, or anything along those lines.

Bolded bits are WIFOM.

There actually is something suggesting single scum faction due to balance ease, and I am not pointing it out yet. Assuming non-standard in multi-scum is not only something that allows scum to introduce suspicion of players to the game as you already are here saying that we should still lynch people who arent partners to a first player.

HEHEHEHEHHEHEHHHEEE

WHEN DID I SAY WE SHOULD LYNCH BOBSNOX?????

THINK FAST SCUM.

Here

Bobsnox is also scum, but I doubt he's on the same team as kendall.

Think faster scum.

Rainbow clearly isn't even reading the thread. I doubt her logic skills are that poor, so I'm forced to assume that she's not as concerned with scumhunting as she is with the appearance of scumhunting.

You are acting like its the best tell you have though.

Strawman.

Oh no, im just mocking the fact that you have suddenly switched to saying kendall is the SK because its the only reason newbie players would ever be that aggressive.

Strawman.

I get plenty paranoid throughout the entire game

but just keep it out of thread

so other ponies take more more seriously. Second guessing yourself and wondering why people are making the moves they are with relation to you is something anypony who is competent as town does, and deals with in their own way

Bolded is the flaw in her logic.

WOOSH point dodge! You still are entirely failing to give me refrences to this suddenly existant past game where you have seen this exact thing pan out before, and are failing to explain why its indicative of scum instead of town.

Strawman to cover her own screwup.

I always thought saying "Somepony is scum" means that you think they should be lynched.

Go back to whatever rock you crawled out from underneath.

Yay point proven for me! Its a playstyle thing not an alignment thing.

Strawman, and a really bad one at that, seeing as how the guy was scum and all...

he case on him hinges around his pushing of kendall on two weak points that he continues to fail backing up despite multiple requests (overagressive as scumtell and not liking people buddying) and his slip saying that this is a multi-faction scum game, which no mod post mentions.

Straw- wait, no, this is just plain lying.

Scum are always far more interested in finding a SK than town is. My wondering is why you are pushing SK specifically since its really impossible to get a 'must be' SK read on anyone, even if you are the best player ever.

Strawman.

Spent the last little bit trying to come up with a better response to the Spy post than the *brohoof* picutre I always use, but there isn't anything better.

Bullshit like this serves no purpose other than to try to make the thread unreadable.

We could brohoof and kill them in any order really, but I have an ego that wants to be fed and it wants Umbrage dead more due to a stronger read and punishment for mocking me. Not going to cry over DJ first, but I want Umbrage instead.

All we really need now is the rest of the alliance to show and wait for everypony else to just wagon along.

So, vote Umbrage because I say so, and wait for the rest of the town to mindlessly sheep. Any questions?

Lets go back to DJ then I like that.

Unvote, Vote: DonJosh

Seriously vig you better not be cheeky silver just asked for death AND Umbrage wants it too

Unvote
Vote: DonJosh

Logically this first may be somewhat better either way, but my gut still wants Umbrage.

OH WAIT NEVER MIND WHAT I JUST SAID CUZ WE GONNA LYNCH DONJOSH NOW GO SHEEP GO.

@diddin - We are not saying lynch him this page, although that would be *so awesome*, you don't go looking entirely elsewhere due to a possible flake.

AND WE'RE NOT GONNA QUICKLYNCH EVEN THOUGH I SECRETLY WANT A QUICKLYNCH.

Also I realized how much of my case revolved around there being multi-scum

But of course I'm still scummy for implying there are multi-scum.

You miss the post where someone daykilled him and he flipped LGM - Town? Please keep up with things better.

I still don't know what the fuck this is.

None of that should really change how you ponies judge me though, im a competent player and all of you ponies should treat me as such.

SHEEP ME SHEEP ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE SHEEP ME I'M A LONELY NERD AND I NEED THE ATTENTION!

I would be willing to shift back to Umbrage as he continues to preach the two scum faction arguement for no good reason here.

If I truly have no good reason, then why is it scummy? You say you have good reason, which strikes me as far more scummy.

Really debating moving back to Umbrage though since my town reads that have developed at this point support a multi-scum game, and if there are multiple scum, I can't for the life of me see Umbrage flipping town. Between his kendall pushing, slips saying its multiscum for apparently no reason, and even wagon composition makes me want to go back there. Logic though says other stuff. Need to think about it a little more.

Oh, so there is multi-scum, but I'm scummy because I suggested it before you did. And I've been pushing on kendall, who is confirmed town because you said so. OK, that makes total sense.

I have a very very very good reason asking for this which circles back to dual scum possibilities.

She has very very very good reason? Works for me! *sheep*

Hiraki - See problem there is that you crammed essentially an iso case of every post of his down our throats. That is a pain to read, and makes you look really biased (I know, me against Umbrage). I mean, he isn't a bad pick, but I like quite a few more at this point. Just tl;dr it for all of our sakes.

OMG HIRAKI U MADE A BIG POST, THAT'S BAD BECAUSE ONLY I AM ALLOWED TO SPAM THE THREAD. NOW I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO IGNORE EVERYTHING YOU SAID!

See thing is, im completely willing to give right now, and almost just want to say something along the lines of the following:

1 - Private lynch election between Me, Spy, glow, diddin, snake, inhim and Hiraki
2 - Whoever gets lynched there we all vote together
3 - Game once again unified
4 - I post more pony pictures
5 - Profit

Again, the message here is 'sheep me or I will fucking kill you'.

Ok. We are done. You are going to just run around in circle fine, im not going to take this sitting down though and if everypony is going to wait for a leader, I have no problem with taking the reigns and not only bringing everypony back together but also getting scum lynched.

We are lynching DonJosh. Period. End of story, cut print, wrap and send the letter on lessons learned about friendship (regarding how friends stick together to solve problems) to Princess Celestia.

After the initial ugly beyond reason post about kendall which he later backed off attributing to playstyle (lol?) not much happened there. There has never been a vote past then, or an attempt to scumhunt unless you say calling Umbrage and jmurph "Trying to hard to be town" is scumhunting. That and some of the early wagons on him are basically all town reads. Seven/Eight reads of at worse null on a player? Fire when ready.

No stances, no cases, no way town.

Spy, help me orginize here. We are taking this game back.

WE ARE LYNCHING DONJOSH BECAUSE I SAID SO AND I DON'T NEED ANY REASONING BECAUSE I CAN POST PONY PICTURES SO YOU MUST ALL BOW DOWN BEFORE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unvote
Vote DonJosh

Everypony needs to have that in their next post or a REALLY REALLY good reason not to.

How about you give us ANY reason to do so?

Umbrage is either getting vigged tonight or lynched tomorrow. DJ gets killed tonight simply for the fact that a single scum game means Umbrage is town, and if a flip shows one faction it means Umbrage is just Derpy Pony.

Move your vote. This game is being unified.

BUT DONT WORRY GUIZ CUZ I'VE GOT ALL THE FUTURE LYNCHES SET UP AND IF YOU DONT OBEY WE'LL FUCKING KILL YOU.

@Hiraki - Why is DJ town?

Again.

The case is that he's not supportive, so I last heard.

The case is stupid and/or weak.

I'm not sure if DJ is lurking because he's scum, or because he's getting perhaps 'lazy'.

Reread what I posted. DJ is the play for today.

NO!!!!!!! YOU MUST SHEEP ME!!!!!!!!!!!! THE POWER OF THE PONY COMPELS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ MY POST WHERE I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING I'M SAYING NOW: SHEEP ME ONTO THE DONJOSH WAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is a case on him, posted it a few isos ago. What parts do you disagree with? The game is split over a few wagons and its just stalling out at this point, and its time to push the game ahead. No one else is taking initiative so I am. Game on.

OK, seriously, what the fuck is this? This is some scary shit right here. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, hell any dictator I can think of said pretty much the same thing.

I could keep going, but there's really no point. It's the same fucking stuff again and again: sheep me, Umbrage is scum but not the lynch, DJ is the lynch even though I can't make a case on him, I'm a fucking humour genius because I can post pony pictures. Yada yada yada. Literally everything Rainbowdash has written is designed to try and take control of the town. She doesn't scumhunt, she takes a few points and repeats them again and again. If someone calls her out, she retreats behind humour. If anyone disagrees with her, she overreacts.

So save yourselves the embarrassment and lynch Rainbowdash. I know what you're thinking: if Rainbowdash is bad for getting people to sheep her, why am I getting you to sheep me? What's the difference?

I don't give a shit, that's the difference. I'm not campaigning for your affection, I don't care if you think I'm funny. I'm not interested in becoming town-super-leader. I don't think any townie would want that, we all distrust ourselves too much. So why is Rainbow trying to take control? I think you know the answer.

V/LA for about a week.

[inHimshallibe]

KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIRE


ALL WORDS NO CLAIM

[Umbrage]

Eh, might as well claim.

Bo Peep, Watcher

[inHimshallibe]

First thought is disbelief. Important role like that gonna claim before it gets to the eleventh hour on your lynch.

[inHimshallibe]

But of course, scum, hammer if you'd like to 1-for-1.

[Umbrage]

Obviously, an important role is going to avoid claiming until it's unavoidable, don't you know anything?

Oh wait, you're scum. Why am I talking to you?