Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[Scott Brosius]

Vote Count 1-18

Beefster

(1)- Bogre,

bobsnox

(0)-

Bogre

(0)-

chkflip

(0)-

diddin

(0)-

Flavour Analysis

(0)-

FourseenCircumstance

(0)-

glowball

(0)-

hiraki

(0)-

inHimshallibe

(0)-

jmurph3

(0)-

mikehart

(0)-

NanookTheWolf

(0)-

OpposedForce

(0)-

PeregrineV

(0)-

petroleumjelly

(2)- NanookTheWolf, mikehart,

Rainbowdash

(2)- Beefster, Umbrage,

Ray Montano

(2)- bobsnox, hiraki,

Silver1337

(0)-

SnakeSide

(0)-

SodaSpirit17

(0)-

SpyreX

(0)-

TheJakalope

(2)- Flavour Analysis, chkflip,

Umbrage (11)- Ray Montano, PeregrineV, glowball, diddin, Rainbowdash, SpyreX, SnakeSide, jmurph3, FourseenCirumstance, TheJakalope, inHimshallibe,

Not Voting (4)- Silver1337, Opposed Force, SodaSpirit17, petroleumjelly,


With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch. Deadline is August 18th at 1pm EST

Replacing Hiraki and OpposedForce

[PeregrineV]

Unvote.

@Umbrage- You may be right about Rainbow, but screaming loldumbasstownmislynchers!" doesn't help us either.

[Umbrage]

But it's fun.

[inHimshallibe]

You're not reading the same game I am. This game is dragging, and then comes huge momentum. You coulda been lynched without a claim given the attitude of the day. Don't think your role matches the manner in which you claimed.

[chkflip]

UNVOTE: TheJakalope - I like to give replacements a couple posts before I damn them to their slot.

Umbrage, if you're a badass townie... why aren't you acting like it?

inHim, how should he have claimed? Before L-1? Because that's generally frowned upon as well.

Peregrine, who are your top three suspects?

I'm reading Umbrage's ISO right now while I wait for replacements to post more content. Don't really have much else (worth mentioning) to say right now, still trying to catch up. This day has been pretty long even considering the amount of players. A lot of drivel and fluff in these pages, too. Do not like.

[NanookTheWolf]

Mod: When I asked about updating the player list, I was referring to adding PetroleumJelly and TheJakalope. It still reads Mb53 and DonJosh.

Bah I definitely changed it, I guess I never clicked submit. Fixed.

My vote for DonJosh originated as pressure. Don just flaked on questions asked at the time. He made promises to read the game and flaked. I don't like it when someone states, I'll post this great post and then just return to say ... You know what nevermind, I don't even know why I stated that.

I'm not going to jump on Umbrage as he's claimed BoPeep. I don't know if I support another player counter claiming this early in the game either just in case Umbrage is full of fluff.

Remember though that just because Umbrage has claimed watcher doesn't mean that she couldn't be a mafia goon/watcher. I don't want to meta game, but I see BoPeep as being a town player until something else hints otherwise.

Unvote: DonJosh/PetroleumJelly

[Ray Montano]

Um...no? Pretty much the opposite, actually. More like I'm not to blame if he flips

town

, but as I said in my post here, I'm willing to lynch whomever majority of the town agrees on because I very much don't want us driving ourselves apart any more than we already have.

Whoaaa yeah. My apologies. That's obviously what I meant to say. Not sure I agree with your strategy but letting it rest for now. And yes we have played together.

Unvote: Umbrage

I can see points on Rainbow but that was a crap ISO post in my opinion. Reading through a couple of players then I'll reapply my vote.

[PeregrineV]

@chk- I don't know. Bobsnox was one of my original three, and while the other two have done stuff to correct that opinion, bobsox not so much.

Vote: Bobsnox

Silver looks scummy merely for lurking, but the posts them selves seem townie or null.

I see Umbrage's point on Rainbow, but if that's the case Rainbow can provide more connections before his lynch, as he is pretty active. That's assuming he's even scum.

Will have to go back and re-read with replacements.......

[inHimshallibe]

UNVOTE: TheJakalope - I like to give replacements a couple posts before I damn them to their slot.

Umbrage, if you're a badass townie... why aren't you acting like it?

inHim, how should he have claimed? Before L-1? Because that's generally frowned upon as well.

Peregrine, who are your top three suspects?

I'm reading Umbrage's ISO right now while I wait for replacements to post more content. Don't really have much else (worth mentioning) to say right now, still trying to catch up. This day has been pretty long even considering the amount of players. A lot of drivel and fluff in these pages, too. Do not like.

It's more the lack of indignation. That smugness that the claim would save them.

Umbrage even said they couldn't wait for the Dead QT - not much confidence in that claim, but WAIT let's throw a fake out there for giggles.

[Ray Montano]

Beefster’s “system” for passing out scum/town ++ really aggravated me. It seemed like an easy out to plaster a vote on a case he didn’t really believe in because they’d racked up X amount of scum points. I think his case on kendall was crap and opportunistic. It also comes off as forced to me. An easy bandwagon vote and the constant piggybacking of other players’ opinions on kendall was scummy as hell. If kendall had somehow been lynched and flipped town its an easy out for beefster to point at X and X player because they were the ones who originally wrote his opinions. The constant whining to not push him hard because he’s busy bugs me. Its basically a plea to not apply pressure on him. I also don’t like his case on Flavour. Its really not based in anything concrete, just “start scumhunting”. Cases like that are always pushed by players who don’t have anything else to go off. And the opening he leaves to vote either Umbrage or glowball without really giving reasons on either is scummy.

I'm unsure about both Umbrage and glowball:
-Leaning scum on Umbrage
-Leaning scum (more) on glowball
-Likely of different factions.
-Not necessarily both scum.
-I'm fairly sure at least one of them is scum.
Sure it looks a bit wishy-washy, but isn't that the definition of "unsure?"

Until this:

Gut says Umbrage is town. Just look at the general nature of his posts.

Why is DonJosh bad, exactly? From the looks of it, it seems like his wagon is on him for lurking. (Which isn't a scumtell)

And then piggybacked on Hiraki’s reasoning for DJ being town, which is this gem.

Is that the new fad? He's lurking?

Give me a break. I've done that as scum and town.

It's called stress and "lol i anit dealing with this shit until i'm prodded"

I don’t find Beefster to be consistent. The flip-flopping and piggybacking and quick vote switches raise flags for me. The only thing I really find to be redeeming is his press on Rainbow. But even that is shoddy.

Vote: Beefster

[diddin]

well, shit.

unvote

More later.

[Ray Montano]

Well Rainbow, now that Umbrage has claimed I'd love to see your response to his claim and this please VVV

@Rainbow Really? I suggest you go back and see who called the other a "blundering idiot", myself or Hiraki. My tone towards Hiraki was dismissive at worst, Hiraki's was offensive at best. You have either not read the game closely enough or are twisting history to benefit your case on me. And I wouldn't be so quick to state I'm "defusing this attack" because really you haven't offered an attack that's comprehensible enough for me to defuse. There's nothing you've stated over than the three points that I've dissected to lead to me being your #5 scum pick.

And if that's really what you meant by your third point...then there's really nothing I've got to say about that other than I don't think its genuine.

[FourseenCircumstance]

Umbrage is not the watcher.

[farside22]

At work and don't know the password to snakeside.

I want Umbrage to claim flavor of that role considering Bo Peep = watcher makes no sense.

[chkflip]

Is that a counter-claim? I've played games off-site with more than one watcher.

Can anyone counter-claim Bo Peep?

I just can't believe that scum would even

attempt

to fake claim a character like one of Andy's toys. That's a big risk for no reward.

VOTE: Beefster

Seems like a solid case from Ray; we'll see where this goes.

PEDIT: She... watches sheep? O.o

[SodaSpirit17]

IDK I don't wanna flavor meta, but I don't think Bo Peep would be watcher.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote: Umbrage

1.)

Counterclaim of Watcher seals the deal. I doubt we would have two Watchers in this game (I believe chkflip mentioned an

offsite

game, which does not strike me as relevant on mafiascum), unless one of them is a scum Watcher. In which case, an Umbrage vote is still good.

2.)

However, I don't want quicklynchage to happen either, yet I want to vote Umbra because he's been defending DonJosh and DonJosh has been defending Umbra but now Petro was willing to vote for Umbra and I think he'd be willing to again.

Hey SodaSpirit17, DonJosh never defended Umbrage. Are you mixing DonJosh up with somebody else? Are you trying to connect me with Umbrage before we even know Umbrage's alignment? Please explain the

purpose

of you even typing up this statement. Why did you type it and press submit?

[SodaSpirit17]

Hi Petro!

IDK If DJ ever defending Umbra but I'm pretty sure Umbra defended DJ.

[Ray Montano]

I want Umbrage to claim flavor of that role considering Bo Peep = watcher makes no sense.

1. I don't see how that doesn't make sense?
2. But I am interested in Umbrage doing that.

Umbrage is not the watcher.

From a player who says nothing I don't know what to make of this.

[SodaSpirit17]

If anyones the watcher it's the binoculars guy. But Bo makes sense because she watches her sheep (yet she always loses them..)

[glowball]

Scratch that entire claim from Umbrage. I am Bo Peep, and I am NOT a watcher...

[SodaSpirit17]

Glow you are so obvtown, but if you want me to vote Umbrage you need to give a fullclaim.

If he flips watcher, guess who's going next? (But I doubt that's what happens)

[Flavour Analysis]

Soda, why are you just repeating what others say? Chkflip already said that.

Vote: SodaSpirit

Eww and rolefishing too?

Soda is fence sitty newb scum. He hasn't even given a reason as to why he had MB53 as town, instead would wait for his replacement. He then backpedals saying "I shouldn't have called him town" since I was pressuring him on it and he couldn't find a reason.

This guy can die.

[glowball]

Glow you are so obvtown, but if you want me to vote Umbrage you need to give a fullclaim.

If he flips watcher, guess who's going next? (But I doubt that's what happens)

Okay I am not at L-1 and think about what you are asking- will it benefit town or scum more? The point is you have Fourseen who has kind of soft claimed and I claimed his character name. Umbrage is obviously lying and if you think I am obvtown there is nothing more to say about it. I am not fully claiming because I am not countering any PR- I am countering the character name. Just you saying that throws up red flags for me, I really want to know how that will help town more than scum?

AND if he flips watcher, then he shouldn't have lied about his character claim, but I am not worried this just confirmed everything!

[SodaSpirit17]

You aren't at l-1. If we falsely lynch a watcher, that sucks, but it'd be pretty obv you'd be scum. As well as Four. but moreso you since you actually claimed it. Lynch Umbra he flips scum, perfect. If not we have two very big targets.